Justsomeguy

Let me be the first to laugh at LSU blowing a 21-0 lead in front of their own fans with college football fans around the nation watching.

Not to say things would have been very different with Saban, but watching Miles blow his first big game and home game was exactly what I expected. LSU could and probably should be 0-2 right now. Nevertheless, he blew any shot at a national championship his first home game of the season. I don't like to see LSU lose, but if losing allows them to get rid of that piece of shit coach anytime soon, then so be it. Afterall, ending the season #3 or #8 means shit to most people, and based on the way things are looking early on this season, I think that is the best shot any team with 1 loss will have.

As a side note, I've been a huge supporter of SEC football for a while, but I feel confident in saying that Florida is the only team that may be a real contender this year. However, I don't even think they will have a legitimate shot.

stevo

Alabama will show us what Florida is made of come saturday.

Tennessee and LSU are overrated. The whole SEC is overrated this year.

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Glory's Sun

damn I quit watching this game with like 11 mins left in the 4th.. me and my stupidity

tspikes51

As they are almost every year. I go to Kentucky, and I can't see how everybody here thinks that we are in the toughest conference when the Big Ten is almost always much stronger (and I can't see how anybody can think that UK can win a game against a Div I team, the fans here are the worst). You could make an argument for it being one of the top basketball conferences (prolly not the best, but they're up there), but Florida, Tenn, and maybe LSU are the only annual contenders.

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Glory's Sun

so..

is everyone in agreement that the ACC is the best/toughest conference now?

stevo

With 6 teams ranked in the top 25 week in and week out who could argue?

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Glory's Sun

Big 12 fans will always argue.

Then we have USC. I don't see what all the hype about them is. They play how many good teams during the year? 2? 3 maybe? They have such a cake schedule. Let's hope Virginia Tech can meet up with them eventually.. I have a feeling the trojans may not be so happy after that game.

marz

We'll see how good they(USC) are this weekend. They play a very good Arizona State team.

stevo

Sure, the big12 can argue. and some of their teams (*cough* Texas) are undoubtedly elite, as CFB goes. but to say the conference as a whole is stronger than the ACC is definitly open to debate.

I don't think USC will even make it to the Rose bowl. They will loose at least one game this year, if not 2. VT has no free pass there either.

But I know how the big12-ACC question can be answered. I'd love to see a Longhorn-Seminole battle in Pasedena in January.

One game at a time though.

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Glory's Sun

man I'd cream if I got to see Texas vs FSU. I'm an FSU fan but I have an affection for UT also.

I just don't think Texas will beat OK. I really don't..they always choke.

tspikes51

The big thing about USC is that they have a team with only a few changes from last year's championship run. They have the experience of being the top. A great deal of the top teams have either blown their chance by now (Ohio St., Michigan, LSU, Louisville) or have come really close (Texas). For a predictable game like college football, this year is really exciting.

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aswo

Good call the whole SEC is always the best conference argument is stupid, as well as besides texas the big 12 sucks as well, the pac 10 acc and big ten are the three best confernces, and this year i will say the acc is the best followed closely by the pac 10

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stevo

Last year USC almost lost several close games and they have a tough schedule ahead. I just don't see it in the cards for them this year. History is against them, no one has ever won 3 national championships in a row and gone undefeated for so many years. Is it possible? yes, is it probable? I don't think so. One thing is for sure though, this is a great year for college football and definately worth waiting 8 months for. Saturday is almost here!

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Justsomeguy

Alabama really looked good and have a good shot at winning the West.

Anyone see that Prothro injury? Very sad watching a young guy have his career ended like that. My foot was numb for about 30 minutes after watching it happen. I have no problem with the aftermath of an injury but watching it happen is just so damn hard to deal with.

stevo

Missed it. The only game I saw was the FSU-Syracuse game from 18 rows back. No Cable = less fun on saturday.

But who cares about that when Florida was exposed as the Frauds they are. I'm still laughing.

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bond007

USC's offense is one of the best in CFB history. the way they've come back each of the past two weeks... it's almost like they're toying with the opposition.

hopefully, the Domers can give 'em a game.

Glory's Sun

They are not toying with the competition.. they have injuries in their secondary. There's no doubt that USC has a great offense. My main issue is that they don't play anyway.

tspikes51

I can't believe that Tenn is still in the top ten, let alone any SEC team. It's probably the worst major conference this year, and the Vols have lost a game. Their worst team (Kentucky) almost lost to a mediocre Div. 2 team, and their two best teams have both lost a game.

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blakngold4

I can't believe the stuff about the SEC in this topic.

First, a lot of this evaluation turns on what you want from a "best" conference. Do you want a depth of above average teams, or do you want a smaller number of teams who look capable of competing for conference and national titles? I tend to think that a conference is judged by its elite teams, and the SEC wins in that regard. Florida, Tennessee, Bama, LSU, and Georgia all have cases to be in the national title picture. Can that be said of the Pac 10 or Big 10? No. The SEC probably has more strength at the top than any other major conference. The Big 10 has a fair case to be considered alongside the SEC this year, but how can you possibly support the SEC as the WORST major conference? Big East? Pac 10? Big 12? Come on.

