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Lucifer · 11-23-2005, 02:34 PM

I was visiting Member's Playground this afternoon, and checked out the TFP as Pleasantville thread. I was wondering if it is possible to create a TFP MMORPG, with some "free" program out there. does anyone have any ideas?

Lucifer · 11-25-2005, 05:01 AM

21 PEOPLE HAVE VIEWED AND NO ONE HAS A FUCKING COMMMENT?

tecoyah · 11-25-2005, 02:41 PM

Im not a programmer.....but, ....excellent concept....

arch13 · 11-25-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucifer

21 PEOPLE HAVE VIEWED AND NO ONE HAS A FUCKING COMMMENT?

Chillllll Winston.

Programing is not a high traffic area, and many just browse through.
This is the type of idea that very few in our commmunity could implament (SP?).

Why don't you suggest this in that mentioned thread and see what response it gets?

Lucifer · 11-26-2005, 06:08 AM

I tried that, but that thread is on it's fourth page and has pretty much reached saturation point now. I get that programming is not a high trraffic area, and I was thinking of taking this thread over to "Computers" and seeing what would happen.
When I first thought of it, I googled "free mmorpg" to see what I would get and got a link and download to a french site, where they offer a free browser based mmorpg, but from then on it gets technical, and while I can take a computer apart and re-assemble it with the best of them, the programming of it makes me say,"whoa".
Maybe I'll troll this thread over in some other forums and see if there is any interest.

Jinn · 11-27-2005, 11:06 AM

TFP-ized, how? Do you mean that the characters are those of the board, or something further? Just having the TFP characters running around doesn't sound very fun, we'd just have a 3d chat room..

Pragma · 11-27-2005, 11:35 AM

Yea, I've got a lot of programming skills, but honestly -- would it be worth the effort? Probably not. We've already got an IRC chatroom where we can hang out and talk to a bunch of people.

What would the advantages of of a 3D chat room be? Well, uh, it could make Moe's a lot more interesting, but only if someone spent a massive amount of time programming character animations. And .. that's about the only real advantage I can think of. After all, it's not like people are going to look like themselves (or at least not for the most part).

But we could walk around and ... and then limit ourselves to talking to a subset of people because we're too far away from everyone else? Just start a private channel on IRC and invite who you want. Then you can talk on that one - and the main channel.

Don't get me wrong, it's a neat idea - but I just don't really see the advantages of this over IRC. Not to mention that we'd have to make it compatible for Mac OS, Windows, and Linux/BSD - otherwise people would be left out (and that would massively decrease usage).

For instance, if I want to talk to JinnKai, but I know he's running a Windows machine, and I've got a FreeBSD machine, and yet the "Tilted World" client doesn't run on FreeBSD, then why would either of us use TW instead of IRC (which works for all platforms).

Lucifer · 11-28-2005, 08:15 AM

Well, now that you put it that way, I guessI see you point. I've just been tooling around the EVE universe and was flush with the possiblities of it all.

Xixox · 11-28-2005, 07:25 PM

I'm not aware of any free 3D MMORPG environments for the taking, but I've got a relatively unused MUD that could suffice for a meeting spot. I'm not sure what the capacity is, but I have seen it with over 20 players.

Site is Reality's Edge- remud.org:4000

kel · 12-03-2005, 05:07 PM

Graphical or non-graphical? I think a text based MMORPG or Multi-User dungeon might be more apropriate. Yes you can do it fairly easily. Check out LambdaMOO and the software that runs it.

Lucifer · 12-04-2005, 03:31 PM

I was thinking of graphical, but reading over some other people's posts and doing some more research I don't think it's too practical

BAMF · 12-06-2005, 03:18 PM

this was on slashdot today
<a href="http://games.slashdot.org/games/05/12/06/186217.shtml?tid=209&tid=8">link</a>

insidious_machinae · 12-06-2005, 05:38 PM

It could totally be done in Java 1.4 using JOGL and FMOD (which would give you the multi-platform capability while still keeping excellent 3D graphics and sound), and if a project actually got started I'd gladly contribute as much coding time as I could.

