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Stick · 06-11-2010, 05:21 PM

Technically, I don't actually own these gats, but I do get to brass things up with them.
Yee ha.

and...

My avatar picture is my favourite revolver.

KirStang · 06-11-2010, 07:18 PM

Wow. Exotic guns from down under. How do you like those bad boys?

I recently shot my MSAR (Aug Copy) and loved the way the gun handled. All the weight on the rear means accurate offhand shots are fairly easy compared to a front-heavy AR.

Walt, re: M855. Have you tried hot M193 loads on the mild steel? I hear the zippy 55gr round is a better penetrator in certain circumstances.

longbough · 06-11-2010, 07:19 PM

I'd be smiling, too!!!

Plan9 · 06-11-2010, 08:50 PM

MAG / M240 gives me a boner, too.

Stick · 06-12-2010, 04:53 PM

That MAG 58 rips big holes in everything. I love it. Not real keen on the Steyr, they're a good bit of kit, though, and you're right, KirStang, offhand shots are easy,
but the 'pup' design weapons don't really thrill me.
I had a play with an M16 when I was deployed, and found that more to my liking.
We've got a red dot on the M203, but when the pressure is on it's a pain in the arse, and I line up the 2 screwheads on top of the sight with the target. Works perfectly.

Stick · 06-13-2010, 04:39 PM

Couple more.
First is my 686

and then my Para P18 LTD in .38 Super

Sorry the photos are so shitty.

Walt · 07-14-2010, 06:38 AM

Having big hands, I recently got fed up with the finger grooves on my G19. When gripping the pistol, the peak of the finger grooves sat dead center on my fingers so I took a file to them. The end result is ugly, but it works; I feel like I have more clearance that results in a better grip on the pistol when drawing. Also, because of that better grip, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the pistol points naturally.

Ilow · 07-14-2010, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walt

Having big hands, I recently got fed up with the finger grooves on my G19. When gripping the pistol, the peak of the finger grooves sat dead center on my fingers so I took a file to them. The end result is ugly, but it works; I feel like I have more clearance that results in a better grip on the pistol when drawing. Also, because of that better grip, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the pistol points naturally and I am now able to keep double-taps in a 3x5 index card @ roughly 10 meters. Not bad for a compact pistol.

couldn't you just have gotten an earlier gen Glock without the grooves with just the checkering, or that wouldn't have been as fun?

Walt · 07-15-2010, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilow

couldn't you just have gotten an earlier gen Glock without the grooves with just the checkering, or that wouldn't have been as fun?

The earlier Gen 1 and 2 Glocks didn't have the finger grooves. Unfortunately, they also didn't have the integral light rails; something that I prefer on general purpose pistols. It's easier to file off finger grooves than it is to add a rail.

Slims · 08-17-2010, 07:12 PM

Just a few quick pics from my last rotation. They were taken following ambushes during that lull where you really have nothing else to do but high-five and take happy snaps.

Plan9 · 08-17-2010, 10:36 PM

Walt:

Looks like an appendix carry holster to me. I like the smooth Glock even though I don't have too many problems with my Skeletor hands on the grooves.

Slims:

Nice battle wagon. You should post it on the badass sandbox rides contest they have floating around somewhere. All sorts of goodies: 7.62mm, 40mm, 66mm, some black paws. Question though: how did you rig the feed for the 240B (D?) on the right? Cans straight under the guns?

Slims · 08-18-2010, 12:08 PM

One is a right side feed the other is left side feed.

Everything except for the weapons themselves is hand-made in country and has been slowly improved each rotation. Our Mechanic put a lot of time into custom-welding things for us and the chicken plate his all him.

The current design has the chicken plate you see above. What you don't see is that instead of a normal ammo can (which it can accommodate) it carries 6 (3 on each side) cut-down and re-welded .50 cal cans which each hold about 350 7.62 rounds....So you have in the neighborhood of 2000 rounds up on the gun at all times. The system features individual triggers but a dual charging handle.

