lindalove

Lack of respect for grammar, punctuation and spelling. If they get it wrong while making the effort it isn't so bad, but if they write something like:

"im just getting up at the momnt bcuase my sis has kiked me in the fase shes rille just so bludy anoying i cant stand her well newy must b going as iv got to make sum brekfst"

Now that isn't a particularly good example - the quality of spelling varies unrealistically - but I hope you see my point.


I also hate the fact that AIM has no function to send an IM to offline users. I'm sure there's some third party service, but come on.

People who get into stupid online arguments and instead of just taking the higher road, come back with "I don't care, it's only text!"

That fact that people log-off! I can't wait for the day that everyone embraces VoIP, and broadband in the US is almost 100% of households, and I can get in touch with anyone in the click of a mouse.

E-Petitions: When have these EVER worked?

Carno

My humor doesn't translate very well over the internet. People always think I'm a freak or a major asshole or something.

Oh, and bad grammar and poor spelling.

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alpha phi

I know exactly what you mean
(Not the asshole part....I think you are pretty cool )
I tend to rely on body language to express myself.
Words don't always do justice.
Emoticons do help a bit

What bothers me most are the shortened chat speak words,
that have more letters than the word they replace.

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jth

the fact that a young generation is learning now to spell words with numbers in them instead of letters. Made up internet words like powned or whatever... I think it is just completely flawed.

I personally hate emoticons. I turn them off generally. People customize their icons in MSN and forget that when they type in lol it turns into some strange animation that takes up half the screen. It grinds my gears big time. The new MSN have those Nudges and Flash card things, I swear I thought I was going to kill a few people before I found, gladly that you can disable them

Grammar, spelling. I mean, I'm not great at either. But I figure that if your main form of communication with people who aren't physically in the room with you is through MSN, ICQ or AIM, then you should learn to type with some sense of accuracy and with at least spelling in line with someone who at least attended high school.

Shorter words... I don't mind some of them which are practical. For example LOL or LMAO etc. But u instead of you, r instead of are... it's just lazy to me.

Tamerlain

I don't like the lack of emotion. Sometimes it's hard to convey what you're feeling with just words - it's the way you say them in person that really gets your message across.

-Tamerlain

feelgood

I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE POST OR CHAT IN ALL CAPS. IT MAKES ME THINK THAT THEY'RE SCREAMING OR SOMETHING.

I KNOW THERE ARE FEW TFPERS DOING THAT SORTS OF CRAP.

Suave

The fact that good internet communication with someone does not always translate to good verbal communication, and vice versa.

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ngdawg

I'm by nature a sarcastic person-that doesn't read well at all. Too many times I come off as angry.
My natural voice is nasally and a bit whiney(damned south jersey accent)-something said in person has a totally different meaning when in text.
Being 'ignored' in chat. You have no way of knowing if someone is there or not. I know I get up to get a cig or food or go to the bathroom, but I do try to say I'm not there(but guilty of getting sidetracked), but when coming in or leaving, I try to acknowledge everyone I see. That feels like it's not always the case when I come and go, but how would I know this?
Bad spelling. A major peeve.
Time lapse. Between my slow typing and the speed of a room, I can't contribute sometimes and I find myself deleting my remarks. Really bothers me when someone pm's and types like the wind and I'm two or three posts behind

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MexicanOnABike

especialy over msn, ppl just dissapear and go offline. to me, that's fucking rude. it's like hanging up on someone over the phone! please don't do that!

emotions too. i think i overused ever single smilies on msn to the point where they dont mean anything anymore.

Stiltzkin

Since I play a lot of Final Fantasy XI, I tend to use a different set of smileys:
^^
>.>
>_>
;_;
T_T
o.O
t('-'t)
._.
~.~
^0^

As far as gripes... well, grammar, grammar and, oh, did I mention grammar?

