I'd never date under 21 (can't drink at a bar).

I have to admit I'd probably mess around with a girl 15 to 16 if she looked and acted older than a typical girl that age.

I've fantasized about girls as young as 14 (hot freshmen highschool chicks).

I'm 22. I'm not really sure what age I'd date because of the girl this thread started about, but I think 17 would be reasonable. she still wants to wait until she's 18.

A year later - guess I'm still at 24... (see post above)... ;)

For me? I'd say anything under 16 is too young.

im 18 almost 19 and for me id have to say 17 is the youngest id go simply because when you are with someone in high school whether you have graduated or not, you have to deal with the High school Drama bullshit that everyone is happy no longer exists after that.

half your age (rounded up) plus seven is the youngest age you can get away with

its flawless :)

Ah, the dirty old man constant. I say it doesn't apply untill you're 30.
One major reason for that, is so that I can date 16 year olds.

half your age rounded up plus seven is not 16 if you're 30. its 22.

I mean the rule shouldn't apply untill you're 30.
Using that equation, my minimum is 18. That is unacceptable ;)

half my age plus seven, but minus 2 for one special person I know. I like that better :-P

I work at a high school so pretty much all teenage girls have stopped being sexually attractive to me. Not that I am a saint but when you are around something everyday...

keeps you out of trouble and out of jail :thumbsup:

All of my girlfriends are usually younger than me but by that I mean they are in their early 20's. I am 27

How so? That would make the youngest that I could go...28. Myself being 42, of course.

Well... to sum it all up: age of consent.

Follow that, you stay out of trouble and jail. Ridicule from your friends is a different story.

The end.

http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm

Most states have 16. Some are 17 and 18.

You are correct in that women got married at a young age (heck they still do in many parts of the world) back then, you are incorrect in the age of their mates. Most would have been in their 20's with the upper bounds generally being around 40. Remember how much shorter life expectancy was back then, unless the man was going to be around to support his new wife her family likely would not have allowed the marriage. Juliet was 13 and was to be married to a man in his early 20's, this was a normal situation. She would have been expected to bear her first child within the first two years of the marriage. If you go back in time even further the biological necessity of women maturing quickly becomes evident, if you only live to your mid to late 20's on average then for there to be any chance for knowledge transfer between generations you have to give birth at a young age. This of course does not mean that all or even most young women today are mentally mature enough to handle a kid at these ages. Western society does a fairly good job of extending childhood into the late teens, which is a good things in some ways but in many ways it is bad. When your hormones are telling you one thing and society quite a different one it can be quite confusing.

i must be the only lolita in the group. i lied through my teeth when guys asked how old i was. when i was 13/14 i could easily pass for 18, even 21 wasn't difficult if i wore the right clothes and make-up. my lies were made even easier if i could convince someones older sister to back me up.

typically i would only do this during the summer months--when i'd play a college girl who'd come home for the summer or a recent hs graduate about to go off to college. it kept my flings to an easy time-line and gave me a built-in excuse to break things off before i had to go back to school and might get caught.

was i too young for the guys i dated? i don't think so, we got along and i learned a hell of a lot! and i don't mean just sexually, even simple things like how to walk side-by-side with a man without awkwardly bumping into him every other step.

i feel a little bad about it now, just because of the amount of trouble the men would have faced if i'd been caught. as it was, that didn't become an issue. if any of them knew or suspected at the time how old i was, i wasn't aware of it. and i only know of one who found out years later (and boy was he pissed...but that's another story).

i wouldn't encourage any guy to search out an underage girl just because they are literally jail bait. ignoring the law, are they are really too young? totally depends on the girl.

I'm almost 24 and I can't have a bad thought about any girl being under the age of 18, I just feel too dirty.

Definitely! I've never really had a problem determing a girl's age either.

Sorry, but that really is a naive way of thinking. If they couldn't tell, they are morons. There are so many things that give age away. Just like it's easy to tell the difference between girls that go to college to party on daddy's money and the girls going to college whom actually succeed.

I can also say that I have met very few 18-25 year olds that really have a mature outlook on life. Much less below 18.

When I was 16, 15 yr old girls seemed just fine. When my daughters reached 15, it didn't seem like such a good idea any more. Just a matter of perspective, I guess.