Basically this allows the rear-gunner to shoot 2 240's cyclic during initial contact and then he can 'talk' his own weapons by firing one at a time. There is enough ammunition up on the guns to sustain a pretty heavy volume of fire. Of course, we had another couple thousand rounds in the racks on the gun.

The main gunner on this one was rocking a MK-19 (with 750 rounds of ammunition somehow squirreled away) which makes that truck pretty gnarly.

Plan9 · 08-18-2010, 12:24 PM

You just said gnarly.

Out-friggin'-standing battle wagon setup. Very Mad Max. Reminds me of the turrets on those brown water gunboats used in Vietnam. I'd love to see the that setup from the gunner's view. I figured it might be some custom blaster work based on the backwards carry / swap handle on the right gun. Are the barrels swapped at all or do you just cook them? Did you chop the stock on one gun (assuming the unit is shouldered) or are they both gone?

Slims · 08-18-2010, 06:27 PM

I took a couple photos back down. I don't like leaving pics of me up online for long.

ChrisJericho · 08-19-2010, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slims

Just a few quick pics from my last rotation. They were taken following ambushes during that lull where you really have nothing else to do but high-five and take happy snaps.

The question is... will it stop a bear?

Plan9 · 08-19-2010, 04:48 PM

The stock turret on the RG-31 wasn't bad (actually a nicer fit than most GI stuff) but certainly not designed for what we were using it for in country.

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Walt · 08-26-2010, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisJericho

The question is... will it stop a bear?

Awesome.

Plan9 · 08-26-2010, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walt

Awesome.

Wow. You dudes need to get one of those dorky morale patches made up. Bear Stopper or something.

Edit: I'm seriously thinking about doing it. Anybody want a TFP Bear Stopper patch? Tavor silhouette with text?

ChrisJericho · 08-26-2010, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan9

Wow. You dudes need to get one of those dorky morale patches made up. Bear Stopper or something.

Edit: I'm seriously thinking about doing it. Anybody want a TFP Bear Stopper patch? Tavor silhouette with text?

Yes and yes.

Walt · 09-08-2010, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan9

Looks like an appendix carry holster to me.

Nah, I wear it slightly off-center of my back pocket. I have what Mr. Mix-A-Lot would refer to as "back" (take a moment and enjoy that mental image) so my pants ride higher in the back and lower in the front, making the gun sit at a bit of a forward cant.

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Got a few adult beverages in me the other night and decided to mess with "Glock Perfection".

I started with grinding down the finger hooks and checkering on the front strap. I then cut away a small portion of the underside of the trigger guard where it was constantly rubbing my social finger raw. I added a bit of a bevel to the area around the mag release to afford easier access. I then stippled a good portion of the frame after having the previously attached skateboard tape slough off whenever it got soggy.

My hack job could never be confused with the work of a professional, but it has served to make the pistol more functional for my intended purposes.

KirStang · 09-08-2010, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walt

My hack job could never be confused with the work of a professional, but it has served to make the pistol more functional for my intended purposes.

That stippling job actually looks pretty good. Nice job.

Walt · 09-10-2010, 07:15 AM

Thanks. There are imperfections here and there, but overall I am happy with the way it turned out. The finish is aggressive without being obnoxious (and eating shirts and skin) like the grip tape.

Plan9 · 09-18-2010, 10:07 AM

How much do to mine? I'll have the woman mail them to you.

Walt · 09-18-2010, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plan9

How much do to mine? I'll have the woman mail them to you.

I can hack away at my Glocks because I don't really care how the end result looks so long as I learn something along the way. I would work on yours for a burger and/or a beer were I not terrified of ruining someone else's guns. I have a G20 that I'm planning on working on. How about I hold off until I'm in your area in Oct/Nov and I can walk you through it?

