QuasiMondo

I've noticed....every team in the NL seems to have a Met killer. Even the Mets have one...his name is Aaron Heilman.

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kutulu

You New York fans. Nothing pleases you. You're 10-8, not 8-10. You have a great RS/RA differential that shows you can score and prevent runs. Be patient, you have a great team.

kutulu

Gagne just blew his 4th save op of the year.

Glory's Sun

and the Brewers just blew a ton of money on him

kutulu

It's not like any reasonable GM could have seen that it was nearly inevitable...

The_Jazz

Latest news out of Chicago - Ronny Cedano gets a big hit in the 8th last night against the Mets, predicts a World Series this morning and just hit a grand slam in the bottom of the eighth yesterday.

It's waaaaaay too early to start talking about playoffs, especially with this franchise, but damn...

And kutulu, I hate your avatar. Which you probably already knew.

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QuasiMondo

Do you see why I'm pulling my hair out?!?!?!? Granted, Figs didn't have a great outing, but every time Schoenweis, Sosa, or Heilman get on the mound, one of two things happen: The bases get loaded up, or somebody slaps one into the stands, and when the stars align like they did today, both happen. I can tolerate the sluggish offense because other players are stepping up, but when you take the game completely out of the batters' hands...

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-From the Collector's Edition DVD of The Terminator

Ilow

As a Red Sox fan, I have to ask, WTF did they see in that guy that would lead them to believe that they should make him their closer AND pay him like one? As far as anyone can see he is washed up like lawn chairs after a tsunami.

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djtestudo

The 152 saves over three years with sub-2.7 ERAs, the 2.16 ERA and 16 saves in a half-season in Texas last year and the one year deal he was willing to accept to attempt to salvage his career?

Couldn't have been any of that.

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Ilow

Or it could have been that he stopped doing the steroids. He was good. WAS. that was tons of injuries and probably several cycles of PEDs ago. IMO It was dumb for Milwaukee to sign him to that kind of contract. They would have been far better server to give him an incentive-based contract. It's not like there was a bidding war for the guy...

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Glory's Sun

ok so Gange had a decent track record in Texas.. so fucking what. Look at what he did in a big market. He sucked so much donkey ass he turned into one. Then the Brewers (who have a closer mind you) give Gange an insane amount of money to be a closer in a division that will be tightly contested (probably). Not very smart. He wasn't attempting to salvage his career, he was attempting to find a stupid GM that would pay him a fat check and pretend he still had the stats. He found one that's for sure.

and I guess Pan can chill out now. C.C had a decent line last night. Dropped his ERA 3 points.

oh.. yeah one more thing. Am I the only one sick of hearing all this goddamn Joba shit?? Baby Stein wants to call people an idiot for keeping a guy in the pen who has a 100mph fastball.. umm.. well.. let's see.. the kid doesn't really have the diversity of pitches to make it as a starter.. he has no arm strength built up.. and let's see him throw that 100mph heater after 4 innings. He should stay as a setup guy and replace Rivera when the time is right.

oh fuck me.. and I really saying this?? nevermind.. make the kid a starter so Manny can bust his ass up.

pan6467

Gagne is done, I think the Brew Crew made a move to just appease the critics and he was the only one who would sign there. Once they start winning, I see them spending and getting some gus that will truly help. They have a great team there.

CC it'll take more than just one game against a team that can't hit and is in a downslide. Now if he puts together 2 -3 more starts that strong I'll breathe easier.

Joba???? The bugs are too thick Joba?????

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Glory's Sun

The kind of performance CC had last night should get him over the hump. I'm almost sure of it.

and yes that's the same Joba. I'm hoping the black cat that ran into the skanks dugout last night serves the same purpose it has served the cubs all these years.

djtestudo

Just remember that Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy couldn't handle a Baltimore offense with Kevin Millar batting cleanup and a shortstop that hits like it's 1968 (not Carl Yaztremski, either; more like Hal Lanier).

Yeah, I'm worried about the Yankees

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The_Jazz

I don't know why you are all focused on Gagne as such a big bust when the Dodgers have got to be shitting their collective pants about Andruw Jones, his .156 average, 1 HR and the $15M he's due this year. I know it's almost impossible to compare hitters and pitchers in quantifiable terms, but I have to insist that Jones is having a much slower start than CC, pan, especially after last night.

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Glory's Sun

Jazz.. you must have missed my earlier post where I dogged Andruw. That was a pretty obvious thing, but I think it's a little easier to get a swing back than a throwing arm.

I'm still pissed off that Gagne sucked it up in Boston so much last year.. just like I'll talk shit about Renteria ..

Plus, if you want to look at hitters and talk about Andruw.. how about Ryan Howard?? wins arbitration and sucks it up.

The_Jazz

gucci, you know me well enough to know that if it didn't happen on this page, it might as well not exist for me. Even if I caught it, it didn't happen today, and it's filed next to what I had for lunch on Monday. But I did catch your "black cat" comment.