Min

Spelling and grammar are such major points of contention for me that I am well-known in the chat areas I frequent that I'll thwap anyone who ignores the basic rules of English. Especially, as commented on several times above, the younger generation, in particular, appears to delight in mutilating my beloved language.
I have a very sarcatic manner in my speech and habitually use emotes to express myself because of the lack of seeing or hearing my body language and heavy use of tone for meaning.
I, too, lose my cool when I feel ignored because someone simply walked off, again, another major crime of youth, than those of us born in a world pre-internet and manners.
At least now, messengers have allowed voice and cam to give a better impression of one's communication.
Those features have permitted better expression.

healer

I hate the emotionlessness of it all. Ok smileys/emoticons may help in msn etc, but there's still this lack of emotion that I just can't handle. I've had so many arguments with mandy over IRC that were completely unnecessary (<--I checked the spelling before I put that in ) or were only started because one of us took something the wrong way. Either she was being sarcastic or I made a bad joke - the fact remains that you can't see facial expression and you can't hear tone of voice.

Oh and when they say something like "I was shouting at him but he couldn't here me". And badly placed commas.

Pisses me right off.

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guthmund

I, two, hate bad grammer, and, the, mis-placement, of, commas (,).

I find that humor and sarcasm just don't translate all that well.

I also have a tendency to use my hands when I talk. It helps me explain visually what I can't explain verbally. For the most part, it's not that big a deal, but the few instances it does crop up, it can be frustrating.

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maleficent

So everyone should be 100 percent available to you 100 percent of the time? good gawd!! you can't be serious...

One of the things i hate the most about online communication is the demandingness of people on it and the expectation of an immediate response... I don't want to talk to you right now... it's no different than me screening my phone and not wanting to pick up the phone...

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Toaster126

I dislike the fact that people come to you with inane questions that they would have answered for themselves if you weren't reachable on messenger services... that's one of my peeves with cell phones too.

My other peeve would be the gross butchering of language. It annoys me, makes ideas less clear, and makes the writer seem less intelligent - which is not always the case in real life.

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cyrnel

Agreed. While immediacy garners lots of first impressions, it also tends to eliminate the considered response. Witness call centers.

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Borla

I hate that people often act way differently than they would in person. I've ran a couple fairly busy message boards, including one where there has been a lot of trolling and discipline problems. There was a weekend lon, national GTG for the topic of that second board (happened to be a particular car type) , and I had occasion to meet dozens of members. All of the "troublemakers" I met were wall-flower types that seemed almost ashamed of their rep. online of being jerks. Over my time on message boards I've met probably somewhere near 100-125 people I'd conversed with online before that, and I don't have much respect for the ones that were 180* different in person than they were online.

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CSflim

I think the main problem in online communication is that people aren't actually as expressive through their writings as they actually think - primarily it is a lack of all of the "non textual" elements of speech - body language, gestures, emphasis, diction and so on. A huge amount of the meaning of the sentences we speak is tied up in these 'extras', and their online counterparts; emoticons and &lt;B>/&lt;I> tags are just ridiculously underequipped to deal with the level of subtlety involved.

I think that this goes a long way to explain the non-stop erruption of flamewars on improperly moderated messageboards and the like. I imagine two people having a heated flamewar, meeting in real life instead of online, and finding that though they differ profoundly in their beliefs, they manage to have a discussion which doesn't degenerate into screaming and namecalling. One of the key differences involved is that they can understand each other better. When one person makes a statement, its intention as a declaration of an unequivocal fact; just some vague il-defined idea being thrown out; or any of the infinite shades in between, can be more readily appreciated by its audience in the real life situation when they can hear the diction and see the facial expressions, gestures and body language compared to when they just have access to raw text.

So I think that when writing online (or in general really) we should constantly bear in mind that simply typing the words that we would say, if that person was sitting here in front of us, is not usually a good approach to getting our point across. Particularly when writing in an argumentative style, read back over what you just wrote and try to give it the most unchairitable interpretation possible - does it still come across as being as convincing and as reasonable and as level headed as you originally thought? When you made that blantantly offensive remark, is it fully apparent to all that your tongue was firmly in your cheek at the time? That hilarious sarcastic quip of yours; are you certain people will notice the sarcasm, given that it is not accompanied by a sarcastic tone of voice?

Conversely when reading anothers post, try to read it as chairitably as possible. Give the benefit of the doubt whenever it arises. Before leaping down the throat of someone for saying something outrageous - make sure that they actually said it, and that you didn't just think that they said it.