Plan9 · 10-01-2010, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walt

I can hack away at my Glocks because I don't really care how the end result looks so long as I learn something along the way. I would work on yours for a burger and/or a beer were I not terrified of ruining someone else's guns. I have a G20 that I'm planning on working on. How about I hold off until I'm in your area in Oct/Nov and I can walk you through it?

Don't be a sissy. You can't ruin a Glock with such small tools. And I only mentioned it as a joke... I'm out of the country.

I've been meaning to dehump my Glocks as well. I'm buying another G34 and G19 when I get back so I can deform 'em.

I refuse to buy new guns, so I'll be working on humped Glocks for quite awhile I'd imagine. I'll have a lot of practice.

Lemme know if you're in the area early next year and you can school me on the shooting part of the Glock, too.

KirStang · 10-02-2010, 05:40 PM

My HD & Go-to Carbine:

Walt · 10-15-2010, 12:28 PM

After a year of saving and a few agonizing months in the shop, I finally got my “dream” target rifle. It started out as a pawn shop Remington 700 BDL in .308 Win. I took the barreled action to Leonard and Jon Baity at Baity’s Custom Gunworks and they did the rest.

The barrel is a hand-selected 26” Stainless Douglas medium-heavy with a 1 in 10” twist. The headspacing has been set specifically for the 168-175 SMK bullets that I prefer, loaded at standard COAL. I asked for the barrel to be threaded so that I can run a muzzle break during extended range sessions and then throw on a thread protector for hunting. Jon did so and fabricated the break so that it cams up so perfectly. You cannot see any seam between the break and the barrel when it’s installed. He also supplied a neat knurled thread protector, cut the flutes and recessed the crown.
The stock receiver has been trued. Instead of trying to blueprint the stock bolt, the guys fabricated a completely new one that is perfectly square in all dimensions. A neat feature of the bolt (aside from the cool-looking spiral fluting) is that it takes down without any tools so that a blown primer in the field is no longer a show-stopper. The bolt has a straight handle as opposed to the regular Remington style. Also, they fabricated and installed an oversized bolt knob.
The Jewell trigger has been polished and set for 2.5 lbs, though adjusting it is a breeze.
The Badger steel trigger guard that I supplied had a shitty powder coat and rusted out in the box so Jon CNC’d, finished and installed a flat-bottomed custom job that looks fantastic.
The stock is a McMillian A5 that has been epoxy bedded – Leonard talked me out of straight pillar bedding. I wanted a Pachmayr Presentation recoil pad, but none could be found so they guys installed and ground to fit a Kick Ez pad that just feels awesome.
Optics are a Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x56 on Badger rings and mount.

--------------------------------------------

Shameless plug:
All said, the guys at Baity’s are fucking awesome. When designing the rifle, they walked me through the features available, what works and what is a waste of money. They were also super patient with all of my noob questions and guided me through the gear, reloading processes and load development procedures that work for them. They even schooled me on how environmental factors effect bullet trajectory at long ranges. Of course, the finished product was flawless. And fairly cheap considering the level of work being done. Would definitely recommend to friends.

Plan9 · 10-18-2010, 03:13 AM

Nice dart gun, Walt. Was that gun formally the turd brown rifle in the turd brown McMillan jacket we saw last year? Good recovery.

I'm really impressed. I got a little chub going on when I saw the bolt. I wonder if they can do anything cool to my Savage Scout.

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Hard to feel like a real badass when you're carrying around this kinda shit at work.

Pistol is perfect. G19 with night sights, extended slide and mag release, 17-rnd mags.

Rifle is a joke of not-even-complete-ness. Bushmaster; no optics, no handguard covers.

Plan9 · 10-24-2010, 04:58 AM

*looks at Walt's rifle*

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy I Keep Posting

Another identifier of a next generation fudd is chastising of cheap equipment. You may see them lightly place their Nightforce wearing Remington 700 in a pelican case, then have them tell you they pay the extra money so they know their gear can survive an IED blast. Of course if you really want to know what abuse your rifle or gear can take you would dish out the abuse yourself, but a lot of people who dig that deep into their budget are too afraid to scratch the equipment. In the end, no matter what military trials it's been through, the best equipment is the equipment you aren't afraid to use and abuse.

