How young is too young?
 

The thread about the 10- and 11-year olds being prostituted got me thinking. First of all, let me say that 10 and 11 IS TOO YOUNG!!!! OK, that said, the Net is replete with Barely Legal, and Teens Galore, etc., etc., etc. So, apparently all are agreed that 18 is as young as you should go. But, a lot of the pictures fuel the fantasy of girls who are younger than 18. So, how young is too young fellas?

To be fair, I'll answer my own question. (And at the risk of sounding like a pervert.) Teen pics are definitely a turn-on for me. The young body, smooth skin, innocent looks... And the fact that the legal age is set at 18 seems to remove the guilty feelings of looking at girls that are so much younger than me. But honestly, I've been to the mall and seen girls who I know are 16, but look HOT! Even girls who are 14 seem to be looking good these days, but girls' fashion is very revealing these days. Now, I'm DEFINITELY not saying I'd have sex with a 14-year old girl. (Don't come hunting me down just yet!) I'm NOT into kiddie porn. But, is that where things are heading, what with Tiffany Teen and whatnot?

evidently urbanization(indoor lights,hormones in food) is having effects on women's biology nowadays. it used to be that menstration started at 14 or 15 now its common at 11 or 12 so the women are maturing faster evidently. there are alot of girls out there that are genetically equivalent to 18 year olds at 16. there is no way tell how mature they actually are so we slapped on the 18 limit(it's lower in other countries and states though i think). I'm not supportive of underage sex however especially since there is too many dumb people out there.

16 is the age in which girls can consent to sex in Australia, so that'd be it for me. Although i am 19, almost 20, so thats getting a little dodgy, although depends on how mature they are. Also, some 14 year olds do look hot and a lot older, although i wouldn't sleep with one cause i couldn't live with myself and also its against the law (here and i imagine everywhere else). Although, remember girls mature quicker than boys.

Does statutory rape still count as rape? If so, i've been raped before :p in the eye of the law. I am not trying to trivialise rape, but i found that funny, when i learned that guys age was set to 18 to consent to sex.

Girls are maturing too fast now, IMO. I wasnt thinking sex at all at 14, 15, 16. Maybe I'm just weird, I dunno. 14, 15 is too young. Sure, it all depends on the person. But when I hear about a person (boy or girl) having sex before the age of 16, I cringe.

They have to be at least 18, AND reasonably mature.

at least in my opinion. Whether they look young is irrelevant.

Hmmmm. I plead the fifth, I think.

Anything below 18 is too young, 18 is around the age you stop growing, therefore I'd say that is the age that girls are ready.

And johnny I think many women have smooth skin and innocent looks, they don't have to be 16 or 17. Sure it's not too common but hey it's something you can set your eye on

At the risk of incriminating myself, I refuse to answer the question in a public forum:p


But, I definately see your point, and I agree with most of what you are saying.


But, incase there are law enforcement officials who read this board. I did not say anything. Johnnymysto was the one who said underage chicks are hot looking. :lol:

Girls these days are dressing and acting much older than they are. I was fooled at a wedding when I thought this girl was 20, when she was actaully 14. Now I was with my wife, and we were guessing her age together, to see if we were right, and we were both way off. 18 is the legal age, and I'm sticking to that answer. Of course that chances for me to be with an 18 yr old is none, since I want to stay married and all.

18.

I think 16 and younger, their minds are still developing and most younger girls are very immature.

I'm 25, and under the right circumstances I could go as low as 17. As long as she's out of high school

It's strange that, as I've seen children grow into women, I can't get the fact that I saw them as babies out of my mind.

So while the fantasy answer is 18, the reality of it is I would likely draw the line around 30.

I think some of you are kidding yourselves, but maybe i'm wrong.

I think 15 is too young. Hands-down. But 16 is where maturity can play a large role in whether or not it's ok. Of course, depending on local law, that may or may not be illegal- remember not everyone lives in the US, and ages are different all over the world.

It's called that because it's defined as sexual relation with someone who's not yet the statutory age of consent. It basically means that just because you didn't force it, and they wanted it, you still can't do it. They're not "old enough" to make that decision for themselves.

Good thread, keep it going!

I know of 14 year olds that look like 18 year olds. They are fully "developed" if you know what I mean. 16 would be a safe age, but if you are under 20 than 15 isn't too bad. It's pretty much a matter of how old the guy is. If he is like 17, than 14 year old girls are ok (i'd say 14 is the cut, younger than that and they aren't even in high school). If the guy is like 25 then anything under 18 is just wrong. But for some reason, a 40 year old man and a 20 year old woman is seen as normal and accepted in society.

They are too young when you start worrying that they might be too young. 18 is my lowest limit. I'm going to be 25 next month.. No piece of ass is worth getting pounded in my own.

In Canada:
All province and territory ages of sexual consent are 14 for oral sex, and 18 for anal sex.
http://www.geocities.com/glbt_cbs/Ca...ualRights.html

I don't know how I feel about age of consent laws because they're so subjective and based on the morals of lawmakers (not necessarily the people).

Exactly.

