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motdakasha 03-11-2004 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by Ustwo
#1 ? Why do the girls spend so much time sucking on dildo?s in a G-G scene?

#3 ? Spitting. What?s with the spitting.

1. Common myth: women love to be penetrated. While most women enjoy sex, penetration isn't the part of intercourse they get off on. It's the stimulation of the clitoris that occurs from bumping and grinding. When women masturbate it's actually quite rare that a female uses penetration to get off. So, why do they portray women getting off on blowjobs/penetration? Because the target audience is men, and that's what men think women want, and what they want women to want.

3. Not only is it the cheapest lube on earth (cheap is free!), but it adds a sense of degradation to women. Since degrading women in porns sells well, the industry keeps it up. See: "Cherry Poppin' Daddies"

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Originally posted by Halx
Fetishes develop over time [...] It's just like classical conditioning.
(This is based on lectures from my human sexuality and psychology classes.)
Fetishes can develop overnight. It is conditioning. Sometimes it's classical, sometimes it's operant. In any case, it's possible for pairing to occur after only one experience.

Example of classical conditioning: A guy is going down on a girl. While he goes down on her, he ties her up to a bed post. As a result, the girl gets turned on at the sight of fruit.

This (cunnilingus) is a conditioned stimulus, which (hopefully) elicits a conditioned response of getting turned on. Then, you pair the conditioned stimulus with a neutral stimulus which would be something nonsexual in this scenario, let's say rope. The conditioned response is then associated with the neutral stimulus, which is then renamed to conditioned stimulus because now you no longer need the previous conditioned response to elicit being turned on.

This only has to happen once if the experience was really intense and good timing for the association to be created. However, it could take years, too. It varies for every person and their experiences.

Marburg 03-11-2004 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by Mr. Mojo
I hate it when the girl looks into the camera during a blow job. It totally destroys the fourth wall, which is so very important in a porno flick.
*cough* :D

KungFuGuy 03-11-2004 08:50 PM

i hate situational pornos that try and come off as real.

these include stupid shit like "milf hunter" where the guy goes out and picks a "random" milf thats not a porn star. then they have sex and finish with a facial.

RoboBlaster 03-11-2004 08:57 PM

And those where the guy is wearing a "hidden camera" in his glasses.

Prince 03-11-2004 09:13 PM

When the guy (usually has either a moustache or a mullet, wtf is with that?) pulls out in the middle of the fuck and starts jacking off to make himself come (which in itself makes no sense to me), why does the woman keep moaning as he comes on her stomach/tits/face/pussy?

RoboBlaster 03-11-2004 09:16 PM

She's actually groaning because she knows she is about to get a face full of spunk.

FallenAvatar 03-12-2004 02:27 AM

The thing I hat e the most is such: Why try and make a storyline for porn that isn't even remotely intimate? Story lines in porn == no no.

Swampy 03-12-2004 05:21 AM

I agree with many of the above:
1. Calling the women bitch, whore, slapping etc. Disgusting.
2. Huge fake tits. I get tired when all the girls look like they're made in the same factory. This goes for the hair thing too. I like when the girl looks like someone you could actually meet...
3. Scenes that look more like rape than anything. Petite girls trying not to cry from the 12' hammering her.
4. Group scenes. How many girls do you think likes to be used by 3 or four guys at the same time...

Don't mind the facials, though... Curious about what the average girl think of that, really...

Ustwo 03-12-2004 07:58 AM

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Originally posted by motdakasha
1. Common myth: women love to be penetrated. While most women enjoy sex, penetration isn't the part of intercourse they get off on. It's the stimulation of the clitoris that occurs from bumping and grinding. When women masturbate it's actually quite rare that a female uses penetration to get off. So, why do they portray women getting off on blowjobs/penetration? Because the target audience is men, and that's what men think women want, and what they want women to want.
I have to disagree, women do love to be penetrated. All women I have slept with have enjoyed penetration and two NEEDED it to get off, so I don't think its very rare. One of them would orgasm only if I did inside her. My wife tells me sometimes she needs an orgasm and sometimes she needs penetration. Now I know most women can get off without penetration, but I don't think its related to the sucking of dildos. I think most normal men know women may enjoy giving a bj, but not because it feels good to them. As such watching them suck a dildo for no good reason is obviously fake to any man, and doubly so to a woman.


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3. Not only is it the cheapest lube on earth (cheap is free!), but it adds a sense of degradation to women. Since degrading women in porns sells well, the industry keeps it up. See: "Cherry Poppin' Daddies"
Ummmm I have to disagree again. My wife picks out any porn we have, and its always the stuff with the longer story lines. They never 'degrade' the women in them verbally or physically. Neither of us care for it. But they often still spit. It may be cheap lube, but its not like lube is expensive in the least. Also when giving BJ's they often spit/have a lot of spit hanging off the penis. I don't think they are trying to degrade men.

