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cyrnel 12-18-2004 09:42 AM

Ionic Breeze/Pro vs. HEPA
 
Opinions? I just bought an Ionic pro after several years of on/off Honeywell HEPA use. Bought it for the lower power consumption and noise, which are both good. However, I don't much care for the ozone odeur. Cleaning also looks to be a frequent requrement I wasn't aware of. Anyone else have thoughts on these things?

cyrnel 12-20-2004 09:16 AM

So, is nobody else willing to admit they've tried one of these things?
:lol:

punx1325 12-20-2004 07:01 PM

I have an Ionic Breeze and I clean the thing probably once a month. It helps a little with odors but for the most part it sucks my roommates cigarette smell out of the apartment. You can't tell he smokes... It also cuts down on the dust. I like having it but it is one of those things you can live without if you don't really need it.

Cynthetiq 12-20-2004 07:17 PM

according to the Consumer Reports they state that the ionic breeze is not effective as a HEPA filtration system.

billege 12-20-2004 10:47 PM

Okay, I'm going to help you out with this one:

Quote:

My floor fan in my bedroom removes allergens from the environment because dust sticks to the fan blades, but that doesn't make it a useful air cleaner.
(I'd like to make it clear, I agree with the statement above, and how it relates to the Ionic Breeze.)

That's from a review at epinions.com.
I found these pages of reviews for you.

Ionic Breeze 1

Ionic Breeze 2

Another quote for you:
Quote:

One standard that is used to compare how effective an air purifier is, is the CADR (Clean Air Delivery Rate) certified by the AHAM (Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers). The higher the CADR, the more particles are removed from the air in a given time. If you ask Sharper Image what its CADR for the Ionic Breeze is, they will not provide it. They will likely reply that CADR is an unfair measurement and does not apply to the Ionic Breeze. Simply, they have not been certified by the AHAM.
I've read a few reviews on this bugger, all from where I've linked to on Epinions.

From what I'm reading, if you want it believe it works, you will. You will base all your evidence on the fact that the dust is visable on the blades you have to spend mucho time cleaning.

The unit seems to genuinely generate Ozone. Ozone is one hell of an oxidizer, it will make smells go away. I believe, myself, that this unit will help with smells, not because of any filter effectiveness, but because it releases ozone. Fairly simple.

Dust sticks to things, we know this. If I stuck a ten-dollar fan in the homes of 90% of these reviewers, I think they'd think it was a fucking miracle cleaner. Every review I read, over and over, bases all evidence of it working on the fact that the blades get dirty. Well, no shit. My TV screen catches dust too.

I gather it is quiet. I gather it moves a tiny amount of air. I don't care how effective it is; and I don't believe it is at all. But, that nonwithstanding, if you read up on air cleaners, you find that to seriously clean the air in a room, you have to turn the air in that room over (filter ALL of it) several times an hour. This is because you're house is not air tight, and it's continiously being filled with dust. Literally, as soon as you get the dust out, more is being introduced. To effectively filter a home, you'd be looking at a whole house filter on the HVAC unit, and HEPA or ULPA filters in EACH room, all running continously. Most people are just looking to do one room. You still have a lot of cubic feet of air to filter. The Ionic Breeze slowly wafts a few cubic feet through itself. Numbers? Data? Not provided by the sharper image. You're just supposed to believe it works.

There are filters out there that are certifed to work. There is no guesswork, there is an organization that sets standards. The filters are tested to meet the standards. How well they meet the standard, and an explaination of that standard, are published. HEPA is the name of that. The Ionic Breeze is not certified to do shit. You're just supposed to believe. If you do, more power to you.

I have 2 HEPA air filters. Over 4 years I'll spend more on them then the Ionic Breeze. But, I'll have clean air, and I don't have to clean the damn things every week.

Your call.


About.com
Has some pretty handy information on how to buy an air cleaner.

Best thing I can tell you to keep in mind is this: Buy the biggest damn filter you can afford, with the highest efficiency.
1) Air cleaners are rated with the fan on "Hi." Most people run them at "low" or roughly 1/4 speed. Obviously, this affects how well it cleans. Don't blame the filter if it's rated to clean your room at max speed and you run it at 1/4 that.

2)Just don't buy a cheap POS, okay? You get what you pay for with these things.

(OH, and by the way, Operating rooms, bilogical labs, etc, they don't use anything REMOTELY resebling and Ionic POS. They use HEPA and/or ULPA filters. That might mean something.)



*EDIT*
Well, shit, you already bought one. Don't I feel silly.

Sorry about your luck pal.

dtheriault 12-21-2004 02:45 AM

I did a ton of research on this and talked myself out of buying all of the ionizer/ozone type filters. There's tons of scientific research that basically points out that ozone is bad for your lungs. If you can taste that metallic taste on the back of your tongue you're tasting death.

But it does kill odors.

cyrnel 12-21-2004 08:14 AM

NOW you guys chime in. Yep, I took it back last night after deciding it was a careless impulse buy. Hadn't researched it at all, just saw the $149 tag & thought it was worth a try.

Good links & thoughts. Thanks all. Those would have sped my recovery.

What killed it for me:
-Hated the ozone odor.
-It moved about half the air as my Honeywell HEPA on low.
-It let smoke through (half my heat is from a fireplace), the HEPA doesn't, so combined with the airflow it's an expensive paperweight.

Lesson learned.

Jim Kata 12-22-2004 12:50 PM

I have severe cat allergies and two cats (don't ask). Ever since I have had my Ionic Breeze they (my allergies) haven't bothered me. Take that how you want....just my $0.02.


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