Of course there are other factors to take into account when wondering about the causes of online flamewars - immature people trolling and flamebaiting just for kicks, annonimity, lack of real consequences (such as social ostracization) for acting like an asshole (Theres a popular image that you see around which defines a mathematical equation along the lines of: Normal Person + Anonimity + Audience = Total Asshole).

Even though these latter factors are important in understanding argumetn on the net, I think that the impeded communication problem is one that can be addressed quite easily by individuals by changing how they read posts and how they write them.

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AquaFox

talking to girls is a real pain, it's easier from the introduction stand point, but beyond that, it's easy to freak people out or seem un-interested if you dont IM at the proper speed and amount or something.... soo it's a pain...


i hate when people say oic, ic, k, or stuff like that to EVERY thing.... i knew afew people who said "oic" after you say ANYTHING!!! and there was another person who said OK to everything.... i yelled at both of those two people... you need varried responses!!



i wish emotion was shared alot better online.... i've had txt message conversations which seemed to be going totally one direction,but were appearing to move in the total other direction for the other person... and that convo didnt end well.... but if you talk to the people in person more often in person, it's harder to mess up like this



i agree that i've noticed alot of people are totally different online... the lack of emotion allows everyone to act totally differently, but it also lets you see beyond there in person side, and seeing that 2nd side to that person can be interesting and useful when guaging the person in person

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Xazy

I work in Real Estate. The average customer who sends an inquiry on an apartment expects a reply within 2-3 hours. That is 50% based on some recent surveys taken. With blackberries becoming more common, it is that desire for instant gratification that bothers me.

I admit I reply to my work e-mails including at 2am when I am at home, and get shocked replies. But no one can be always be available like that.

AquaFox

right on!

i really wish my e-mail and txt messages on my phone had an "away-message"


alot of people who carry phones with them all the time assume that if they send you a text message, that you have to get it and must reply instantly.... sometimes i can't! last time at disney i was in space mountain as my phone buzzed with a txt, i hit ignore and proceeded to board the ride... only to get the message, "whats a matter, not talking to me today?" before i could even yank the phone out of my pocket....

the idea that people can't pick up the phone and type crap out sometimes, and that people actually don't carry PC's in there pockets 24/7 doesnt seem to exist for some people.

lol endless rant, but i forsee hopefully as this technology rolls into the future, we should see more common rules and mannors fall into place, such as with telephones.... by then again, i still know people who call and call over and over untill someone picks up

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Marvelous Marv

I can't reach out and touch anything on the Titty Board.

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abaya

1) Conducting a long-distance relationship on MSN and e-mail. Yeah, yeah, it's better than the old days, but man... sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't be better to only have letter-writing and the phone to sustain us.

2) Anything less than perfect spelling and grammar on any form of writing, including MSN, e-mail, and texting. Ktspktsp and I make a very strong point of NOT abbreviating or taking shortcuts when we use technology to communicate. This attention to detail was something we found attractive in each other, when we first met (and chatted sometimes on MSN).

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for Love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course.
--Khalil Gibran

analog

"AOL-speak"- i.e., horrible word abbreviations, using numbers for letters, and so on. Drives me nuts. Also, people who talk like idiots.

lindalove

It wasn't so I could have everyone available for no apparent reason. I'm 14 hours behind of my firends in the world, so time is never on my side. Communications via POTS sucks because of the prices and time. It'd be much easier with something online, then I wouldn't have to wait for everyone to sign on to say hello to them.

feelgood

There's always several boards on the net that's overrun with idiots who over-use emoticons, smily faces, various font size, colour, style, etc

Pip

I'm also frustrated by the lack of nuances in internet communication. For me it's not only the loss of voice inflections and body language, but the fact that English is my second language. I simply do not have the same feeling for the language as the native speakers, so I come across as rude and more stupid than I actually am.
Oh, and I agree with Mal, the urgency is horrible! Everyone must be online and talking 24/7. Well, I'm not. Sometimes I work, eat, sleep, go to lectures or the theatre and then I'm doing that and nothing else! Nothing pisses me off more than kids today complaining about how stressful (and expensive) it is to stay "connected" to their friends all the time. It's like they think people stop existing if they're not communicating? I predict we'll have Borg-like hive minds within the decade.

abaya

Oh, I thought of another one: FACEBOOK or Friendster or myspace.com or whatever else is like that. That shit drives me crazy... what a poor excuse for a popularity contest or clique formation en masse. There is no point.