Do you know this dude?

Walt · 10-25-2010, 07:21 AM

Ha. That narcissistic, self-righteous, cock-chugging, chatroom hero of a "blogger" can suck a fart from my hairy asshole. He's too poor of a writer and too much of a blow-hard to even be funny.

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It just occurred to me that all of our M24's were sporting a mix of US Optics, Leupolds and Nightforce optics. All were issued in a Pelican case....

Plan9 · 10-25-2010, 09:18 AM

I was asking for your opinion of him, not me. Focus. And you didn't answer my question from post #188.

Also: I believe the correct term is "gargling," not "chugging." I had to consult my exwife for clarification.

Slims · 10-25-2010, 12:26 PM

I had never been to that guys blog until I read Walt's rant and got interested.

That guy is a douche and his blog has no direction and no valid conclusions that I can find.

I baby my optics as best as I am able but I have still broken 3 Eotechs and an ACOG....But I am an idiot for buying the sturdiest I can afford and then trying not to break any more?

Having been burned before by inexpensive scopes which fail spectacularly at the range, I now purchase the nicest I can afford, even if that means I cannot afford to replace it. That is because a scope that costs half as much but doesn't perform *at all* is not worth the money.

Also, because I am not an expert in all things I tend to listen to the advice of people whom I consider to be experts in whatever topic is being explored. For instance: If my wife is ill and the doctors tell me she needs surgery to correct x condition, I am probably going to listen to that advice. I may ask a few questions and require them to support their recommendation, but absent any basis for a contrary opinion I am going to go with the guy who fixes that sort of thing for a living.

I think this blogger does not understand what 'evolution' entails regarding weapons and accessories: 1: A bunch of new ideas hit the market 2: A bunch of people test the product 3: Most products fail, but a few seem worthwhile 4: some industrious soldiers will sua sponte take their favorite new toy on a deployment/training rotation to check it out 5: Most of those fail and the soldiers go back to issued equipment 6: A few things work, are improved, and are added to the toolchest. So basically if you listen to the guy hawking the next-best but unproven thing, you are more likely than not to end up with an inferior product...Why risk that?

I have never even heard of a soldier running a 3-gun dual optic setup downrange. The idea is so foreign to me I don't even know what to think. First off, every unit in country (with possible exception of a few generator mechanics and water purifiers) has a big ass laser that mounts to the front of their rifle, as well as a tac-light. You can't get a fight picture around all that crap with a regular offset optic setup, and some ridiculous super extend deal would be broken within a week. Also, everyone I know tries to keep their weapons light and with as little extra shit on them as possible.

longbough · 11-05-2010, 04:38 AM

My FN FS2000 - Monolith Arms p90-styled forend, EoTech 553, and Wolf Eyes light.

I absolutely love my 18" Vang Comped Remington 870 Police Magnum.

Plan9 · 11-05-2010, 04:59 AM

Glad to see you're still around, Longbough. Nice toys, but that shotgun sling would drive me nuts if it was anywhere near me.

longbough · 11-05-2010, 06:34 AM

Yeah. I still pop in now and again. Harder to stay current since I got married. And, as of last month, I also just became a dad.

I use a Wilderness sling with my 870. I've never been 100% happy with it. Could you recommend something else?

Plan9 · 11-05-2010, 06:54 AM

Viking Tactics or Emdom adjustable models are both good. They're two points with one hand adjustment, perfect for shoulder swaps and tightening up to go hands off the gun. I've had a pretty good experience the Viking Tactics, but don't like the metal ALICE pack hardware (tiny spring can break). Try the Emdom. The key to success with slings, IMO, is retention without having something to get caught up in. Three points are for goofy chumps.

