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JoeyB · 02-16-2004, 09:01 PM

How would you feel if Greg Maddux signed with New York? (As reported by WABC and ESPN)

I don't think he's playing second base, but I'll guess he'll make a nice 3rd or 4th starter.

For the record, G.M. Brian Cashman has denied any interest in the former Cy Young winner

thephuse · 02-16-2004, 09:26 PM

hahaha

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1736923

here we go w/ the link

djtestudo · 02-16-2004, 10:09 PM

Alright. It'll be nice seeing Brown on the DL, Vasquez imploding from the pressure, AND Maddox 1-6 with a 6 ERA adjusting to the AL. Not to mention Contraras (insert own scenario here...it doesn't matter what, it could happen).

Jadey · 02-16-2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by djtestudo
Alright. It'll be nice seeing Brown on the DL, Vasquez imploding from the pressure, AND Maddox 1-6 with a 6 ERA adjusting to the AL. Not to mention Contraras (insert own scenario here...it doesn't matter what, it could happen).

DJ, we can only HOPE!

Kurant · 02-17-2004, 06:30 AM

Maddux is not signing with the Yankees, Cashman said this mornign on ESPN radio that the Yankees have had no communication with him what-so-ever, and that a deal hasen't been talked about, and the Yankees have absolutley no intrest in the right-hander for the amount of money the Giants/Card and Cubs are throwing at him.

I can't wait till next season when the Yankers toss out about 75m in luxury tax, it'll be great.

Nice offseason, the pitching is still weak and old, but with a lineup like that, who needs pitching, a 3 year old could throw the ball.

JoeyB · 02-17-2004, 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by djtestudo
Alright. It'll be nice seeing Brown on the DL, Vasquez imploding from the pressure, AND Maddox 1-6 with a 6 ERA adjusting to the AL. Not to mention Contraras (insert own scenario here...it doesn't matter what, it could happen).

Yes, all of this COULD happen.

Would you rather a team not even try and assemble a lineup with mediocre players and see if they COULD win???

I would much rather support a team who is willing to do whatever it takes to win and not rely on what COULD happen. These moves give them a better chance to win. I don't see what's wrong with that.

Sure, there's a risk. There always is.

Mondak · 02-17-2004, 07:35 AM

We will sign El Duque and be right as rain.

Maddux is out and I am glad.

djtestudo · 02-17-2004, 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by Mondak
We will sign El Duque and be right as rain.

Yeah...acid rain

clifclav · 02-17-2004, 09:13 AM

I can hear Torre's speech now: alright Greg all you need to do is keep them under 9 runs.

johnsmith · 02-17-2004, 10:13 AM

This is starting to get ridiculous. Why does anyone else even bother? I know that they haven't won in three years, but they average one every 4 years.

Hrothgar · 02-17-2004, 10:39 AM

I hope the Yankees payroll gets to $300 million soon. The ridiculousness of it all is hurting baseball and something will be done soon if the trend continues.

aswo · 02-17-2004, 11:49 AM

It has to be the most unfair advantage in the history of professional sports, New york will spend in one month more in salary then the entire Brewers team will spend in a full season.

JoeyB · 02-17-2004, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by aswo
It has to be the most unfair advantage in the history of professional sports, New york will spend in one month more in salary then the entire Brewers team will spend in a full season.

Both sides are equally wrong. While people complain about the free spenders, the next sentence should then criticize those who have gutted their teams of any talent and haven't improved in 20 years.

fishboy_250 · 02-17-2004, 12:54 PM

Not at all a Yanks hater... Money isn't everything, look at the Florida Marlins handing everyone their asses last season. $48 million opposed to about $164 mil. Josh Beckett gave Steinbrenner the nice FU in game 7, go figure. I'm not sure why he picked up A-Rod (sure is a nice slap in the face to John Henry and the Red Sox, though) when what they really need to beef up is their pitching staff. . I agree with whomover (I forget) said it on ESPN, what's A-Rod going to do? They'll win 9-0 instead of 8-0 on a good day and if the Yanks don't win the series...

jasonresno · 02-17-2004, 02:02 PM

I love Yankee haters, they are so malicious in their intent to make fun of a good team..it is funny and some times quite sad.

jasonresno · 02-17-2004, 02:04 PM

Sorry to double post, but there is nothing wrong with their pitching staff.

Lieber, Moussina, Brown, Vasquez, Rivera are as good as anyone, and better than some.

thephuse · 02-17-2004, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by Kurant
I can't wait till next season when the Yankers toss out about 75m in luxury tax, it'll be great.

And still make a major profit.. you're rite.. it'll be great.. cuz us NYers support our team, even in the 90's when they werent so "hot".

Also.. the only reason other teams dont spend money is cuz the owners really dont want to. They want to make profits and get by w/ minimum salary. George is one of the few owners that loves his team and actually uses his own money. You dont think these other owners can afford big-name players?.. please..

djtestudo · 02-17-2004, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by jasonresno
Sorry to double post, but there is nothing wrong with their pitching staff.

Lieber, Moussina, Brown, Vasquez, Rivera are as good as anyone, and better than some.

Mussina is the only solid pitcher there.

Lieber is coming off TJ surgury, and those pitchers tend to struggle their first year back.

Brown has always had injury problems, last year being an abberation. With that injury history, plus him being 38, I'd bet money that he's on the DL for a decent part of the year.

