12-18-2004, 09:42 AM | #1 (permalink) |
Adequate
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Ionic Breeze/Pro vs. HEPA
Opinions? I just bought an Ionic pro after several years of on/off Honeywell HEPA use. Bought it for the lower power consumption and noise, which are both good. However, I don't much care for the ozone odeur. Cleaning also looks to be a frequent requrement I wasn't aware of. Anyone else have thoughts on these things?
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12-20-2004, 07:01 PM | #3 (permalink) |
Junkie
Location: San Diego
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I have an Ionic Breeze and I clean the thing probably once a month. It helps a little with odors but for the most part it sucks my roommates cigarette smell out of the apartment. You can't tell he smokes... It also cuts down on the dust. I like having it but it is one of those things you can live without if you don't really need it.
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12-20-2004, 07:17 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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Location: Manhattan, NY
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according to the Consumer Reports they state that the ionic breeze is not effective as a HEPA filtration system.
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12-20-2004, 10:47 PM | #5 (permalink) | ||
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Location: Ohio
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Okay, I'm going to help you out with this one:
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That's from a review at epinions.com. I found these pages of reviews for you. Ionic Breeze 1 Ionic Breeze 2 Another quote for you: Quote:
From what I'm reading, if you want it believe it works, you will. You will base all your evidence on the fact that the dust is visable on the blades you have to spend mucho time cleaning. The unit seems to genuinely generate Ozone. Ozone is one hell of an oxidizer, it will make smells go away. I believe, myself, that this unit will help with smells, not because of any filter effectiveness, but because it releases ozone. Fairly simple. Dust sticks to things, we know this. If I stuck a ten-dollar fan in the homes of 90% of these reviewers, I think they'd think it was a fucking miracle cleaner. Every review I read, over and over, bases all evidence of it working on the fact that the blades get dirty. Well, no shit. My TV screen catches dust too. I gather it is quiet. I gather it moves a tiny amount of air. I don't care how effective it is; and I don't believe it is at all. But, that nonwithstanding, if you read up on air cleaners, you find that to seriously clean the air in a room, you have to turn the air in that room over (filter ALL of it) several times an hour. This is because you're house is not air tight, and it's continiously being filled with dust. Literally, as soon as you get the dust out, more is being introduced. To effectively filter a home, you'd be looking at a whole house filter on the HVAC unit, and HEPA or ULPA filters in EACH room, all running continously. Most people are just looking to do one room. You still have a lot of cubic feet of air to filter. The Ionic Breeze slowly wafts a few cubic feet through itself. Numbers? Data? Not provided by the sharper image. You're just supposed to believe it works. There are filters out there that are certifed to work. There is no guesswork, there is an organization that sets standards. The filters are tested to meet the standards. How well they meet the standard, and an explaination of that standard, are published. HEPA is the name of that. The Ionic Breeze is not certified to do shit. You're just supposed to believe. If you do, more power to you. I have 2 HEPA air filters. Over 4 years I'll spend more on them then the Ionic Breeze. But, I'll have clean air, and I don't have to clean the damn things every week. Your call. About.com Has some pretty handy information on how to buy an air cleaner. Best thing I can tell you to keep in mind is this: Buy the biggest damn filter you can afford, with the highest efficiency. 1) Air cleaners are rated with the fan on "Hi." Most people run them at "low" or roughly 1/4 speed. Obviously, this affects how well it cleans. Don't blame the filter if it's rated to clean your room at max speed and you run it at 1/4 that. 2)Just don't buy a cheap POS, okay? You get what you pay for with these things. (OH, and by the way, Operating rooms, bilogical labs, etc, they don't use anything REMOTELY resebling and Ionic POS. They use HEPA and/or ULPA filters. That might mean something.) *EDIT* Well, shit, you already bought one. Don't I feel silly. Sorry about your luck pal.
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12-21-2004, 02:45 AM | #6 (permalink) |
Psycho
Location: maybe utah
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I did a ton of research on this and talked myself out of buying all of the ionizer/ozone type filters. There's tons of scientific research that basically points out that ozone is bad for your lungs. If you can taste that metallic taste on the back of your tongue you're tasting death.
But it does kill odors.
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12-21-2004, 08:14 AM | #7 (permalink) |
Adequate
Location: In my angry-dome.
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NOW you guys chime in. Yep, I took it back last night after deciding it was a careless impulse buy. Hadn't researched it at all, just saw the $149 tag & thought it was worth a try.
Good links & thoughts. Thanks all. Those would have sped my recovery. What killed it for me: -Hated the ozone odor. -It moved about half the air as my Honeywell HEPA on low. -It let smoke through (half my heat is from a fireplace), the HEPA doesn't, so combined with the airflow it's an expensive paperweight. Lesson learned. |
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