From the sound of it, it sounds like you think porn is meant to be degrading to women, and some is, but much of it isn't unless you find sex degrading.

Ack I just turned my thread serious, nononononono!

Ustwo 03-12-2004 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by Swampy
4. Group scenes. How many girls do you think likes to be used by 3 or four guys at the same time...
I know a few. Men have multiple women fantasies, don't be so sure that women don't too.

Golgothas 03-12-2004 08:26 AM

It's porno not masterpiece cinema.

Blackthorn 03-12-2004 08:42 AM

Re: Things I hate about porno's
 
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Originally posted by Ustwo
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#5 – Bad boob jobs. This might be a news flash, but scars are NOT sexy on a woman’s tits. Your oversized, often misshapen, painfully turgid breasts are not sexy, and they are even less sexy with a big ass scar. If you can’t afford a good boob job, don’t do it!
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FAKE BOOBS - Completely unnecessary!!!!

Jim Kata 03-12-2004 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by Golgothas
It's porno not masterpiece cinema.
AMEN!

That about sums it up for me.

Although the women have to be hot....real bazongas preferred, other than that....whatever.

sigma1042 03-12-2004 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by kutulu
So sigma, are you saying you actually watch the acting scenes?
yep, in full length movies

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Originally posted by grouchie
well, First off... I hate when porn is just 33 different sex scenes on one DVD.
that's boring to me.
I want a lame plot that is going to at least make me laugh.

and, the last thing I hate is see'ing all well hung guys.
"Small dicks that come quick"

you could have 20 sex scenes in one regular disc where the guy doesn't take 20 minutes to get off.
If you start with a blow job, the scene is over in 5 minutes.
if you start with the guy going down, maybe a premature for giggles.

One position.
have a scene where the guy has to stop the chick from bouncing for a minute because he was going to go off after 30 seconds or 13 strokes.

i dunno, i'd find it amusing.
of course, i've always loved the blooper porns as well

i agree with this as well
instead of degrading men as well as women, porn should make guys feel better about themselves
as for the women, who cares :)

Mr. Mojo 03-12-2004 09:20 AM

"I really hate it when girls think it's sexy to stand up and pull there cunt flaps apart and make it look like they have the Predator between their legs"

not my quote. But still funny

Holo 03-12-2004 09:40 AM

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Originally posted by motdakasha
1. Common myth: women love to be penetrated. While most women enjoy sex, penetration isn't the part of intercourse they get off on. It's the stimulation of the clitoris that occurs from bumping and grinding. When women masturbate it's actually quite rare that a female uses penetration to get off. So, why do they portray women getting off on blowjobs/penetration? Because the target audience is men, and that's what men think women want, and what they want women to want.
I have to disagree with this as well. My gf gets off really hard from penetration, more so than clitoral. She has an overactive G-spot which luckily my cock can hit perfectly without trying. If women aren't supposed to get off on penetration then why does the G-spot exist? Sure, some women get nothing from it just like others get nothing from the clit, but it does exist, as I've seen it's effects firsthand. When I jerk off I rarely make my hand in the shape of a pussy but I sure do get off from having vaginal sex. I think masturbation can't be compared to intercourse when it comes to stimulation, as the techniques vary widely from commong sex practice.

If you are taught that in college I'm going to point it to feminist influence on the sexual curriculum. PC and feminism are the diseases of learning, as they both seek to divide more than educate.

motdakasha 03-12-2004 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Holo
I have to disagree with this as well. My gf gets off really hard from penetration, more so than clitoral.
I personally also enjoy penetration, but I cannot speak for the majority, and the majority says they prefer clitoral to penetration.

When I said "When women masturbate it's actually quite rare that a female uses penetration to get off," I was referring to my Human Sexuality textbook. This is what it says about penetration:
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In contrast to the male myth (Kinsey and his colleagues [1953] describe it as a "male conceit") that women usually masturbate by simulating penile thrusting through the insertion of fingers or phallic objects into their vaginas, relatively few women actually do (Hite, 1976; Kinsey et al., 1953). Hite reported that only 1.5% of her respondents relied exclusively on vaginal insertion as a means of masturbation. Kinsey and his colleagues found that only one in five women had sometimes used vaginal insertions of objects during masturbation. Some women first experimented with the technique of vaginal insertions but then gave it up as they became more familiar with their sexual anatomy and capabilities. Others practiced the technique because their male partners found it sexually stimulation to watch them engage in this type of activity. Still, some women reported experiencing erotic pleasures from deep vaginal penetration.