Those five teams listed above have only lost to each other, and either Georgia or Tennessee will lose their head-to-head this weekend. You're faulting a conference for its teams losing conference games. How stupid is that? Florida OR Tennessee had to lose. Florida OR Bama had to lose. You would devalue a conference because two highly rated teams played each other early in the year? That's illogical.

I can indulge here some. I think USC's the best team in the country, but match the Pac10 up team for team with the SEC, and please explain how they're better. The SEC has more collective talent than the Pac10 and probably has five teams capable of beating the Pac10's number 2 squad. Heck, LSU even went on the road on short notice and won at Arizona State, and they aren't even going to win their division in the SEC (God willing).

I like the Big 10 this year. I like the Big 10 a lot. Iowa's been a disappointment, Michigan State has been a surprise, Penn State is back, but I think a pick between the Big 10 and SEC turns on what you want. The Big 10 has more bowl-caliber teams, and more competitive games week-to-week. I think the SEC produces more big ticket matchups between current powerhouses.

And the ACC? I'm just not buying. I think VT deserves to be ranked 2nd in the country, but I have pretty powerful doubts about FSU and Miami, and I think those 3 teams are the extent of the conference's elite ranks. The ACC doesn't have the depth at the top that the SEC does, and doesn't have the depth in the middle that the Big 10 does. I'm just not sure what they've done to merit inclusion.

That's because you go to Kentucky. You'd think that losing six conference games a year to real football schools (plus whatever happens against Vandy and some random less significant west opponent) would give you an appreciation for the rest of the conference. The SEC put 4 teams in the BCS Top 15 each of the past 3 years. The Big 10 did it in 2002 and 2003. No one else is in the ballpark. I think that pretty much sums up the strength of both of those conferences relative to the others. Hell, the ACC hasn't placed a team higher than 7th in the BCS for the past 3 years.

One more thing...

Two major points here. First, the rankings from week to week (especially early) are all over the place. In week 3, the Pac 10 had 3 ranked teams. One week later, they had 5. Were they that much better than they were 7 days ago? Doubtful. By the same token, the ACC has two teams ranked 18th or worst. If they drop a game, they're probably out of the poll, leaving FSU, Miami, and VT. Would the ACC suddenly be a shell of its Week 4 self? Again, doubtful.

Second, just to reiterate for everyone: what do you want out of a conference? I look at the ACC and see a lot of good football teams, but only one (two?) potentially great ones. That doesn't appeal to me personally. I'd rather have a few teams capable of dominating like last year's perfect Auburn team (who won 5 games against 9+ win teams) paired with Tennessee, Georgia, and LSU. Yeah, the ACC had 7 teams in the Top 25, but four of them were unstable. The SEC has 5 teams that are virtual locks for the final Top 25, and another team in Auburn that's clearly progressed in the past month. The Big 10, for comparison's sake, doesn't have the clearly defined top tier that the SEC does, but their teams have gone out and shown what they can do moreso than the ACC. Ohio State lost to Texas, but played a helluva game. Michigan's a formidable foe with Michael Hart involved. Michigan State has surprised people, and even Penn State looks dangerous right now (I'm skeptical but whatever).

I write all of this not because I think the SEC is the best conference in America (I'd vote for the Big 10 if pressed) or because they have the best team in America (Southern Cal, with apologies to VT and Texas), but because they have the depth of teams year in and year out that no other conference has, except possibly the Big 10. THAT is what's special about the SEC.

blakngold4

This comment makes me question your football knowledge. First, they weren't D-2, they were 1-aa. Big difference. Second, how can you fault Kentucky for "almost losing" (they won by 12 and trailed for all of 15 seconds in the last quarter and a half) when Stanford ACTUALLY lost to a 1-aa school, Duke got beat by East Carolina (a D1A doormat for several years), Oklahoma State sputtered against Montana State and Arkansas State, and Indiana had to squeak by a directional Michigan and Nichols State or something like that?

The point is: I can go around the country and embarass just about every conference with some team or some game they want to pretend doesn't exist. Are your Wildcats going to lose by 40 points to Georgia, Tennessee, and Florida this year? Yes. Does UK's mere presence in the conference render those 3 (and Bama and LSU) unfit to pursue a title? Hell no.

in the words of Louis Black, I'm going to repeat this, because it bears repeating...you can't fault the conference for playing conference games early in the year. Tennessee already lost? oh noes!!!11!! Florida beat them. Florida lost. Who beat them? Bama. You don't see people ripping the ACC for Miami having a loss and being in the Top 10. Why? Because they lost to another elite team. Copy that for Ohio State losing to Texas too. I think if you look at the talent and coaching on the majority of the Top 10, who they've played, and how they've done, you'll see that it's a pretty fair guess at the best teams in the country. Now that some games have actually been played, the teams that are there are there for (mostly) legitimate reasons.

Lwang9276

hmm about USC i think they ahve a big game this weekend... if they win then the next big games are UCLA and Cal but yea i would love to see USC vs Texas... that be a nice matchup!!