I thought about using Ryan Howard as my example but didn't because he's hitting .190 and "only" making $10M. His OBP and SLG are also a lot better than Jones, who's never seen a high fastball he didn't like. And he does have 4 HR's, which is marginally ok. On the plus side, he's being patient at the plate and has 15 walks this year.

Edit: and did you have a good time at the game last night?

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Glory's Sun

ya know .. all I can say about the dumbass who lost the ball is I'm glad it didn't happen at skankee stadium.. and I'm glad the Boston fans boo'ed him and .. it should have been him that fell over the edge..

kutulu

The Reds finally fired their GM and replaced him with Walt Jocketty (formerly of St Louis). One less GM out there to screw over.

Ilow

Yeah, this highlights the difference between the luxury box douchbags and the rest of the fans. I'm glad they booed him

By the way, I met Sean Casey out at a bar on Monday and the guy is unbelievably classy and gracious. I knew his reputation, and he lived up to it. I was pleased to shake his hand. Some of these other guys, I couldn't care less about.

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Glory's Sun

that's pretty awesome llow. Good to hear he lived up to the rep he has.

QuasiMondo

Heilman gives up grand slam. Beautiful.

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-From the Collector's Edition DVD of The Terminator

Glory's Sun

and Boston's bullpen has identity problems .. again.

uugh.

Ilow

I'm giving them a pass this time, as the spot starter two games ago only went 4 and taxed the pen, plus some of them still have the bubonic plague or whatever was going around there. Delcarmen said later that he was dizzy and felt crappy, but hoped it would go away (oh, now you tell us). Whatever. 3 games in Fenway South should cure what ails them.

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djtestudo

Man it's great rooting for a team with nothing to lose

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Ilow

It's true. Everything in life is about expectations.

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QuasiMondo

I take back all the bad things I've said about Billy Wagner.

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-From the Collector's Edition DVD of The Terminator

kutulu

You don't win the division in April but a hot start sure makes it easier. The DBacks wrapped up a 22-game stretch against the NL West (what happened to the NL West so far?) going 17-5. They own a 6 game lead over the Dodgers and haven't lost a series since the first one of the year. Webb is 6-0 and the team is the tops in the NL both for runs scored and runs allowed. What a start.

Glory's Sun

Well the Dodgers are .. well they're being the Dodgers.. tons of expectations but no delivery.

Like I said before, the Dbacks are loaded with young talent, and while they may be playing over their heads.. they have the talent to sustain a good playoff run.

Boston really needs to start putting a streak together. The AL East has been a pretty boring division (IMO) so far this year. Lots of underachieving that is pissing me off. I've been saying for a long time to look for the Rays to show something, and this year they are doing it so far, but they really shouldn't be competing with the likes of Boston just yet. I guess that's what cold offense gets you though.

and Pan.. are you convinced C.C. is ok yet??

pan6467

They are one sick team this year. My old adopted hometown really has a team that they can be truly proud over.

NO..... as soon as I say yes, he'll fall apart. I complain and he wins.... so I'll keep bitching....

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

kutulu

That was one TOUGH loss for CC last night. It sucks when that sort of thing happens.

pan6467

I'd say he pitched pretty damn well.... but.... but..... well he did give up that one home run and it cost us the game.... he's a bum.

did I do good still pushing the CC hate so I don't jinx him?

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

Glory's Sun

I'd say it's pretty hard to jinx him given his record

Ilow

Shoot, two Sox pitchers just lost after pitching just about as well. It's the way things go sometimes. I always hate to see it though, you have the feeling that there are only a certain number of bullets in their guns in any given year.

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Fotzlid

I'm going to the Sox game tomorrow (Tues). I'm hoping Lester has one of his good games. Hoping more that the rain stops before game time.

I watched the Bucholtz game. That was a shame how that ended. He pitched a great game. I missed the Beckett game.

Ilow

Wow dude, you saw a great one, I hope you had a good time (and took pictures).

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Fotzlid

The first half of the game, I was sitting behind a pole. Couldn't see the pitcher. Couldn't complain though, the tickets were free.
We did have a good time. I got a few pics before the battery died.
Had a pair of fidgety couples in front of us. I don't think they sat still for an entire inning till the 7th. Constant beer runs. Idiots.

kutulu

DBacks lost tonight but top prospect Scherzer made his debut in relief. 4.1 perfect innings, 7K's. Most consecutive retired in relief during a debut performance since at least 1900. He was dealing.

pan6467

OHIO BASEBALL SUCKS... THE REDS SUCK.... THE INDIANS SUCK.... THE WHLE TEAMS SHOULD BE DEMOTED TO AA.

FUCK OHIO BASEBALL!!!!!!!!

(hopefully this works and these teams start playing up to their true potentials)

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

Ilow

ROFL, how long before you are sacrificing chickens and calling on Jobu from Major league?

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