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Derwood · 03-29-2004, 02:11 PM

I downloaded Mozilla because everyone raved about it being better than IE. The tabbing is cool and all, but I'll be damned if this thing doesn't freeze up every 15 minutes. Plus it runs java REALLY slow and I needed to download plugins left and right. Hardly worth it.

Redlemon · 03-29-2004, 02:23 PM

Hmm. Do you want help, or are you done with Moz entirely and are just expressing your opinion?

Derwood · 03-29-2004, 02:52 PM

help i guess

Redlemon · 03-29-2004, 02:54 PM

(I won't be here much longer today, but...)

Mozilla or Mozilla Firefox?
Which version?
What operating system?

soccerchamp76 · 03-29-2004, 03:30 PM

I tried out Firefox for the same reasons, everyone praising it but I got fed up with it and went back to IE. I never had problems with IE before so I was going on the praise of others. It never lived up to its hype.

billege · 03-29-2004, 03:55 PM

In SecretMethod's firefox thread I have a question that I still need help on, if anyone has any ideas.

flamingpeach · 03-29-2004, 04:16 PM

I use firefox on both my PC and my Mac.

I love firefox for PC, but its terrible for the mac. REALLY buggy, crashes all the time. Ignores me when i attempt to close a java script popup (such as the new PM ones). The address window doesn't update, i can't seem to get links to open in new tabs...its terrible

But yeah, its my favorite browser ever for PC

redarrow · 03-29-2004, 05:21 PM

I use opera.

http://www.opera.com/

IE is also great, but I like the tabs and the progress of pages loading. Plus you dont have to type the www or .com.
Never tried Firefox before.

Derwood · 03-29-2004, 06:22 PM

I have Mozilla 1.4
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

Windows ME.

bltzkriegmcanon · 03-29-2004, 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by Derwood

Windows ME.

Sorry, bud I think that's your problem right there.

God of Thunder · 03-29-2004, 07:27 PM

I agree ME is your problem.

ME was the buggiest of all of the Micro$haft OS's.

I have used Mozilla for the past 2 years on my home workstation, laptop and 2 work PCs and have not had a single issue. The 2 home PCs use Win2k and the work ones use XP pro.

Fallon · 03-29-2004, 08:09 PM

Now someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but Firefox still has not had an offical release as they are still working on it. I personally use Mozilla 1.6 and I love it. The only problem I have it are with external app's loading, but that's because I'm to lazy to configure the couple lines.
I was going to try Firefox, but I wanted something that was more stable, so I got 1.6 and I liked some of the themes in 1.6 better.

Date the Banana · 03-29-2004, 08:16 PM

what's the skinny on the avaunt slimbrowser? I have it, and I love it; no pop-ups, tabbed browsing, all the goodies. Why is there never mention of it whenever browser threads come up?

sailor · 03-29-2004, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by Fallon
Now someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but Firefox still has not had an offical release as they are still working on it. I personally use Mozilla 1.6 and I love it. The only problem I have it are with external app's loading, but that's because I'm to lazy to configure the couple lines.
I was going to try Firefox, but I wanted something that was more stable, so I got 1.6 and I liked some of the themes in 1.6 better.

That is correct. Firefox is still in a beta stage, and has not had an "official" release--that will not come until release 1.0 (it is currently at 0.8). It is still very stable and usable in my experience, however, and has been since 0.6. I wouldnt recommend it if you *absolutely* need stability, but thats what the normal Mozilla is for, I guess.

billege · 03-30-2004, 06:10 AM

Can someone tell me why occasionally firefox will tell me "The file / cannont be found. Please check the location and try again."

This occurs when I hit a bookmark, that worked ten seconds ago, then it will NOT go to the page of the bookmark. Even if I type in the address, it's a no-go.

I can even google the Fark, the bookmark in question, click the link to it, and I get the error message.

Oh, but it opens fine in IE while firefox is throwing its hissy.

Yes, I opened and closed the fox a few times. No good.
What the hell is that about?

SecretMethod70 · 03-30-2004, 07:24 AM

Odd, probably a bug of some sort. a.k.a. don't forget what sailor posted above

Anyways, it's always good to be proactive and <a href="http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided">Submit a Bug</a> when you come across one!