Truth or Fiction? Revisited. It is not true that most women masturbate by inserting a finger or other object into the vagina. Most women rely on clitoral stimulation.

Even when women do use insertion, they usually precede or combine it with clitoral stimulation. Sex shops sell dildos, which women can use to rub their vulvas or to insert vaginally. Penis-shaped vibrators may be used in a similar fashion. Many women masturbate during baths, some by spraying their genitals with water-massage shower heads.
While some parts of the Kinsey study are considered invalid, like the homosexual questions (they classified peeing with another man as a homosexual experience), this part of the questionnaire was not listed as one of them. Also, I should note that Hite used Cosmopolitan readers as her survey group in some of her studies, which has been shown not to reflect the whole of society. I do not know if this particular citation was part of one of her Cosmopolitan based studies. Anyway, feel free to disagree with me. There really aren't a whole lot of studies to reference to in this area as far as I'm aware. But if you want to go based on your personal experiences, I will just tell you that mine are the complete opposite. It may come as no surprise that I talk about sex a lot. I've talked with countless women (exceeding 50, but I don't know how many exactly because I talk to everyone, including strangers) and only one other woman has said that she actually gets off on penetration alone.

Strange Famous 03-12-2004 11:26 AM

I'd like a porno movie where they didnt have sex and they weren't naked, it was just a couple making out and petting or whatever. I guess I might be a one man niche market though.

Ustwo 03-12-2004 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by Strange Famous
I'd like a porno movie where they didnt have sex and they weren't naked, it was just a couple making out and petting or whatever. I guess I might be a one man niche market though.
Isn't that what they do on soaps?

txlovely 03-12-2004 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by kutulu
I hate when the chicks have pimples on their asses. Cover that with some makeup!
...and bruises! Those big old nasty bruises are not hot at all. Not to mention the screaming. Some of these women sound like they are in pain. I'm not wildly experienced with porn flicks, but chics screaming while they're getting pounded as though with a jackhammer is not sexy. Come to think of it, they probably are in pain.

Ustwo 03-12-2004 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by motdakasha
I personally also enjoy penetration, but I cannot speak for the majority, and the majority says they prefer clitoral to penetration.

For a fast orgasm, I would agree this is normal, and I don't think most people spend hours upon hours materbating, but its not really important what makes you orgasm faster when it comes to what you like. I like having my balls played with and my shaft licked (TMI TMI! heh e) but it won't make me orgasm. I've never met a girl who didn't LIKE penetration even if it couldn't make her orgasm by itself.

Strange Famous 03-12-2004 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by Ustwo
Isn't that what they do on soaps?
I dont think they do it much in the soaps I watch

Redlemon 03-12-2004 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by grouchie
I want a lame plot that is going to at least make me laugh.
While I agree with you to a point, I dislike it when the "actors" attempt to be funny, but don't get it right. Case in point: "Haunted Nights". You could tell that all the actors thought that this was the funniest movie ever, but none of them had any comic timing, with the exception of Ron Jeremy (in a non-nude role, fortunately). It just became painful.

kutulu 03-12-2004 12:56 PM

Ohh, Ron Jeremy is another thing I hate about pornos. Someone should have banned that fatass from the set a long time ago.

motdakasha 03-12-2004 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by kutulu
Ohh, Ron Jeremy is another thing I hate about pornos. Someone should have banned that fatass from the set a long time ago.
But you gotta give him his dues, man. You must honor and respect the Hedgehog of Porn.

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Originally posted by Ustwo
For a fast orgasm, I would agree this is normal, and I don't think most people spend hours upon hours materbating, but its not really important what makes you orgasm faster when it comes to what you like.
Going back to my original point, pornos are not about what the girl likes or wants (which in most cases is clitoral stimulation). It's about what a guy wants to see the girl like or want, such as penetration, spitting, and facials. In reality, if you leave a girl to her own devices, she is not going to resemble anything like a girl on her lonesome in a porno. She isn't going to suck on a dildo or vibrator. She isn't, in the majority of cases, going to finger herself. Instead, she's going to rub one out in 5-6 minutes, not unlike a guy's typical 2-3 minutes.

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Originally posted by Ustwo
I like having my balls played with and my shaft licked (TMI TMI! heh e) but it won't make me orgasm.
This is also something really common in pornos that show blowjobs. Why? Because the audience is male and that's what a male likes or wants. Women like having their labia and mons played with but it won't necessarily make them orgasm. Do you see this in pornos? No. Why? Because the majority of pornos aren't targeting women. Pornos reflect what men (men who watch pornos, not all men) typically enjoy to get off. It's not reality and it's not equal.

Bobaphat 03-12-2004 01:38 PM

I really hate extended close-ups. I don't need to see that at any length please. I would prefer to see more distance shots where I can see the look on the woman's face. That's the sexiest part in my book.

