MooseMan3000

I just popped in my new graphics card (a BFG 6800 OC), after a fresh format to make sure nothing was holding it back, and I wanted to test it out. I downloaded the newest version of 3DMark 06 and started it up. Here I was expecting smooth(ish) playback, and a respectable score. Instead, I get 0-1 FPS at ALL times and a score of 352 marks. So what gives?

I'm running a P4 2.53 GHz, 533 MHz FSB, 1 GB PC2700 (DDR333), and the 6800. Nothing should be slowing the machine down that much... any thoughts?

cyrnel

Which driver, OS, DirectX? My old 2GHz AMD 64 with 6800 OC didn't do too badly. The driver hasn't been updated in ~6mo. I'll post scores when I get home.

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Dilbert1234567

The latest version of 3dmark always runs terribly, it’s something to shoot for. But if you scored a 352, something sounds wrong.

Make sure you install the latest driver from NVIDIA (84.21). And the latest DirectX. Then try it again.

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cyrnel

My old 128MB Chaintech 6800 OC at standard speed, ForceWare 77.77, in a 2GHz 754 AMD 64:
3DMarks: 1546
SM2.0: 625
HDR/SM3.0: 574
CPU: 752

It measured up fairly well last year but now could really use the extra (faster) memory and 4 pipelines.

Don't expect wonders. It's meant to tax the best systems. It'd be boring for those with $1500 in their video cards if it were easy for us.

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MooseMan3000

Yeah, tell me about it.


I've got the newest ForceWare, though I haven't updated DirectX since I formatted. I'll try that when I get back from work today.

Dilbert1234567

if your not running directX 9, thats your problem, upgrade to the latest and that will hopefully clear it all up.

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cyrnel

Run dxdiag to check versions. The 3dmark06 installer includes 9.0c so you likely already have it.

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MooseMan3000

No, a DirectX update didn't change a thing. I can't even sit through the whole benchmark now. It takes twice as long as it's supposed to, and it never gets above 1 FPS.

I have some free time tonight and tomorrow (what a concept, eh?), so I'm going to actually test its prowess in a few games. We'll see where it goes from there.

cyrnel

Odd.

Which forceware? Which directx? "Newest" can vary depending on the source.

Have you tried a clean install of the drivers? Uninstall Forceware, reboot, reinstall.

What motherboard? Have you toyed with BIOS video settings?

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MooseMan3000

Alright.

By "newest" ForceWare, I meant off of nvidia's website. DirectX was off of Microsoft's website. If you know of a better place for either of those things, let me know, by all means.

Forceware was a clean install, too. I formatted my hard drive, installed Windows, installed drivers. There were no updates, it was the freshest batch from the beginning.

The motherboard is an ASUS P4S8X. I'll take a look at my BIOS settings, though I can't recall anything off hand that could be affecting my machine like it is.

Tonight, however, I think I'm going to put the card to the test in some actual games.

cyrnel

Moose, it's not that version numbers are always critical, but it just saves time. "Latest" may mean the newer 84.25 beta, may mean you're using tweaked NGO/Omega versions, etc. Who knows, there may be a new new release the day after your post throwing relative terms into the weeds. To say nothing about someone coming along in a month to search for the same problem. /endwhine

Unlikely, but make sure DirectX acceleration is enabled for DirectDraw, Direct3D, and AGP Texture Acceleration. I think 3dmark would complain if any weren't.

After that I'd be thinking about the motherboard BIOS and settings again. I notice the ASUS released a BIOS in December of last year. It isn't uncommon for these to address AGP compatibility issues. New video card, 3yr old SiS AGP chipset, ...

Let us know how the games work.

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MooseMan3000

So I've been playing around a little, and it looks like most of the lag and performance issues are from the processor. The graphics card can handle most of the effects that are thrown at it without any trouble, and the hard drive loads new levels/areas nice and fast, but when there's lots of different things being computed at the same time (i.e., lots of enemies attacking all around, lots of objects being thrown/moved) is when it starts to bugger up. The RAM probably isn't helping here, either, as it's relatively slow stuff.

I still can't get 3dMark to reflect my actual performance, though. It still gives identical scores on all 3 categories. Eh, whatever.

portwineboy

Mooseman when I rebuilt my PC last time around I forgot to add some mobo drivers for...(and I can't recall, I'll check tonight and edit) and I wasn't getting AGP4x, I was getting 1x. Did you mobo ship with any weird bus drivers or something like that which might be needing a reinstall after the format?

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djflish

So what is regarded as a good 3DMarks score?

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