I'm not a gun expert by any stretch of the imagination, so I'd suggest waiting until Slims or Walt sticks in their head in and drops a suggestion.

longbough · 11-05-2010, 07:11 AM

Well, those options are great for an AR (I use two-point slings with my ARs) but the 870 has different mounting points. There's the rub.

Plan9 · 11-05-2010, 08:30 AM

The mounting points on your 870 aren't much different than those on the M4. Exhibit A: The sling swivel stud is on the bottom of the stock. Just unscrew it and put it on the 11 o'clock (makes an ugly hole, get another stock?). I can't think of anybody that runs a standard Civil War-era rifle sling anymore.

I see all weapons as capable of using the handy adjustable AR sling setup. I don't run long guns (except hunting rifles) with traditional slings anymore.

...

Anyway, your shotgun is tits, brother. Is that a Hogue bantam stock?

longbough · 11-05-2010, 08:45 AM

Actually it's not a traditional sling.
It's basically a Giles configuration:

Not at all like a hunter sling (although it can employ African or American carry with this sling), but not quite as comfortable as my 2-point for the AR.

Plan9 · 11-05-2010, 08:50 AM

Yeah, it's a three point. Which I don't like.

06-11-2010, 05:21 PM	#161 (permalink)
Stick Psycho Location: Sydney, Australia	Technically, I don't actually own these gats, but I do get to brass things up with them. Yee ha. and... My avatar picture is my favourite revolver. __________________ ominous adj. Menacing; threatening. Of or being an omen, especially an evil one. Last edited by Stick; 06-11-2010 at 05:25 PM..

06-11-2010, 07:19 PM	#163 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	I'd be smiling, too!!! __________________ "I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence." - Mahatma Ghandi

06-11-2010, 08:50 PM	#164 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	MAG / M240 gives me a boner, too. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

06-12-2010, 04:53 PM	#165 (permalink)
Stick Psycho Location: Sydney, Australia	That MAG 58 rips big holes in everything. I love it. Not real keen on the Steyr, they're a good bit of kit, though, and you're right, KirStang, offhand shots are easy, but the 'pup' design weapons don't really thrill me. I had a play with an M16 when I was deployed, and found that more to my liking. We've got a red dot on the M203, but when the pressure is on it's a pain in the arse, and I line up the 2 screwheads on top of the sight with the target. Works perfectly. __________________ ominous adj. Menacing; threatening. Of or being an omen, especially an evil one.

06-13-2010, 04:39 PM	#166 (permalink)
Stick Psycho Location: Sydney, Australia	Couple more. First is my 686 and then my Para P18 LTD in .38 Super Sorry the photos are so shitty. __________________ ominous adj. Menacing; threatening. Of or being an omen, especially an evil one.

06-11-2010, 07:18 PM	#162 (permalink)
KirStang Future Bureaucrat	Wow. Exotic guns from down under. How do you like those bad boys? I recently shot my MSAR (Aug Copy) and loved the way the gun handled. All the weight on the rear means accurate offhand shots are fairly easy compared to a front-heavy AR. Walt, re: M855. Have you tried hot M193 loads on the mild steel? I hear the zippy 55gr round is a better penetrator in certain circumstances.

07-14-2010, 06:38 AM	#167 (permalink)
Walt I'm calmer than you are, dude Location: North Carolina	Having big hands, I recently got fed up with the finger grooves on my G19. When gripping the pistol, the peak of the finger grooves sat dead center on my fingers so I took a file to them. The end result is ugly, but it works; I feel like I have more clearance that results in a better grip on the pistol when drawing. Also, because of that better grip, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the pistol points naturally. __________________ Calmer than you are... Last edited by Walt; 10-15-2010 at 12:42 PM..