I also hate when the guys position them selves or the woment in unnatural ways or hold open butt cheeks etc, just to the camera can get a better view. Who does that in real life?

I could direct a better porno in my sleep than any I have ever seen. Terrible terrible terrible, but yet I continue to watch...

RoboBlaster 03-12-2004 01:43 PM

It's to the point where porn doesn't even show anything I like or want, and I am supposed to be the target audience.

SmileyG3 03-12-2004 02:29 PM

How exactly are you expected to pic a good porn movie anyway...the store hundreds of different kinds with all the same pictures on the back?

runawayfetus 03-12-2004 03:08 PM

i agree 100% with everything you said. Except the spitting can be kinda hot sometimees lol..

elian gonsalez 03-12-2004 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by redlemon

The quick cuts in the middle of a sex scene. I'd rather watch them get into a new position, or see the clothes come off.

Poorly spliced sex scenes, where you see the same bit happen twice, or clothes suddenly reappear on a person after they have been taken off.


Sleepyjack 03-13-2004 11:30 AM

Hairy man ass :(

Also, just really old fat guys with young hot model types :|

trwasmer 03-13-2004 06:25 PM

Along the lines of the guy having to pull out to cum. How about the guys that just can't get it up? So many of them are limp all the time. My wife is "Whats "up" with that?"

Aladdin Sane 03-13-2004 07:08 PM

I know I'm a strange man, but I don't really enjoy blowjobs, I like less seeing one for 20 minutes on video. I hate facials. It's disgusting. Watching a girl suck on a dildo just strikes me as silly. Seeing nothing but a closeup of a penis and vagina for over one minute is boring. I want to see the whole woman--particularly her face. I don't want to see her degraded, spit on, slapped, or pissed on--unless she really gets off on that sort of thing. And how many women actually enjoy that kind of thing? I think very few.
So like someone else pointed out above, even though I am supposed to be the target audience of porn, much of what is shown turns me off.

MSD 03-14-2004 07:30 PM

I hate when they go from anal to ... anything else wihtout even taking off or putting on a condom. I don't care how well tehy clean, tehre is still stuff in the ass that does not belong in the mouth, and blowjobs right after anal make me want to vomit, not ejaculate.

Also, learn to at least fake an orgasm if you aren't having one, and stop looking at the camera unless it's a solo shoot.

SVT01Cobra 03-14-2004 09:19 PM

It's the porno industry, they gotta have something for EVERYONE. That's why you see sick fetishes, etc. etc. etc.
All that crap you see, might be gold for someone else.
I'm pretty sure most of the guys in porno use novacane or something like that to desensitize themselves, so that they last that long.

I cant stand seeing a girl getting double stuffed.
I don't like watching two guys asses as they pound the girl from behind. Yuck.

However, I do find girls with pink hair strangely arousing.

KellyC 03-15-2004 12:45 AM

I'm sorry if any one posted this already. I'm a lazy mofo and didn't take enough time to read all the post.

1) Gang banging a girl. 2 guys is already bad, but they have the nerve to tape 10 or 20 guys surrounding a girl?? That just sickens me.
2) Old guys with young girls. Just breaks my heart
3) Big guys with small girls. I don't wanna see a guy 3x the size of a girl gettin' it on.
4) Half nudes, I wanna see the girl get 100% naked. I hate it when she keep a shirt on but bottom half is exposed..wtf is that?!!!?!!
5) Not enough titties sucking in girl/girl scene. :D I'm just really turned on when two girls suck each other's tits

And finally...swallowing the jizz. I just really sickens me when girls do that. Thats gotta be the lowest form of self respect a girl can do.

What's the deal with guys wanting girls to do that any ways?

fatboss 03-15-2004 05:14 AM

Dudes with white socks on !!!!!

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

How long does it take to whip off your socks????????

SVT01Cobra 03-17-2004 05:47 PM

I like it when a girl swallows... :D

yournamehere 03-17-2004 07:40 PM

Girls who haven't shaved in a week - I mean - if your only job is having sex in a studio for a few hours a week, can't you take the time to shave before you go to work? Aren't these things scheduled? We know you're not in porn because of your exemplar work ethic, but c'mon. A little effort, please. Put down the pipe for a second and grab a razor.

Oh - and in my best Ronald Reagan voice - "Mr. Pormeister - tear down that 4th wall!"
Hey - -the porn's made for me, not that donkey-schlong tard who's fucking her - she should be looking at me, not him.
Unless you want to pretend it's real life and they're in love :lol:

But - to each their own.
Your results may vary.

killerbee7071 03-18-2004 03:23 AM

leaving those ugly high heels on the whole time.

tennis shoes are fun though. so are bare feet. :-)


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