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Konichiwaneko · 07-08-2003, 09:38 PM

I found what Dusty Bakers said to be true, and think he's right for not buckling under preassure and taking back what he said.

People of darker skin color are darker because...they have more exposure to sunlight. So it's logical to think that they would be more comfortable in being outside in the sun longer then people of lighter skin tones.

Maybe it was wrong to mention race, because even within a race there's varying skin tones. Asians like Koreans and Japanese from the Hokkaido region are very pale compared too Indians and South Indochina.

Point is....I support Dusty.

MikeyChalupa · 07-09-2003, 03:12 AM

I heard this discussion on ESPN radio yesterday. Dusty is taking fire because ANY time you make a generalization (good or bad) about an ethnic group you are going to ruffle some feathers. I think Dusty gets off the hook though since he belongs to that group. It's the situation where it's more accepted to make remarks about your own culture that would not be okay if someone else made them. Say, if a white coach had made the exact same remarks there'd be a much bigger outrage and a call for the guy to get fired.

I remember back in 1988 when Jimmy the Greek, a white CBS sports commentator, got fired for saying that blacks made better athletes, particularly runners and jumpers because they were "bred" to have stronger, thicker hips and legs. His exact quote was, "During the slave period, the slave owner would breed his big black with his big woman so that he would have a big black kid–that's where it all started." Furthermore, it was Martin Luther King's birthday when he said it. Yeah, he got fired the next day.

-Mikey

Konichiwaneko · 07-09-2003, 05:15 AM

yeah...it's partially true though too. There are subtle differences between the races.

Black people I think have two calf muscles, or their sheared, compared to one for the other races. This allows for faster sprinting, and more leg control.

I find it interesting, and the differences don't matter when it comes too people anywho

tikki · 07-09-2003, 05:52 AM

I am just glad he is standing by his statement. I get so tired of seeing people backtrack when the news agencies make a big deal out of it. If that is what he believes, fine.

gov135 · 07-09-2003, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by MikeyChalupa
Say, if a white coach had made the exact same remarks there'd be a much bigger outrage and a call for the guy to get fired.
-Mikey

This is where the problem lies.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the comments were cause for any sort of uproar.

But you can't make comments like that, period. I don't care what your skin color is, your background is, etc. In a highly visible leadership position, you can't publically speak about things that aren't politically correct.

It's not about whether he was right (probably was) or not.

You just don't go there.

Buccinbears · 07-10-2003, 10:57 PM

Dusty Baker is one of the best coaches in the league. What he said was so minor, but leave it to the media to blow some shit outta perportion. what he said is true!! But for some reason whenever someone in the limelight even hints at something racial People get crazy----Why??
Get over it people, and accept people for who they are

hdvrod1 · 07-11-2003, 06:46 PM

who gives a shit

kms1234 · 07-11-2003, 10:46 PM

Does anyone remember what happened to Jimmy the Greek when he made a similar type of comment some time ago...

astartz · 07-12-2003, 12:43 PM

I grow up in Boston, I now live in AZ.

Today I was playing basketball with some giuys from work, I was about to die as it was 108 with 40 % humity.

They where doing better because they have always put up with the heat.

That is all Dusty was saying.

07-08-2003, 09:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
Konichiwaneko The Dreaded Pixel Nazi Location: Inside my camera	Dusty Baker Comments I found what Dusty Bakers said to be true, and think he's right for not buckling under preassure and taking back what he said. People of darker skin color are darker because...they have more exposure to sunlight. So it's logical to think that they would be more comfortable in being outside in the sun longer then people of lighter skin tones. Maybe it was wrong to mention race, because even within a race there's varying skin tones. Asians like Koreans and Japanese from the Hokkaido region are very pale compared too Indians and South Indochina. Point is....I support Dusty. __________________ Hesitate. Pull me in. Breath on breath. Skin on skin. Loving deep. Falling fast. All right here. Let this last. Here with our lips locked tight. Baby the time is right for us... to forget about us.

07-09-2003, 05:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
Konichiwaneko The Dreaded Pixel Nazi Location: Inside my camera	yeah...it's partially true though too. There are subtle differences between the races. Black people I think have two calf muscles, or their sheared, compared to one for the other races. This allows for faster sprinting, and more leg control. I find it interesting, and the differences don't matter when it comes too people anywho __________________ Hesitate. Pull me in. Breath on breath. Skin on skin. Loving deep. Falling fast. All right here. Let this last. Here with our lips locked tight. Baby the time is right for us... to forget about us.

07-09-2003, 05:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
tikki Justified Location: West Lafayette, IN	I am just glad he is standing by his statement. I get so tired of seeing people backtrack when the news agencies make a big deal out of it. If that is what he believes, fine. __________________ Take notice. Take interest. Take me with you.

07-09-2003, 03:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
MikeyChalupa Squid Location: USS George Washington	I heard this discussion on ESPN radio yesterday. Dusty is taking fire because ANY time you make a generalization (good or bad) about an ethnic group you are going to ruffle some feathers. I think Dusty gets off the hook though since he belongs to that group. It's the situation where it's more accepted to make remarks about your own culture that would not be okay if someone else made them. Say, if a white coach had made the exact same remarks there'd be a much bigger outrage and a call for the guy to get fired. I remember back in 1988 when Jimmy the Greek, a white CBS sports commentator, got fired for saying that blacks made better athletes, particularly runners and jumpers because they were "bred" to have stronger, thicker hips and legs. His exact quote was, "During the slave period, the slave owner would breed his big black with his big woman so that he would have a big black kid–that's where it all started." Furthermore, it was Martin Luther King's birthday when he said it. Yeah, he got fired the next day. -Mikey

07-10-2003, 10:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Buccinbears Upright	Dusty Baker is one of the best coaches in the league. What he said was so minor, but leave it to the media to blow some shit outta perportion. what he said is true!! But for some reason whenever someone in the limelight even hints at something racial People get crazy----Why?? Get over it people, and accept people for who they are

07-11-2003, 06:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
hdvrod1 Upright Location: Chicago	who gives a shit

07-11-2003, 10:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
kms1234 Upright	Does anyone remember what happened to Jimmy the Greek when he made a similar type of comment some time ago...

07-12-2003, 12:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
astartz Tilted	I grow up in Boston, I now live in AZ. Today I was playing basketball with some giuys from work, I was about to die as it was 108 with 40 % humity. They where doing better because they have always put up with the heat. That is all Dusty was saying.