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Old 09-01-2003, 05:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Steeler shot in the ass!

This is very disturbing to me, being a Ravens fan who plays Pittsburg this week in the opening game of the season.


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Old 09-01-2003, 07:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This is very disturbing to me, being a Ravens fan who plays Pittsburg this week in the opening game of the season.
You're just mad it wasn't Ray Lewis who shot him!!!!!

They're saying now it might be gang-related. I hope not, Porter was a pretty good guy who didn't seem to be much of a troublemaker.
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Old 09-01-2003, 07:52 PM   #3 (permalink)
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While the injury is not career threatening, think of the trash talk he's gonna get now from the other teams.
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Old 09-01-2003, 08:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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You're just mad it wasn't Ray Lewis who shot him!!!!!
Aww snap...I didn't see NOTHIN'!

All I can say now is that Pittsburgh doesn't have a secondary OR a decent LB corps now.

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Old 09-01-2003, 10:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Steelers Struggle With Porter Shooting

PITTSBURGH (AP) -- The Pittsburgh Steelers tried to put on the appearance that Monday was like any other day of practice. Obviously, it wasn't.

Players huddled in groups of two and three in the locker room, talking quietly, the verbal by-play that normally precedes every practice noticeably absent. There was no laughter, no cross-the-room yelling about the past weekend's college scores. Clearly, someone was missing - someone important.

No one went near Joey Porter's locker, often the gathering spot for the defense and the noisiest area in an almost never quiet room. The Steelers know the All-Pro linebacker and their vocal leader will play again but they don't know when, and they are still struggling with the news that he was shot over the weekend.

"It was a tragic incident," Pro Bowl receiver Hines Ward said. "We're handling it as it comes and hopefully get a better chance of understanding it when Joey gets back."

Porter was standing outside a Denver sports bar following Saturday night's game between his alma mater, Colorado State, and rival Colorado when he was struck by a bullet that entered his left buttocks and lodged in his right thigh. Police say he was an innocent bystander during what may have been a gang-related shooting.

The injury is not career-threatening, but will sideline him for an indefinite period. Porter was released Monday from a Denver hospital and flew back to Pittsburgh to be examined by the Steelers' doctors.

"He was very frightened," said Sonny Lubick, Porter's coach at Colorado State. "It could have been a lot worse. According to the doctors he was very, very fortunate."

The Steelers aren't ready to estimate how long Porter will be out. However, routine thigh injuries often take up to a month to heal, so it seems likely Porter could miss half the season.

As a result, coach Bill Cowher gathered his players briefly before practice and, as he does before every season, stressed the importance of staying out of situations that could jeopardize their safety. The bar where Porter was shot is located in a high-crime area of Denver.

"This is the last thing you would expect to be handling right now, but the season is going to go on," linebacker Jason Gildon said. "We're expecting big things out of our defense and our team, and we can't let this be a step back for us."

After going through training camp without a serious injury to a top player, the Steelers are scrambling to reconfigure their defense less than a week before Sunday's opener against Baltimore.

Porter will be replaced at right outside linebacker in the base defense by Clark Haggans, his former roommate and teammate at Colorado State.

"Losing a guy like Joey, that's a huge blow to our defense, but I think the defense is going to rally around this," Ward said. "You can't replace a Joey Porter, of course, but Clark can go out there and be a productive linebacker. I thought he had a great training camp."

Haggans also attended the Colorado State-Colorado game, but would not say Monday if he was with Porter at the time of the shooting. Before Haggans left Denver, Porter told him to make certain the defense was not disrupted.

"He told me to go out and play hard, that we've got to move forward," Haggans said. "But he's upset about everything. He's really into the upcoming game and he wants everybody to play hard."

This isn't the first time the Steelers have lost their top defensive player to injury just when a season was starting. Star cornerback Rod Woodson blew out a knee trying to tackle Detroit's Barry Sanders in the 1995 season opener and missed the rest of the season, but the Steelers went on to make the Super Bowl.

Earlier that year, cornerback Deon Figures was shot in the knee during a random shooting while driving his car in Los Angeles, an injury that likely shortened his career.

"Right now, we're short a man and we're going to have to step up across the board," Gildon said. "We're down a man, a key man, and it's like we have no room for error."

Porter made the Pro Bowl and was an All-Pro for the first time last season, when he and Ward were chosen as the team's co-MVPs. Porter was the first player in NFL history to have eight sacks and four interceptions in a season.
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Old 09-02-2003, 06:20 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Browns fans are working to arrange for about 3 more Steeler gunshot injuries. Whatever it takes to win the division.

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Old 09-02-2003, 02:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Glad to know they want to assist the Ravens that much...
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Old 09-02-2003, 06:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Re: Steeler shot in the ass!

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You're just mad it wasn't Ray Lewis who shot him!!!!!

They're saying now it might be gang-related. I hope not, Porter was a pretty good guy who didn't seem to be much of a troublemaker.
Doesn't really matter to me who shot him, I'm just disappointed none of his teammates got hit too.
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Old 09-03-2003, 11:03 AM   #9 (permalink)
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porter, only player in nfl history to have 8 sacks and 4 ints in the same season... all pro linebacker...
sigh, the steelers D will suffer accordingly with him gone. but they will still dominate the ravens opening week.
ill be waving my terrible towel!
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Old 09-03-2003, 11:37 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Damn u guys are heartless, a guy gets shot and u make jokes about it? WTF?!
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Old 09-03-2003, 04:47 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Seriously. If someone shot you in the ass,would you be joking about it?

Respect. That's where it's at.
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Old 09-03-2003, 06:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Seriously. If someone shot you in the ass,would you be joking about it?