Redlemon · 03-30-2004, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by billege
Can someone tell me why occasionally firefox will tell me "The file / cannont be found. Please check the location and try again."

Something wacky regarding the cache files. I've never had this problem, because I already had the workaround in my setup:

Quote:

in "about:config", change browser.cache.check_doc_frequency to 1

This sets FFx to check for a new page every time you load a new page, rather than trusting the expire date in the cache.

For further reading:
Major Bug!!!! "The file / cannot be found" - MozillaZine Forums
Bug 123662 - "File / cannot be found. Please check the location and try again" when loading page

Redlemon · 03-30-2004, 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by Derwood
I have Mozilla 1.4

Any reason you are all the way back there at 1.4? At the very least download Moz 1.6. Or, Moz 1.7 just reached beta. Personally, I'm on the Firefox nightlies (0.8+, based on the Moz 1.7 builds).

Redlemon · 03-30-2004, 09:28 AM

from the other thread...

Quote:

Originally posted by billege
When I open multiple tabs, say when I'm browsing the TB, the whole computer gets very, very slow. Also, it takes forever to get the tab to change. Bits and pieces of the current tab's display will slowly become overwritten with the newly selected tab's stuff until the screen finally swaps tabs. It does this much more with graphics than text. Tabbing FARK doesn't do this much. However, it's not the CPU load that goes up much. In fact, it'll sit at under 20% but the screen won't catch up.
Furthering my certainty that this is Firefox issue is the fact that I can open dozens of windows in IE and this does not happen. I can open damn near the whole TB in IE and no big deal. If I open even 5 tabs in Firefox, I might as well ctrl+alt+del. Happens even quicker if one of the posts is huge.

Even opening one tab is annoying because for about five seconds while the new tab is loading, in the background, the foreground is frozen. I don't remember this happening at all when I first loaded the fox.

Any ideas?

This has to do with GDI resources, and there are some calls that don't get cleared after they are done. There have been some recent fixes; I suggest you try a nightly (I'm happy with yesterday's 20040329 build) and see if that helps.

Further reading:
Bug 205893 - ImageLib uses GDI handles inappropriately; malicious page can crash mozilla, windows

sailor · 03-30-2004, 11:32 AM

Id also like to echo what others said and check the buglist if you come across something. At the least it will let you know if it is something the developers know about. I had a bug back in 0.6 that caused the browser to crash whenever it read a list. I reported the bug, found that there were several other reports of said bug, and got an email when they found and fixed the bug. It was a nice experience, one that I would repeat--except I havent found another bug since

billege · 03-30-2004, 03:31 PM

How does one do the nightlies? Thanks.

SecretMethod70 · 03-30-2004, 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by billege
How does one do the nightlies? Thanks.

Not sure cause I don't, but it should be said that While pre-1.0 versions are technically "beta"....nightlies are even lower. So, while they may contain bugfixes, they may contain new bugs too.

Redlemon · 03-31-2004, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by billege
How does one do the nightlies? Thanks.

The latest release is always available here:
Index of /pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk

I recommend visiting the following forum page first, where a guy named Peter(6) puts up a nice recap of the current Windows build, detailing the fixes and regressions contained in that build. His thread will also have a link to that nightly build.
Firefox Builds - MozillaZine Forums

New windows builds are generally released between noon and 1 pm EST. The Peter(6) thread will let you know if people are noticing any new wonky problems.

The 20030331 build may have something wrong with it, based on this thread; I'm personally having no problems with the 20030330.

03-29-2004, 02:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	Mozilla=glitchiest browser ever I downloaded Mozilla because everyone raved about it being better than IE. The tabbing is cool and all, but I'll be damned if this thing doesn't freeze up every 15 minutes. Plus it runs java REALLY slow and I needed to download plugins left and right. Hardly worth it. __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

03-29-2004, 02:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	Hmm. Do you want help, or are you done with Moz entirely and are just expressing your opinion? __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

03-29-2004, 02:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	help i guess __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

03-29-2004, 02:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
Redlemon Devoted Donor Location: New England	(I won't be here much longer today, but...) Mozilla or Mozilla Firefox? Which version? What operating system? __________________ I can't read your signature. Sorry.

