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Old 11-23-2004, 04:32 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I'd find it very arousing. I'd want to go watch the dynamic. But I bet they don't let anyone who's not in the class enter the room, including the boyfriend. Oh, well.
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Old 11-23-2004, 10:44 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I wouldn't have a problem with it. In all honesty I think a lot of guys fantasize about stuff like that and won't admit it. It would be very interesting to see the response of other people to her body. I'm sure not in the same way I respond to it, but rather their interpretation through art.

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Old 11-25-2004, 12:15 AM   #83 (permalink)
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A few things, so I'll make a list:

1. If my wife desired to pose nude for an art class, I'd automatically tell her to go for it. Anything else, I'd prefer her and I discussing it, but it is her body and her decision.

2. I am an art major. Most art geeks are not getting their rocks off staring at the woman or man that is posing. Most are saying to themselves, "dammit, the human body is fucking hard to draw!!!".

3. For people who like looking at my art, I do display a few of the better figure drawing pictures I do. This is not to revel in the nudity, but to revel in my ability to replicate what I saw on a two-dimensional surface. Since we are talking about people who want to appreciate my art and not a buch of horn-dogs, they are looking at the same thing.

4. There is a lower (read: near non-existent) chance of people seeing and pleasuring themselves to the images of your naked SO because of the fact that they are posing for an art class than if they were to, say, post their naked self on the internet.


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Edit:5. Most female models from the figure drawing classes I have been in take the pictures as a serious complement. Esspecially when fledgling male artists enhance their bust line to unimaginable proportions. It makes them laugh.
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Old 11-25-2004, 08:47 AM   #84 (permalink)
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The point isn't that he can't have an opinion. The point is that he can't "forbid" her from doing it. Every one is entitled to have an opinion, but you can't use emotional blackmail to enforce it.

If she wants to pose and he doesn't, then it's still her choice because it's her body, just as it would be his choice if she objected to him posing. The strength of their relationship will be in whether she chooses not to do it because he objects, or in what he chooses to do should she decided to pose even after he objects.

But all this talk of "allowing" and "forbidding" is just a bit too "Me man, you woman" for me, at least.

What constitutes "forbidding"? If he feels strongly about this subject, then he has every right to tell her that there may be negative consequences if she chooses to go about doing it anyway. That is not "emotional blackmail" that is him telling her his true feelings (if he has some to that effect). I fail to see how this is any different than her say, kissing another man. This might not bother some, but it bothers others, the fact that your gf posing nude does not bother you has no bearing whatsoever on if it bothers him. Obviously this bothers him, so why is it wrong? Is he rendered so impotent by it being her body that he can not have an opinion? If this was any other subject (say not one that people percieve as being akin to "a womans right to choose") then people would be telling him to express his true feelings to his partner, and to determine how strong he feels about it, not "It's her decision, you just need to deal with it".

Like I stated earlier, this depends entirely on how strongly he feels about this. If he equates it as nearer to cheating, then he has a right to state that, and to state that the consequences may be similar to those associated with cheating. There is no right or wrong here, only opinions. Stop trying to make him feel like he is doing something wrong (emotional blackmail) for stating his.
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Old 11-26-2004, 08:07 PM   #85 (permalink)
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As for me, I wouldn't mind it if my wife did it. She can take care of herself. And it's not like she'll be publicly masturbating or anything. She'll just be nude.
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Old 11-26-2004, 11:00 PM   #86 (permalink)
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I'm in the same boat as you, I'd never want my gf to pose nude for anything art or otherwise.
Yup, you would want your girl to be yours, not the publics.
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Old 11-27-2004, 01:36 AM   #87 (permalink)
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Yup, you would want your girl to be yours, not the publics.
But what if she wants to share the beauty that is her body? You might have the ability to state your opinion, but how can you deny her something that will not harm anyone?
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:22 AM   #88 (permalink)
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Let her do it!! At least in the class you know where she is taking clothes off vs. her sneeking around taking her clothes off behind your back. It is a good experience for her and will likely help her career in the art world. I think anyone who feels comfortable enough to take their clothes off and sit still while people draw them should be admired. Most guys would be too nervouse and have a complex about the size of their penis to be drawn, especially if the air conditioner is on in the room. Or just the opposite, if there are pretty girls in the room, they may have problems keeping things under wraps.
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Old 11-27-2004, 07:55 AM   #89 (permalink)
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I have a degree in fine arts and in the 3 years of life drawing I took no one ever reacted sexually to a model...the thought of anyone acting so juvenile in class is ridiculous. Art students deal with the nudity from from day 1, and treat it for what it is: a study in anatomy.
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:01 AM   #90 (permalink)
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I have a degree in fine arts and in the 3 years of life drawing I took no one ever reacted sexually to a model...the thought of anyone acting so juvenile in class is ridiculous. Art students deal with the nudity from from day 1, and treat it for what it is: a study in anatomy.
Well said Dood!!
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Old 11-28-2004, 05:29 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Holy shit, I didn't think this would produce such a huge response...

Let me reitterate again: I highly disapprove of her doing nude modelling, but I know I can't stop her from doing it. I have nothing against art like that, and for me it's alright for anyone else to do nude modelling. Just for some reason I hate thinking about having other people seeing her nude.

