777

Met this tall, curly haired, latina at work, and we're hitting it off really well. Only thing is that she has a boyfriend. Now this is the last time I'm gonna let some guy I never met get in my way of showing a gal a fun time.

I'll add more background when I have some time.

Main Points:

She's seasonal, so we aren't co-workers anymore.

I playfully tease her from time to time.

She flirts by making silly faces while I'm busy with customers.

Her bf is going to jail.

She currantly has some kind of stomach flu (again).

She didn't hesitate to give me her number when I asked for it.

I don't own a cell phone.

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Ustwo

Have you ever heard of the term 'red flag'?

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Rodney

Mmm, I agree. Three questions to ask her if things look like they're going to progress:

"Have you broken up with your boyfriend?"
"Does _he_ know you've broken up with him?"
"What's he in for?"

If the answers to those questions aren't promising, you might also want to find out if he belongs to one of those social clubs they have in California with the funny names -- you know, "Norteno," "Sureno?" (some irony here)

NoSoup

Obviously, I've never met her boyfriend, but depending on what he's going to jail for, you may want to stop persuing her - or at the very least, proceed with caution. If he's going to jail for an unpaid ticket vs assault, he very well may be upset with the fellow that "stole" his girlfriend - right when he needed the support, no less.

Additionally, and keep in mind I know nothing about this girl - if she didn't hesitate when she gave her number to you while she has a boyfriend, what makes you think she won't do the same if you were that boyfriend?

Just figured I'd throw my two cents in

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Mantus

Smart.

Good.

Sweet.

Nice, move in!

Oooookay...

Play ball!

A very minor social handicap. Don't worry about it.

You are in an excellent spot. My advice is to make a move as soon as humanly possible. However, do not initiate a relationship yet. Don't ask why, it's just the way it has to be. Just have a good time; be 007 to her Pussy Galore.

Cheers.

alansmithee

Ok, so you are going to try to date someone who goes out with criminals, and also isn't shy about cheating on someone? Yup, sounds like a winner!

MageB420666

He never said she was going to cheat with him. She may break up with her current bf and go with him instead, which might be a smart move on her part depending on why her bf is going to jail.

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SERPENT7

Sounds like the perfect no-strings-attached (FwB) set-up to me. Just be sure to dump her gently before her B/F gets out, or risk suffering the wrath!

alansmithee

Cheating might've been the wrong word. But I'm just leery of starting anything with anyone actively attached. It means that more than likely, they're gonna be looking when I'm dating them as well. I've always thought that before you look for a new relationship, you end any current relationship. If you're with someone, you should give them your full attention, and not be hunting for the next one.

777

What can I say, certain red flags sound like fun.
I'm glad you brought this up, since we are in the Los Angeles area. One guy I can handle, but a 10 on me aren't my kind of odds.
Well I forgot the first reason that he's going to jail, but he did run his car into a lamp post, while drunk. The following day, he reported it stolen, but that didn't work. That's the second reason he's going to jail. He seems to be one of those typical "Bad Boys" you hear about. An idiot who'll do anything and acts with out thinking. To some women, I here this can be exciting.
Hey Mantus, thanks for the support . I'd move in sooner if it weren't for the projectile vomit. I'll give her a call on the second so we can get together for a drink.
The only winners are the ones having a good time.
She may brake up with him, and she may not. It's not like she's married, which is where I'm drawing the line. Truth be told, I'm looking for a fling. It things move on to being , then I'll see to it that she breaks up with him, or I'll break up with her and move on.
I prefer the Seinfled method of break ups. It should be like a band-aid, RIGHT OFF!
Now let's be honest here. Cheating is the right word. Also, let's have some fun before we get into a bf/gf relationship.

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Roger Zelazny

777

Not much happened when we first met. It's a day or two later that things were getting interesting. I went to my cash register to clock in, and she walks up to my to ask for a small favor. She put on this really cute, sad puppy dog face, I forgot what she was asking for. I pretended that it didn't faze me and replied, "Hey, do you always use the sad puppy dog face when asking for something?" She walks off.

Later, as I'm cleaning up some watches at my counter, she comes by to chat. I continue what I'm doing while chatting.

(Some chit-chat)
XY: There's some white watches knocked over on the bottum. You better clean them up.
XX: Ok. (Locks up counter, moves on to next counter, ignoring the watches she mentioned.)
XY: Jerk!
XX: You have a lot of these expressions. Do you practice them in the mirror?
XY: Ha ha. My faces does all these retarded things. Sometimes when I get my picture taken, I'll be all like , and they turn out badly.
XX: I bet your loosey at poker. I'd like to play with you, so that I can take all your money.
XY: I'm very good at poker.
XX: Then this'll be interesting.
(XX takes his lunch break. End scene)

Following this day, the Chirstmas shopping season goes into full swing. Too busy to have fun and it's all work, all the time. When our eyes did meet, she'd make one of her "retarded" faces, and keep walking. She calls out sick for a few days and her last day was Christmas Eve. My day off. I was hanging out with buddy of mine and we were having a little adventure of our own. His boss gave him a bad check for payday, and we were driving out to see him to collect. After my buddy's boss gave him some cash from an ATM, we hit the malls looking for a good deal on a dvd player, and pick up some dvds (a 3pack for $20 with X-Men I and II, along with Daredevil{lossey movie, but kick ass features}). We eventually drove back to pick one up at the mall were I work. $35 with a $10 dollar rebate.