08-17-2010, 10:36 PM	#171 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Walt: Looks like an appendix carry holster to me. I like the smooth Glock even though I don't have too many problems with my Skeletor hands on the grooves. Slims: Nice battle wagon. You should post it on the badass sandbox rides contest they have floating around somewhere. All sorts of goodies: 7.62mm, 40mm, 66mm, some black paws. Question though: how did you rig the feed for the 240B (D?) on the right? Cans straight under the guns? __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 08-17-2010 at 10:54 PM..

08-18-2010, 12:08 PM	#172 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	One is a right side feed the other is left side feed. Everything except for the weapons themselves is hand-made in country and has been slowly improved each rotation. Our Mechanic put a lot of time into custom-welding things for us and the chicken plate his all him. The current design has the chicken plate you see above. What you don't see is that instead of a normal ammo can (which it can accommodate) it carries 6 (3 on each side) cut-down and re-welded .50 cal cans which each hold about 350 7.62 rounds....So you have in the neighborhood of 2000 rounds up on the gun at all times. The system features individual triggers but a dual charging handle. Basically this allows the rear-gunner to shoot 2 240's cyclic during initial contact and then he can 'talk' his own weapons by firing one at a time. There is enough ammunition up on the guns to sustain a pretty heavy volume of fire. Of course, we had another couple thousand rounds in the racks on the gun. The main gunner on this one was rocking a MK-19 (with 750 rounds of ammunition somehow squirreled away) which makes that truck pretty gnarly. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

08-18-2010, 12:24 PM	#173 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	You just said gnarly. Out-friggin'-standing battle wagon setup. Very Mad Max. Reminds me of the turrets on those brown water gunboats used in Vietnam. I'd love to see the that setup from the gunner's view. I figured it might be some custom blaster work based on the backwards carry / swap handle on the right gun. Are the barrels swapped at all or do you just cook them? Did you chop the stock on one gun (assuming the unit is shouldered) or are they both gone? __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

08-18-2010, 06:27 PM	#174 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	I took a couple photos back down. I don't like leaving pics of me up online for long. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence Last edited by Slims; 09-12-2010 at 09:42 AM..

08-19-2010, 04:48 PM	#176 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	The stock turret on the RG-31 wasn't bad (actually a nicer fit than most GI stuff) but certainly not designed for what we were using it for in country. ... __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 11-05-2010 at 05:03 AM..

09-10-2010, 07:15 AM	#182 (permalink)
Walt I'm calmer than you are, dude Location: North Carolina	Thanks. There are imperfections here and there, but overall I am happy with the way it turned out. The finish is aggressive without being obnoxious (and eating shirts and skin) like the grip tape. __________________ Calmer than you are...

09-18-2010, 10:07 AM	#183 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	How much do to mine? I'll have the woman mail them to you.

10-02-2010, 05:40 PM	#186 (permalink)
KirStang Future Bureaucrat	My HD & Go-to Carbine:

10-15-2010, 12:28 PM	#187 (permalink)
Walt I'm calmer than you are, dude Location: North Carolina	After a year of saving and a few agonizing months in the shop, I finally got my “dream” target rifle. It started out as a pawn shop Remington 700 BDL in .308 Win. I took the barreled action to Leonard and Jon Baity at Baity’s Custom Gunworks and they did the rest. The barrel is a hand-selected 26” Stainless Douglas medium-heavy with a 1 in 10” twist. The headspacing has been set specifically for the 168-175 SMK bullets that I prefer, loaded at standard COAL. I asked for the barrel to be threaded so that I can run a muzzle break during extended range sessions and then throw on a thread protector for hunting. Jon did so and fabricated the break so that it cams up so perfectly. You cannot see any seam between the break and the barrel when it’s installed. He also supplied a neat knurled thread protector, cut the flutes and recessed the crown. The stock receiver has been trued. Instead of trying to blueprint the stock bolt, the guys fabricated a completely new one that is perfectly square in all dimensions. A neat feature of the bolt (aside from the cool-looking spiral fluting) is that it takes down without any tools so that a blown primer in the field is no longer a show-stopper. The bolt has a straight handle as opposed to the regular Remington style. Also, they fabricated and installed an oversized bolt knob. The Jewell trigger has been polished and set for 2.5 lbs, though adjusting it is a breeze. The Badger steel trigger guard that I supplied had a shitty powder coat and rusted out in the box so Jon CNC’d, finished and installed a flat-bottomed custom job that looks fantastic. The stock is a McMillian A5 that has been epoxy bedded – Leonard talked me out of straight pillar bedding. I wanted a Pachmayr Presentation recoil pad, but none could be found so they guys installed and ground to fit a Kick Ez pad that just feels awesome. Optics are a Nightforce NXS 3.5-15x56 on Badger rings and mount. -------------------------------------------- Shameless plug: All said, the guys at Baity’s are fucking awesome. When designing the rifle, they walked me through the features available, what works and what is a waste of money. They were also super patient with all of my noob questions and guided me through the gear, reloading processes and load development procedures that work for them. They even schooled me on how environmental factors effect bullet trajectory at long ranges. Of course, the finished product was flawless. And fairly cheap considering the level of work being done. Would definitely recommend to friends. __________________ Calmer than you are... Last edited by Walt; 10-25-2010 at 07:03 AM.. Reason: pics

10-18-2010, 03:13 AM	#188 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Nice dart gun, Walt. Was that gun formally the turd brown rifle in the turd brown McMillan jacket we saw last year? Good recovery. I'm really impressed. I got a little chub going on when I saw the bolt. I wonder if they can do anything cool to my Savage Scout. ... Hard to feel like a real badass when you're carrying around this kinda shit at work. Pistol is perfect. G19 with night sights, extended slide and mag release, 17-rnd mags. Rifle is a joke of not-even-complete-ness. Bushmaster; no optics, no handguard covers. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 10-18-2010 at 03:29 AM..

10-25-2010, 07:21 AM	#190 (permalink)
Walt I'm calmer than you are, dude Location: North Carolina	Ha. That narcissistic, self-righteous, cock-chugging, chatroom hero of a "blogger" can suck a fart from my hairy asshole. He's too poor of a writer and too much of a blow-hard to even be funny. ------------ It just occurred to me that all of our M24's were sporting a mix of US Optics, Leupolds and Nightforce optics. All were issued in a Pelican case.... __________________ Calmer than you are... Last edited by Walt; 10-25-2010 at 07:37 AM..

10-25-2010, 09:18 AM	#191 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	I was asking for your opinion of him, not me. Focus. And you didn't answer my question from post #188. Also: I believe the correct term is "gargling," not "chugging." I had to consult my exwife for clarification. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 10-25-2010 at 09:23 AM..

10-25-2010, 12:26 PM	#192 (permalink)
Slims Eccentric insomniac Location: North Carolina	I had never been to that guys blog until I read Walt's rant and got interested. That guy is a douche and his blog has no direction and no valid conclusions that I can find. I baby my optics as best as I am able but I have still broken 3 Eotechs and an ACOG....But I am an idiot for buying the sturdiest I can afford and then trying not to break any more? Having been burned before by inexpensive scopes which fail spectacularly at the range, I now purchase the nicest I can afford, even if that means I cannot afford to replace it. That is because a scope that costs half as much but doesn't perform at all is not worth the money. Also, because I am not an expert in all things I tend to listen to the advice of people whom I consider to be experts in whatever topic is being explored. For instance: If my wife is ill and the doctors tell me she needs surgery to correct x condition, I am probably going to listen to that advice. I may ask a few questions and require them to support their recommendation, but absent any basis for a contrary opinion I am going to go with the guy who fixes that sort of thing for a living. I think this blogger does not understand what 'evolution' entails regarding weapons and accessories: 1: A bunch of new ideas hit the market 2: A bunch of people test the product 3: Most products fail, but a few seem worthwhile 4: some industrious soldiers will sua sponte take their favorite new toy on a deployment/training rotation to check it out 5: Most of those fail and the soldiers go back to issued equipment 6: A few things work, are improved, and are added to the toolchest. So basically if you listen to the guy hawking the next-best but unproven thing, you are more likely than not to end up with an inferior product...Why risk that? I have never even heard of a soldier running a 3-gun dual optic setup downrange. The idea is so foreign to me I don't even know what to think. First off, every unit in country (with possible exception of a few generator mechanics and water purifiers) has a big ass laser that mounts to the front of their rifle, as well as a tac-light. You can't get a fight picture around all that crap with a regular offset optic setup, and some ridiculous super extend deal would be broken within a week. Also, everyone I know tries to keep their weapons light and with as little extra shit on them as possible. __________________ "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." - Winston Churchill "All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dream with open eyes, to make it possible." Seven Pillars of Wisdom, T.E. Lawrence