Respect. That's where it's at.
Most likely, if I wasn't dead I would try to find the humor in it. They say laughter is the best medicine, after all. Lighten up.
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Old 09-04-2003, 06:43 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I concur with crewsor.

One question though. How the hell does one become a Raven fan? Aren't you afraid Modell will move the team again? Don't you feel like the team is still stolen merchandise? Isn't there something just not right about it?

It still hurts out here in Ohio.

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Old 09-04-2003, 09:01 AM   #14 (permalink)
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First, he only moved the team because Cleveland gave the Indians and Cavaliers new facilities but refused Modell's plans.

Second, Baltimore had the Colts stolen in an even worse way, and along with St. Louis were completely screwed over by Tagliabue in the 1993 expansion. We didn't want a stolen team, but when one came to us, we took it.

Third, this is Modell's last year as majority owner before he sells most of his remaining interest in the team to local man Steve Bisciotti.

He always mentions one fact whenever he talks about the move from Cleveland: he took the organization, but left the team. The colors, logos, records, etc. were left in Cleveland so they could recieve another team and keep the Browns traditions alive. Most peopel forget that. If he hadn't, the Baltimore Browns would've won the Super Bowl, and you'd be cheering for the Burning Lakes or something.
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Old 09-04-2003, 11:33 AM   #15 (permalink)
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All I can say now is that Pittsburgh doesn't have a secondary OR a decent LB corps now.
What? Did you forget about Jason Gildon and Kendrell Bell? Gildon leads all LB in sacks since 1999 with 34.5 and Kendrell Bell was the Defensive Rookie of the Year two years ago. James Farrior is no slouch, either, recording 145 tackles two years ago. Even without Porter, they still probably have the best LB in the league.

They don't have a secondary, though. You are correct there.
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Old 09-04-2003, 05:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Re: Steeler shot in the ass!

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You're just mad it wasn't Ray Lewis who shot him!!!!!
You say that as if it wasn't a possibility.
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Old 09-05-2003, 12:09 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Do the Steelers need a defense this week... I mean they are only playing the Ravens...
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Old 09-05-2003, 03:14 PM   #18 (permalink)
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...who have a healthy Jamal Lewis, who has Zerowie's speed and agility with Bettis' strength and power.

Who also have three good recievers and a quarterback that can throw farther then 10 yards, which brings the oft-repeated lack of a secondary into play.

Also, it would be nice for Pittsburgh fans if they played a little D, 'cause their offense will be going nowhere on the Ravens D.
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Old 09-05-2003, 05:11 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 09-05-2003, 06:45 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I concur with crewsor.

One question though. How the hell does one become a Raven fan? Aren't you afraid Modell will move the team again? Don't you feel like the team is still stolen merchandise? Isn't there something just not right about it?

It still hurts out here in Ohio.

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After losing the Colts, not just the players but the name, logo and history, I know how Browns fans felt when their team was taken.

However their team essentially remains at this point. They have their original team name, history, and a new stadium to boot.

I think its about time the people of Cleveland quit holding a grudge because they fared far better than the people of Baltimore did at the hands of the NFL.

The Ravens are Baltimores team, the Browns are Clevelands team. End of story, get over it.

As far as Modell moving the team, next year Biscotti will puchase the remaining 51% of the team and Modell will be out completely so its not a concern..
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Old 09-07-2003, 05:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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"He always mentions one fact whenever he talks about the move from Cleveland: he took the organization, but left the team. The colors, logos, records, etc. were left in Cleveland so they could recieve another team and keep the Browns traditions alive."


you say that as if Modell did it of his own free will. he did not. he was forced to leave that stuff behind.
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Old 09-07-2003, 08:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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No he wasn't. He was as forced to leave that stuff behind as Robert Irsay, Al Davis, Bill Bidwell, etc. had been.
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dj, you should do you homework. Modell WAS forced to leave the name and team colors behind as a result of a class action lawsuit filed by season ticket holders in Cleveland.

"When Cleveland Browns owner Art Modell was negotiating with Maryland officials in 1995 for a new home for the football team, mayor Michael R. White spoke defiantly: "The Cleveland Browns are ours. Keep your hands off, any other city in America." It turned out he was right. Season-ticket holders brought a class-action suit against Modell to recover damages. While the suit was thrown out of Cuyahoga Common Pleas court, it was allowed to go forward after being heard in the 8th Ohio District Court of Appeals. Damages were not recoverable, but Cleveland kept the Browns name and, of course, was awarded an expansion franchise that started play in 1999."

had that suit not happened, I guarantee that you would now be rooting for the Baltimore Browns, not the Ravens.
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Old 09-08-2003, 03:17 AM   #24 (permalink)
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see, I knew the STeelers didn't need a healthy Porter to stop the Ravens ;-)
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Old 09-08-2003, 08:07 AM   #25 (permalink)
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No, they needed bad play by our D.
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...who have a healthy Jamal Lewis, who has Zerowie's speed and agility with Bettis' strength and power.

Who also have three good recievers and a quarterback that can throw farther then 10 yards, which brings the oft-repeated lack of a secondary into play.

Also, it would be nice for Pittsburgh fans if they played a little D, 'cause their offense will be going nowhere on the Ravens D.
things that make you go .. hmm.

yes, boller can throw farther than 10 yards. that one he threw to kendrell bell looked real good.
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*cough*Kansas City's gonna kick your ass*cough*
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*cough*Kansas City's gonna kick your ass*cough*
kick our ass? hardly. this one should dominate the highlight reels. its gonna be a barnburner, arenaball style: all O, no D.

my prediction: Steelers edge the Chefs 48-45.
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Steelers 42 KC--24
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Old 09-12-2003, 08:28 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Hahaha.

KC actually has a defense this year, and unlike the Ravens, a passing game with their fantastic running attack.

KC 42, Pittsburgh 31
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