Vasquez is a solid young starter coming from a city with little media exposure and was highly sought after. *COUGH* JEFF WEAVER*COUGH*

Rivera is WAY overdue for a bad year, and is getting old himself.

djtestudo · 02-17-2004, 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by thephuse
And still make a major profit.. you're rite.. it'll be great.. cuz us NYers support our team, even in the 90's when they werent so "hot".

Also.. the only reason other teams dont spend money is cuz the owners really dont want to. They want to make profits and get by w/ minimum salary. George is one of the few owners that loves his team and actually uses his own money. You dont think these other owners can afford big-name players?.. please..

Hehehehe...I've heard a lot of stories about Yankee games in the late '80s where attendence was obscenely low.

The attendence picked up once people saw Steinbrenner listening to people other then the voices in his head and the team began to improve.

wrongfullyaccuzd · 02-20-2004, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by djtestudo
Rivera is WAY overdue for a bad year, and is getting old himself.

Do you actually see any real reasons for him to have a bad year?

JoeyB · 02-20-2004, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by wrongfullyaccuzd
Do you actually see any real reasons for him to have a bad year?

He's had some injury problems in the past and he's been less than invincible in the past few years compared to when he first jumped on the scene.

Plus, no power closer has lasted more than a couple of years. The elbow or shoulder leaves them long before the player was ready to go.

Mariano hasn't given concrete reasons to expect a fall, but past history with relievers has shown that it's usually a quick career.

Unless he develops a knuckleball.

02-16-2004, 09:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
JoeyB feeling tingly	Hey Yankee Haters... How would you feel if Greg Maddux signed with New York? (As reported by WABC and ESPN) I don't think he's playing second base, but I'll guess he'll make a nice 3rd or 4th starter. For the record, G.M. Brian Cashman has denied any interest in the former Cy Young winner __________________ My mom is a Diamondbacks fan. She really likes the Big Unit

02-16-2004, 09:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
thephuse Psycho Location: NY	hahaha http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1736923 here we go w/ the link __________________ b000yahed up your w000pah!! Joygasm~!!

02-16-2004, 10:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	Alright. It'll be nice seeing Brown on the DL, Vasquez imploding from the pressure, AND Maddox 1-6 with a 6 ERA adjusting to the AL. Not to mention Contraras (insert own scenario here...it doesn't matter what, it could happen). __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

02-17-2004, 07:35 AM	#7 (permalink)
Mondak Industrialist Location: Southern California	We will sign El Duque and be right as rain. Maddux is out and I am glad. __________________ All truth passes through three stages: First it is ridiculed Second, it is violently opposed and Third, it is accepted as self-evident. ARTHUR SCHOPENHAUER (1788-1860)

02-17-2004, 09:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
clifclav absolute relativist Location: D.C.	I can hear Torre's speech now: alright Greg all you need to do is keep them under 9 runs. __________________ Neither rain , nor cold, nor dark of night shall.......ahh whatever, just get me a beer!

02-17-2004, 06:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kurant Junkie Location: Don't worry about it.	Maddux is not signing with the Yankees, Cashman said this mornign on ESPN radio that the Yankees have had no communication with him what-so-ever, and that a deal hasen't been talked about, and the Yankees have absolutley no intrest in the right-hander for the amount of money the Giants/Card and Cubs are throwing at him. I can't wait till next season when the Yankers toss out about 75m in luxury tax, it'll be great. Nice offseason, the pitching is still weak and old, but with a lineup like that, who needs pitching, a 3 year old could throw the ball.

02-17-2004, 10:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
johnsmith Tilted Location: the Midwest	This is starting to get ridiculous. Why does anyone else even bother? I know that they haven't won in three years, but they average one every 4 years.

02-17-2004, 10:39 AM	#11 (permalink)
Hrothgar He's My Girl Location: The Champagne Douche	I hope the Yankees payroll gets to $300 million soon. The ridiculousness of it all is hurting baseball and something will be done soon if the trend continues. __________________ The fortunes of war favored Hrothgar. Last edited by Hrothgar; 02-17-2004 at 10:43 AM..

02-17-2004, 11:49 AM	#12 (permalink)
aswo Crazy	It has to be the most unfair advantage in the history of professional sports, New york will spend in one month more in salary then the entire Brewers team will spend in a full season. __________________ People who love people

02-17-2004, 12:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
fishboy_250 Upright	Not at all a Yanks hater... Money isn't everything, look at the Florida Marlins handing everyone their asses last season. $48 million opposed to about $164 mil. Josh Beckett gave Steinbrenner the nice FU in game 7, go figure. I'm not sure why he picked up A-Rod (sure is a nice slap in the face to John Henry and the Red Sox, though) when what they really need to beef up is their pitching staff. . I agree with whomover (I forget) said it on ESPN, what's A-Rod going to do? They'll win 9-0 instead of 8-0 on a good day and if the Yanks don't win the series...

02-17-2004, 02:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
jasonresno Banned	I love Yankee haters, they are so malicious in their intent to make fun of a good team..it is funny and some times quite sad.

02-17-2004, 02:04 PM	#16 (permalink)
jasonresno Banned	Sorry to double post, but there is nothing wrong with their pitching staff. Lieber, Moussina, Brown, Vasquez, Rivera are as good as anyone, and better than some.