11-05-2010, 04:38 AM	#193 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	My FN FS2000 - Monolith Arms p90-styled forend, EoTech 553, and Wolf Eyes light. I absolutely love my 18" Vang Comped Remington 870 Police Magnum. __________________ "I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence." - Mahatma Ghandi

11-05-2010, 04:59 AM	#194 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Glad to see you're still around, Longbough. Nice toys, but that shotgun sling would drive me nuts if it was anywhere near me. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

11-05-2010, 06:34 AM	#195 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	Yeah. I still pop in now and again. Harder to stay current since I got married. And, as of last month, I also just became a dad. I use a Wilderness sling with my 870. I've never been 100% happy with it. Could you recommend something else? __________________ "I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence." - Mahatma Ghandi

11-05-2010, 06:54 AM	#196 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Viking Tactics or Emdom adjustable models are both good. They're two points with one hand adjustment, perfect for shoulder swaps and tightening up to go hands off the gun. I've had a pretty good experience the Viking Tactics, but don't like the metal ALICE pack hardware (tiny spring can break). Try the Emdom. The key to success with slings, IMO, is retention without having something to get caught up in. Three points are for goofy chumps. I'm not a gun expert by any stretch of the imagination, so I'd suggest waiting until Slims or Walt sticks in their head in and drops a suggestion. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 11-05-2010 at 07:03 AM..

11-05-2010, 07:11 AM	#197 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	Well, those options are great for an AR (I use two-point slings with my ARs) but the 870 has different mounting points. There's the rub. __________________ "I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence." - Mahatma Ghandi

11-05-2010, 08:30 AM	#198 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	The mounting points on your 870 aren't much different than those on the M4. Exhibit A: The sling swivel stud is on the bottom of the stock. Just unscrew it and put it on the 11 o'clock (makes an ugly hole, get another stock?). I can't think of anybody that runs a standard Civil War-era rifle sling anymore. I see all weapons as capable of using the handy adjustable AR sling setup. I don't run long guns (except hunting rifles) with traditional slings anymore. ... Anyway, your shotgun is tits, brother. Is that a Hogue bantam stock? __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake." Last edited by Plan9; 11-05-2010 at 08:40 AM..

11-05-2010, 08:45 AM	#199 (permalink)
longbough Soylent Green is people. Location: Northern California	Actually it's not a traditional sling. It's basically a Giles configuration: Not at all like a hunter sling (although it can employ African or American carry with this sling), but not quite as comfortable as my 2-point for the AR. __________________ "I do believe that, where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence. Thus when my eldest son asked me what he should have done, had he been present when I was almost fatally assaulted in 1908, whether he should have run away and seen me killed or whether he should have used his physical force which he could and wanted to use, and defended me, I told him that it was his duty to defend me even by using violence." - Mahatma Ghandi

11-05-2010, 08:50 AM	#200 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Yeah, it's a three point. Which I don't like. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."