If it weren't judged based on the lines of the law at all...I think we would surely base things much more on maturity than physical development

Kind of an unusual first post for me, I know, but I want to point something out: life expectancies in the past were a lot better than the numbers make them look, because the numbers factor in infant mortality. Before the modern era, there were huge numbers of diseases that could easily kill newborn babies... in most times and places each baby born had, IIRC, only about a 50/50 chance of making it to its 5th birthday! Once you had made it that far, you still had a pretty good chance of making it into old age. Most societies weren't that different from us in that respect (not as good, but still, it's not like everyone was dropping dead at 45.) Places like England during Shakespeare's time were the exception, with lower life expectancies usually caused by overcrowding and poor waste management (imagine living in a city where everyone was emptying their chamberpots right into the street.)

I think the pressure to have lots of kids came partly from that high infant mortality: it takes a lot more pregancies to have a given number of kids if half of them are going to die in childood.

Heh, I started a post very similar to this recently. I sooo wish girls stopped being hot to me when I become too old for them (legally), but we all concluded that such is not the case. Follow your penis or follow your brain? Although I've been guilty of the former far too many times, none of those situations have put me in a potentially liable position, and I'd like to keep it that way.

Although ever since that guy told me to keep flirting with my friend's sister "for practice," I've been doing a lot of it. :p

so when you were 18-25 you had a mature outlook on life and none of the girls you knew did? :rolleyes:

at any rate, there are all sorts of people in this world. what strikes you as being immature may be a lovely gesture of innocence that someone else finds desirable. it's all in what you're looking for.

besides, these were summer flings--hardly enough time for someone to really get to know a person. it's not like we sat around having deep conversations about the meaning of life and wouldn't it be nice if we got married and had kids. 18-25 year old guys are no more mature than women of the same age, generally less so actually. i wasn't dating men in their 30's when i was a young teen, i was dating guys 18-25. they were interested in the same thing i was--a good time.

True story:

One of my friends who was 15 at the time was working as a cashier at a local department store, while him and a coworker of a similar age were debating whether it's okay to find a younger girl attractive, an old janitor, at least 60 years old. popped in with a couple of rhymes like "Old enough to pee is old enough for me" and "gotta get there before the hair". The guy was later arrested for sexual abuse... creepy, just creepy...

This one gal I met in a video game store. We had a deep conversation on farming video games and the lessons learned that can be applied to real life. And she wears tiny skirts too. But, she was only 16.

I guess I'll try another video game store.

Very few did. My family is wealthy. In my opinion, that really helped me be realistic about life and really think about my choices. I've met few 30 year olds that I felt really had a "healthy" outlook on life.

I agree. But, I'm not talking about acting goofy. I'm referring to things such as being destructive, inconsiderate, or thinking ONLY day-to-day and only about one's self.

I agree, but 18-25 year old guys are normally not as naive as 13-16 year old girls.

So let me get this straight. You talked with a 16-year old girl, wearing a mini skirt, about how Harvest Moon can be applied to real life. You then found out she was 16, so you didn't get her #, and have decided to frequent videogame stores mor often in order to pick up on chicks?

Although I know a few hot chicks who enjoy playing videogames, I have NEVER seen a hot chick at a videogame store. In fact, I RARELY see females at those places, and when I do, they're either parents buying games for their kids, or kids themselves.

Try a bar or something. :-p

I'm 20 and refuse to go under 18, i've never been with anyone younger than me though.

16 is fine as that is where \i started.

As long as she says she's legal and looks like she's hit the tail end of puberty, she's old enough.

Anyone who cannot handle the consequences of sex (read: PREGNANCY) should not have sex. Period.

I would say at least 18, even then I have met some pretty immature 18 year olds in my time.

Well, if you know of a better place to meet grrl gamers, then I'd like to hear it :)

LANs? -Adding text to meet length requirements-

Should just follow this, at least you won't go to jail!

http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm

This thread again? I say raise the age of consent to 99 in ALL countries! Builds character!
(99 is the age I plan to lose my virginity)

I had a friend who had a 14 yr old girl friend and had sex with her at that age, he was 18 at the time. And I totally disagreed with what he said, I thought it was the worst thing he could've done. (a few months later he did worse, but thats another thread). I'm going to have to stay silent on this though, what age is definately a hot topic. I think there are certain teenagers that are more mature than others at a younger age. But I feel that there are certain unwritten rules about sex, like the age limit. (well where I live there is) Sex is between two consenting people, it should stay between those two. Considering my current situation, I cannot really add anymore than that.

When the cops show up.

Try internet cafes. ;)