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for Love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course.
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raeanna74

Guys that pm me and then after the first 2 lines I get the question "got any pics?" or "wanna cyber?" or some such asinine question. I'm not here just to satisfy your need to get off. I might indulge on the rare occaision when I'm terribly horny as well but if I'm not in the mood to do that - forget it. And as for pics - if I've shared ANY pics with you and you ask for more the very next time we talk - you can get lost. I don't take pics THAT often. I'm not a narcissistic nympho.


Poor typing and english skills.
Men who only want you to get them off.
People who BUZZ you repeatedly when you don't respond ASAP. (I run a daycare - I'm not at the computer ALL THE TIME.)
People who get offended if you don't pm them at least once a week. (I do have a life you know. You should try one - it can be fun.)

Thanks for letting me rant a tiny bit.

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My Karma just ran over your Dogma.

maleficent

or the age old - what do you look like... what difference does it make? I'm never going to meet you -- use your fucking imagination... cause you don't know if i am lying or telling the truth... if your sole purpose is to look for someone to cyber with... well - keep lookin//

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Carno

Man, it sounds like guys have it easy.

Nobody ever bugs me for stupid shit like cybersex and whatnot.

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maleficent

/me looks up carn's AIM address and makes a plan..

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sailor

Add another to the "I hate people who think that because it's the internet, basic rules of grammar don't apply."

And the all caps thing, too.

Oh, and sarcasm is impossible. Which is hard, because I'm typically pretty sarcastic.

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Rodney

Although I'm a professional know-it-all and enjoy answering questions that people pose on this board, a rather large proportion of those questions could be answered with a simple Google query.

Some people would rather post whatever question pops into their head and wait for an answer rather than try to address it themselves with a couple of minutes on a search engine. So, how bad did they -really- want that information?

Coppertop

1) People who cannot seem to find the caps lock or shift keys. You know who you are: it's not cool or unique, you just look like an ass.

2) How often my girl and I get into IM arguments over non-important things. It doesn't happen in real life, so why must it in IM?

3) And of course spelling and grammar. Am I the only person who reads what they write before hitting the submit/post button? It certainly feels that way most of the time.

Those of you that do post in an intelligent manner are appreciated, please keep it up. Hopefully the other crap is just part of the medium's growing pains.

Coppertop

One more thing: people who forward all those lame emails. If you must do so, please use the BCC field and delete all previous addressees, it's the proper thing to do.

CSflim

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Your Friend <Your.friend@somewhere.com>
Date: Jan 19, 2006 3:10 PM
Subject: FW:FWD:FW:FW:FWD:FWD:FWD: Pass this on
To: <friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com".



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From: Your Friend <Your.friend@somewhere.com>
Date: Jan 19, 2006 3:10 PM
Subject: FW:FWD:FW:FW:FWD:FWD:FWD: Pass this on
To: <friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com".



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Your Friend <Your.friend@somewhere.com>
Date: Jan 19, 2006 3:10 PM
Subject: FW:FWD:FW:FW:FWD:FWD:FWD: Pass this on
To: <friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com".



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Your Friend <Your.friend@somewhere.com>
Date: Jan 19, 2006 3:10 PM
Subject: FW:FWD:FW:FW:FWD:FWD:FWD: Pass this on
To: <friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com".



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Your Friend <Your.friend@somewhere.com>
Date: Jan 19, 2006 3:10 PM
Subject: FW:FWD:FW:FW:FWD:FWD:FWD: Pass this on
To: <friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com",,<friendsfriend@somewhere.com> "your_friends_friend@somewhere.com", <bob@bob.com> "bob@bob.com", <joe@joe.com> "joe@joe.com", <mike@mike.com> "mike@mike.com".






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Rodney

I actually don't care about poor typing, spelling, or grammar. If the posting is easily readable and the thoughts are interesting, I'm satisfied. Content is more important than form.

Borla

Damn.....there goes my crafty plan to PM raeanna.

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raeanna74

Oh you can pm, you can even hint at cyber sex, or pics. Just PLEASE don't do it in the first 10 min of our conversation. Actually find out who I am first.

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