In retrospect, perhaps asking this in the sexual forums was wrong. I don't think there's too much of a sexual subtleness to this, as it is that she's doing something that I really don't like, and there's nothing I can do about it.
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Old 11-28-2004, 09:05 PM   #92 (permalink)
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Holy shit, I didn't think this would produce such a huge response...

Let me reitterate again: I highly disapprove of her doing nude modelling, but I know I can't stop her from doing it. I have nothing against art like that, and for me it's alright for anyone else to do nude modelling. Just for some reason I hate thinking about having other people seeing her nude.

In retrospect, perhaps asking this in the sexual forums was wrong. I don't think there's too much of a sexual subtleness to this, as it is that she's doing something that I really don't like, and there's nothing I can do about it.

so is she going to do it or no>?
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Old 11-28-2004, 10:28 PM   #93 (permalink)
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Holy shit, I didn't think this would produce such a huge response...

Let me reitterate again: I highly disapprove of her doing nude modelling, but I know I can't stop her from doing it. I have nothing against art like that, and for me it's alright for anyone else to do nude modelling. Just for some reason I hate thinking about having other people seeing her nude.

In retrospect, perhaps asking this in the sexual forums was wrong. I don't think there's too much of a sexual subtleness to this, as it is that she's doing something that I really don't like, and there's nothing I can do about it.
I think any man can tell you why you feel this way. You are jealous.

Before you deny this, think about some of the synonyms of jealousy: covetousness, protectiveness, resentment, suspicion, distrust. You covet your SO, and desire to protect her, but in this you are so extreme that you create a sense of suspicion and distrust. Do you not think she can take care of herself? Why must you be the only one who sees her unclothed?

Webster defines being jealous thusly:

Main Entry: jeal·ous
Pronunciation: 'je-l&s
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English jelous, from Old French, from (assumed) Vulgar Latin zelosus, from Late Latin zelus zeal -- more at ZEAL
1 a : intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness b : disposed to suspect rivalry or unfaithfulness
2 : hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage
3 : vigilant in guarding a possession [new colonies were jealous of their new independence -- Scott Buchanan]
- jeal·ous·ly adverb
- jeal·ous·ness noun


You are being vigilant in guarding the woman you feel could possibly be led astray.
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Old 11-28-2004, 10:46 PM   #94 (permalink)
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i personally would not feel comfortable posing nude for an art class, but say i were, and my bf had issues about it and told me about his strong feelings against it, depending on how meaningful our relationship is, i would definitely take his opinion into consideration when making the final decision as to pose or not. so i can totally understand why Wingless was upset and i think it\'s perfectly fine and necessary for him to communicate this to his gf. letting his gf know how he feels is better than holding it to himself yet hating it secretly. sure, she might still decide to pose, but i would want to know how my bf feels about it, if anything, if i were her.
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Old 11-28-2004, 11:30 PM   #95 (permalink)
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beauty is what it is, female:male, both sides have some extremely attractive attributes to the opposite and sometimes same sex. Let beauty be free. just because she wants to sit naked for people who have a creative mind and truly appreciate the beauty, doesn't mean that she's going to hop in the sack with someone there, because its all a matter of choice.
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Old 11-29-2004, 03:27 PM   #96 (permalink)
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She is her own person. She has the right to do as she wishes. You have the right to vocalize how you feel too. She can make a decision based upon you input and her financial needs as well. Look at it this way, can you afford to give her the money yourself? We all have needs and desires. Most of the time the needs outweigh the desires...
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Old 11-29-2004, 07:13 PM   #97 (permalink)
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Hmmm sounds like she wants to do it but feels like it might harm the relationship if she does b/c you're so uncomfortable with the whole situation.

This is a predicament that sucks (to say the least)... believe me, I know.

To some men, the naked body of their woman isn't "art" in the least. It's purely sexual or they just simply believe her body is just for them to enjoy.

She's stuck--I feel for her.
I say let her do what she's interested in doing--it's HER interest.. not YOURS and it is her body.
If she fears it'll ruin the relationship, she may just say "ok I wont do it" but believe me, she'll never forget and it may build resentment.. who knows.

This is really about how you see the human body. This is a tough one.
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Old 11-29-2004, 07:17 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Kalnaur,

True, jealousy could be why he's not comfortable..

I think it's safe to say that most people that tend to get jealous are a tad bit insecure for whatever reason. That's human.. we all have insecurities..well..most of us anyway. Myself included.

I think being open minded is key.
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Old 11-29-2004, 07:33 PM   #99 (permalink)
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Jealousy is a matter of trust. If Iw ere in a very trusting relationship, I'd tell her to go wild.
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Old 11-29-2004, 07:39 PM   #100 (permalink)
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Jealousy is a matter of trust.
I don't think so. At least not in every situation.
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Old 11-30-2004, 02:26 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Jealousy is a matter of trust. If Iw ere in a very trusting relationship, I\'d tell her to go wild.
my bf often invokes this argument, and of course, i am the one who\'s always jealous. i do think that there are some boundaries in a relationship that one simply cannot cross -- otherwise no matter how trusting one\'s partner is, he or she will feel jealous. there are always lines to draw and (reasonable) sacrifices to make.
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