On the way back to his place, I was wondering if she was working that day (actually, I was wondering that all day). So while I'm driving, I borrow his cell, and call my store. I need the backgroud noise for the cars to appear that I'm busy. The first two trys, I was put on hold by differet people, and the line was droped. The third time, (we drove past his place by now) I get a buddy of mine on the line, he says she busy with a customer. I haven't mentioned to any other coworkers that I'm interested in her, so I guess I'll trust him with this one.

XX: Hey, is XY there today?
Him: Yeah, she's busy with a customer. Can I take a message?
XX: umm, Hey, buddy. It's me, 777. XY seems cool and I'm gonna ask her out. Can you cover for her and put her on the phone?
Him: Yeah, sure man. Hold on a sec'.
XY: Hello?
XX: Hey XY, how ya doin'?
XY: Great!
XX: Well since this is your last day and your not gonna have a chance to see me again, I thought I'd get your number.
XY: We've got to play poker some time.
XX: And I'll take all your money.
(she give me her cell number. I repeat it out loud so that my buddy in the car can jot it down.)

Haven't been able to get a hold of her since yesterday. Turns out that she's sick (again), with some kind of stomach flu. She's got a great sense of humor, so I know we'll have a good time. I'll see her when she's better.

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Roger Zelazny

World's King

Homeboy is goin' to jail.


He isn't the boyfriend anymore. Unless he's goin' in for murder... you're home free.

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macmanmike6100

Personally, I won't date a women who tells me that her boyfriend is *going to jail*...wtf? jail? yeah, to me, that's a red flag...not worth potential trouble. either way, let us know how it pans out - good luck!

Aro23

if you do proceed, be prepared to face karma

Mantus

Oh, c'mon chicks love outlaws. It's like chastising a fox for hunting chickens.

Cynthetiq

would you want this to possibly happen to you?

If so, go for it!

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analog

1. Men are xy, girls are xx. An ex of mine used to say, "men put the y in cocky."
2. Fool around, have some great sex, cut bait and go. This has "issues" written all over it.

Xazy

Just be cautious going in.. and find out as much about her 'ex' and what happened there before you jump in.

lurkette

Be sure the "stomach flu" isn't morning sickness.

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Poppinjay

Yeah, what lurkette said. The whole scenario sounds close to a hookup I almost made a few (okay, 10) years back, girl was crazy to get together, kept flirting, when push came to shove she insisted we didn't need birth control, later found out she was pregnant by an older guy whom her parents probably would have killed if they found out.

If you do this, double bag it. And keep in mind her hombre may go in without a gang, but he may come out with one.

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777

Well, once I got over my procrastination, I called her on the 3rd (just got her voice mail, left a message). Last night (the 4th), she called looking for me. Except that she dialed a number to a phone I borrowed. My little sister's cell. My sister is a great kid and all, but not very good with people.

Anyway, I pulled the number from the call log, and the gal's call came from a Catholic Church.

And so the plot thickens...

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Roger Zelazny

crow_daw

Umm..........wtf?

The plot certainly thickens. I know this has been said and counterargued and everything, but unless you're a pretty bad motherfucker yourself, I don't think I would mess with a career criminal's chica.

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Willravel

There is no higher crime that theft of a SO. Other than rape.

rlynnm

watch out for her tummy fouls....i'd be careful. very verry careful.

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Toaster126

SO's can't be stolen. They can only decide to move on.

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Willravel

Correction: attempted theft of someone's SO. If someone were to flirt with my wife, despite it being obvious that she was with me, my testosterone is liable to take over. No one wants that, neither me or the other dude.

maxhooters

well i did not really steal a gril friend but one of my co workers was hitting on another one and she was pretty cute. I moved in and took her away from him, boy that was a mistake. It turned out that she had major ex issues and because i see no other way of saying it she was white trash along with her family. we went out for about a month and saw the light and dumped her. the next couple of weeks she went nuts on me but she got over it.

it was fun stealing but it was not worth it.

and why would you want someone that cheats on someone else, they will do the same to you!!!

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optik_nerve

You know...this seems like a really intense movie.

I say go for it just to make it interesting. It won't hurt to try.

EDIT: Unless the criminal boyfriend finds out, than it might result in some hand-to-hand combat or perhaps a fervent knife fight.

DonovanDuVal

So long as you are okay with the consequences, which have all pretty much been written about here, so I won't reiterate, then go for it. Worst case scenario she stiffs you for child support for another man's baby, who then (and I believe this is the technical term) clips you when he is released from prison. But that is only the absolute worst case, so think positive and get in there.

You sound like you are up for it anyway, so very little that anyone says will stop you. Also you don’t seem to be after a serious relationship so the whole problem of whether she’s the type who cheats on her boyfriend doesn’t really matter. Bloody good luck with it, and more power to you.

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777

Well ladies and gents, thanks for your support. I've reached her voice mail enough times. If she calls, that fine. If not, that's cool too. I'm losing interest, and she's missing out.

And regarding the call from the church (for those who care), it turns out she works there. Since the call came around 7pm, it seems like I she had some time to kill after work, and wanted my company. Oh well.

Anyway, I don't have to get a number from every gal I flirt with. Don't have to date every gal who gives me her number. Don't have to sleep with every gal I date. And so on. Let's just see how things turn out.

And it's about time I go out and meet someone new.

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Roger Zelazny