03-29-2004, 03:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
soccerchamp76 Go Cardinals Location: St. Louis/Cincinnati	I tried out Firefox for the same reasons, everyone praising it but I got fed up with it and went back to IE. I never had problems with IE before so I was going on the praise of others. It never lived up to its hype. __________________ Brian Griffin: Ah, if my memory serves me, this is the physics department. Chris Griffin: That would explain all the gravity.

03-29-2004, 03:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
billege Watcher Location: Ohio	In SecretMethod's firefox thread I have a question that I still need help on, if anyone has any ideas. __________________ I can sum up the clash of religion in one sentence: "My Invisible Friend is better than your Invisible Friend."

03-29-2004, 04:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
flamingpeach hip mama Location: redmond, washington	I use firefox on both my PC and my Mac. I love firefox for PC, but its terrible for the mac. REALLY buggy, crashes all the time. Ignores me when i attempt to close a java script popup (such as the new PM ones). The address window doesn't update, i can't seem to get links to open in new tabs...its terrible But yeah, its my favorite browser ever for PC __________________ I've eaten my veggies all my life so bring it on, I am educated and strong for the revolution.

03-29-2004, 05:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
redarrow Banned Location: i gotta go	I use opera. http://www.opera.com/ IE is also great, but I like the tabs and the progress of pages loading. Plus you dont have to type the www or .com. Never tried Firefox before.

03-29-2004, 06:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	I have Mozilla 1.4 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Windows ME. __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

03-29-2004, 07:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
God of Thunder Talk nerdy to me Location: Flint, MI	I agree ME is your problem. ME was the buggiest of all of the Micro$haft OS's. I have used Mozilla for the past 2 years on my home workstation, laptop and 2 work PCs and have not had a single issue. The 2 home PCs use Win2k and the work ones use XP pro. __________________ I reject your reality, and substitute my own -- Adam Savage

03-29-2004, 08:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
Fallon Junkie Location: RI	Now someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but Firefox still has not had an offical release as they are still working on it. I personally use Mozilla 1.6 and I love it. The only problem I have it are with external app's loading, but that's because I'm to lazy to configure the couple lines. I was going to try Firefox, but I wanted something that was more stable, so I got 1.6 and I liked some of the themes in 1.6 better.

03-29-2004, 08:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
Date the Banana Insane Location: Japan	what's the skinny on the avaunt slimbrowser? I have it, and I love it; no pop-ups, tabbed browsing, all the goodies. Why is there never mention of it whenever browser threads come up? __________________ all work and no play make Date something something

03-30-2004, 06:10 AM	#15 (permalink)
billege Watcher Location: Ohio	Can someone tell me why occasionally firefox will tell me "The file / cannont be found. Please check the location and try again." This occurs when I hit a bookmark, that worked ten seconds ago, then it will NOT go to the page of the bookmark. Even if I type in the address, it's a no-go. I can even google the Fark, the bookmark in question, click the link to it, and I get the error message. Oh, but it opens fine in IE while firefox is throwing its hissy. Yes, I opened and closed the fox a few times. No good. What the hell is that about? __________________ I can sum up the clash of religion in one sentence: "My Invisible Friend is better than your Invisible Friend." Last edited by billege; 03-30-2004 at 06:12 AM..

03-30-2004, 07:24 AM	#16 (permalink)
SecretMethod70 Human Administrator Location: Chicago	Odd, probably a bug of some sort. a.k.a. don't forget what sailor posted above Anyways, it's always good to be proactive and <a href="http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided">Submit a Bug</a> when you come across one! __________________ Le temps détruit tout "Musicians are the carriers and communicators of spirit in the most immediate sense." - Kurt Elling Last edited by SecretMethod70; 03-30-2004 at 07:26 AM..

03-30-2004, 11:32 AM	#20 (permalink)
sailor beauty in the breakdown Location: Chapel Hill, NC	Id also like to echo what others said and check the buglist if you come across something. At the least it will let you know if it is something the developers know about. I had a bug back in 0.6 that caused the browser to crash whenever it read a list. I reported the bug, found that there were several other reports of said bug, and got an email when they found and fixed the bug. It was a nice experience, one that I would repeat--except I havent found another bug since __________________ "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." --Plato

03-30-2004, 03:31 PM	#21 (permalink)
billege Watcher Location: Ohio	How does one do the nightlies? Thanks. __________________ I can sum up the clash of religion in one sentence: "My Invisible Friend is better than your Invisible Friend."