However, as Pragma said, it's way too much work for a very little audience, with no pay initiative, and would likely be under-utilized even given the low-audience expectations.

trache · 12-08-2005, 10:31 AM

You could just have a group of Tilted Forum members who play Second Life. This MMORPG allows people to have (for lack of a better phrase) a "second life". Everyone could walk/fly around and still be able to chat. Create or buy other objects etc and interact with each other.

It was a great concept when I beta tested it, alas I don't know what it's like now. This is probably the closest you're going to get to a 3D chat room or RPG. The members here just don't have the time neccessary to create an entire world - do you have any idea how involved it is? I play EVE: The Second Genesis and from what I understand was in development for a few years before it was even in a beta-test phase.

fresnelly · 12-08-2005, 10:59 AM

This isn't exactly what you were asking about, but check out http://www.nationstates.net .

Basically, you create your own country and have to manage it. We could create a TFP region and play amongst ourselves. I haven't signed up (a co-worker is a big enthusiast) but would if others are up for it.

From the FAQ:

Quote:

How do I play?

Click on the Create a Nation link and follow it from there. You'll be asked to choose a name for your nation, a motto, a national animal, and a currency. Then you answer a short questionnaire about your politics. This will determine what sort of nation you end up with: authoritarian or permissive... left-wing or right-wing... compassionate or psychotic... you get the idea.

Once a day, you'll be faced with an issue, and need to make a decision as to what to do about it. This determines how your nation evolves.

How do I win?

Ah, but what is "winning," grasshopper? There is no way to win as such. Which is better, a left-wing civil rights paradise with no money, or a right-wing economic powerhouse where the poor are left to fend for themselves? (That's a rhetorical question.)

One way to succeed, at least in a sense, is to make it onto the top rungs of a United Nations report. These are compiled once per day, one for each Region and one for the entire world. Nations are ranked on anything from economic strength to the most liberal public nudity laws (the UN has a lot of time to fill in). There's a certain glory in making it onto one of those.

Lucifer · 12-09-2005, 05:12 AM

I've played Nation States before, but I don't remember much about it. Second Life looks interesting, though. that's sort of what I had in mind.

11-23-2005, 02:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Lucifer Husband of Seamaiden Location: Nova Scotia	Tilted World I was visiting Member's Playground this afternoon, and checked out the TFP as Pleasantville thread. I was wondering if it is possible to create a TFP MMORPG, with some "free" program out there. does anyone have any ideas? __________________ I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. - Job 30:29 1123, 6536, 5321

11-25-2005, 05:01 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lucifer Husband of Seamaiden Location: Nova Scotia	21 PEOPLE HAVE VIEWED AND NO ONE HAS A FUCKING COMMMENT? __________________ I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. - Job 30:29 1123, 6536, 5321

11-25-2005, 02:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
tecoyah Illusionary	Im not a programmer.....but, ....excellent concept.... __________________ Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned. - Buddha

11-26-2005, 06:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
Lucifer Husband of Seamaiden Location: Nova Scotia	I tried that, but that thread is on it's fourth page and has pretty much reached saturation point now. I get that programming is not a high trraffic area, and I was thinking of taking this thread over to "Computers" and seeing what would happen. When I first thought of it, I googled "free mmorpg" to see what I would get and got a link and download to a french site, where they offer a free browser based mmorpg, but from then on it gets technical, and while I can take a computer apart and re-assemble it with the best of them, the programming of it makes me say,"whoa". Maybe I'll troll this thread over in some other forums and see if there is any interest. __________________ I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. - Job 30:29 1123, 6536, 5321

11-27-2005, 11:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jinn Lover - Protector - Teacher Location: Seattle, WA	TFP-ized, how? Do you mean that the characters are those of the board, or something further? Just having the TFP characters running around doesn't sound very fun, we'd just have a 3d chat room.. __________________ "I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel

11-27-2005, 11:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
Pragma I am Winter Born Location: Alexandria, VA	Yea, I've got a lot of programming skills, but honestly -- would it be worth the effort? Probably not. We've already got an IRC chatroom where we can hang out and talk to a bunch of people. What would the advantages of of a 3D chat room be? Well, uh, it could make Moe's a lot more interesting, but only if someone spent a massive amount of time programming character animations. And .. that's about the only real advantage I can think of. After all, it's not like people are going to look like themselves (or at least not for the most part). But we could walk around and ... and then limit ourselves to talking to a subset of people because we're too far away from everyone else? Just start a private channel on IRC and invite who you want. Then you can talk on that one - and the main channel. Don't get me wrong, it's a neat idea - but I just don't really see the advantages of this over IRC. Not to mention that we'd have to make it compatible for Mac OS, Windows, and Linux/BSD - otherwise people would be left out (and that would massively decrease usage). For instance, if I want to talk to JinnKai, but I know he's running a Windows machine, and I've got a FreeBSD machine, and yet the "Tilted World" client doesn't run on FreeBSD, then why would either of us use TW instead of IRC (which works for all platforms). __________________ Eat antimatter, Posleen-boy!

11-28-2005, 08:15 AM	#8 (permalink)
Lucifer Husband of Seamaiden Location: Nova Scotia	Well, now that you put it that way, I guessI see you point. I've just been tooling around the EVE universe and was flush with the possiblities of it all. __________________ I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. - Job 30:29 1123, 6536, 5321

11-28-2005, 07:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
Xixox Crazy Location: MN-WI	I'm not aware of any free 3D MMORPG environments for the taking, but I've got a relatively unused MUD that could suffice for a meeting spot. I'm not sure what the capacity is, but I have seen it with over 20 players. Site is Reality's Edge- remud.org:4000 __________________ Incompetence When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do.

12-03-2005, 05:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
kel WARNING: FLAMMABLE Location: Ask Acetylene	Graphical or non-graphical? I think a text based MMORPG or Multi-User dungeon might be more apropriate. Yes you can do it fairly easily. Check out LambdaMOO and the software that runs it. __________________ "It better be funny"

12-04-2005, 03:31 PM	#11 (permalink)
Lucifer Husband of Seamaiden Location: Nova Scotia	I was thinking of graphical, but reading over some other people's posts and doing some more research I don't think it's too practical __________________ I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. - Job 30:29 1123, 6536, 5321

12-06-2005, 03:18 PM	#12 (permalink)
BAMF Crazy	this was on slashdot today <a href="http://games.slashdot.org/games/05/12/06/186217.shtml?tid=209&tid=8">link</a>

12-06-2005, 05:38 PM	#13 (permalink)
insidious_machinae Psycho	It could totally be done in Java 1.4 using JOGL and FMOD (which would give you the multi-platform capability while still keeping excellent 3D graphics and sound), and if a project actually got started I'd gladly contribute as much coding time as I could. However, as Pragma said, it's way too much work for a very little audience, with no pay initiative, and would likely be under-utilized even given the low-audience expectations.

12-08-2005, 10:31 AM	#14 (permalink)
trache Insane	You could just have a group of Tilted Forum members who play Second Life. This MMORPG allows people to have (for lack of a better phrase) a "second life". Everyone could walk/fly around and still be able to chat. Create or buy other objects etc and interact with each other. It was a great concept when I beta tested it, alas I don't know what it's like now. This is probably the closest you're going to get to a 3D chat room or RPG. The members here just don't have the time neccessary to create an entire world - do you have any idea how involved it is? I play EVE: The Second Genesis and from what I understand was in development for a few years before it was even in a beta-test phase. __________________ "You looked at me as if I was eating runny eggs in slow motion." - Gord Downie of The Tragically Hip

12-09-2005, 05:12 AM	#16 (permalink)
Lucifer Husband of Seamaiden Location: Nova Scotia	I've played Nation States before, but I don't remember much about it. Second Life looks interesting, though. that's sort of what I had in mind. __________________ I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls. - Job 30:29 1123, 6536, 5321