And yes, girls are DEFINITLY looking way to mature/sexually dressed/older for thier own good.

The age for consesual sex is 15 in Denmark, where I live. Now, I'm 23, so I'd definitely have to think long and hard (no pun intended) about it before having sex with someone that young. But given that right set of circumstances(if I were convinced she knew what she was doing, she wasn't drunk/high/etc...) I'd probably go that low. But honestly I don't know... Under the legal limit is definitely too young. That's why the legal limit is there... BTW I agree with all the above points about how younger girls are developing earlier these days...

They may be developing faster physically, but I think mentally they are still immature. Thats my 2 cents.

The simple fact that my <i>daughter</i> just turned 16 last month should give some indicaton of what <i>my</i> answer to that question would be. Although...I will confess to having to do a double take at some of the girls that she goes to school with. And here all this time I thought that the school had a dress code.

I honestly can't give a specific age, but I will say that girls these days are maturing far faster. There was a time when you could look at a girl and say with reasonable certainty that she was legal or not. Now it's almost impossible. It is to the point now where a guy should ask to see ID before going any further, just to protect himself.

Mentally, wow.. that's tough to gauge. How does one set a bar for mental maturity? I have seen 20 year olds far less mature than some 15 year olds, and some 15 year olds that act their age. It's an impossible question I am afraid.

If I had a daughter, I am sure it would be different, but 16 would probably be a good age. However, I don't think that a 30 or 40 year old person should be taking on a 16 year old.

Indeed Johnny. Indeed.

Age is just a number, even if the number is underage. I think in our society's sexually-drenched media and entertainment girls and boy are growing up a lot faster now since they are exposed to these things a lot sooner.

Children are being made into sex objects...children see these examples and emulate them. My kid watched a couple of teen singer's vids like Britney, etc. and at the age of 6 she dressed up in some new clothes we'd gotten for school and did a little dance where at the end she bent over and smacked her behind suggestively. She was informed that wasn't appropos behavior for her age but I had to explain why because I always hated "because I said so" as a kid.

She isn't allowed to watch adult channels, and I see things like this on Nick sometimes. Little girls are being turned into sex objects as young as possible now to sell products to other little girls who want to be grown ups. All of this has a snowball effect on sexual maturity.I also think hormones in food are a factor. I see alot of girls who are young with large breasts more than I did at that age. One time I saw a cute girl who looked about 15 and I thought in a couple three years she'd be dating material. She turned out to be 11 :(. I was flabbergasted as she had about a C cup and looked very much like 15 year olds I lusted after when I was 15 myself.

Girls are no longer girls, they are young women who know as much about sex or more than their parents. Most females I have personally know had sex by the age of 14 at the latest and a couple had it at 12 the first time! I didn't get laid until I was 18.

Do I say it's all open season then? No. I think that if a girl (16+) can handle a relationship with a man (18+) and they make no attempt to cover it up and the parents are ok with the man then it makes no difference. I have seen a couple parents who have done just this and both times the man was open with them and met them and didn't try to hide away. In one case they learned to trust him (he was about 24 at the time, she was just 17) and let her go with him on weekends. It can work if maturity is involved, and I think a lot of teen girls can benefit from the stability and experience of an older man, provided he is mature and stable.

The key words here are maturity and consent, which no law can accurately predict the level of maturity of any given person. I still think there should be ages of consent as a kind of blanket protection but they should not be any higher than 16. 16 year olds these days are the same in the ways of sex as 21 year olds 15 years ago.

I agree with tinfoil. 16 should be a good age. It's crazy that they charge kids who are both under 18 (but over 16) with statutory rape. Hell, most of us would wind up being charged. If they can charge, as an adult, kids as young as 15 with murder, they should allow 16 year olds to have sex. Anything under 16 is off limits.

Out of highschool.

With that said, heh, Meff was 17 1/2 when we got married. Heh. But I agree that *both* parties concerned should be mature, so that means if you're an immature 30 year old, don't fuck.:lol:

If the two of us would look like a normal couple to a stranger, I think its ok (as long as she's mentally fine). I'm still young enough that some technically underage girls could fit this description.

This discussion reminds me of all the fantasies I had when I was 12 or so. If only some ~20 y/o woman would have "raped" me :p.

I just graduated from highschool this year.. and most of the freshmen girls looked like seniors or older.. I mean wtf. And it sucks being 18 now.. because in the eye of a lot of people if I look at girls around 16 like that I'm a perv and could be arrested if anything happened.. really sucks.

How old were you when you had sex the first time?
I was 15, and it only lasted 2 years in spite of everything being amazing. We was too young. I couldn't support a family. Our personalities were still changing radically. I didn't understand life. I'd say when I was 21 I was ready to start.

I'd want to be with a lady who was mature and able to cope with life cheerfully. Someone who was "clothed in strength and dignity, smiling at the future." The youngest woman I've met that struck me as possessing these qualities was 19.

The 5th Amendment is a powerful tool, isn't it?

There's nothing I can say here that hasn't already been said. Well-thought-out ideas in the thread.

:thumbsup:

I think it's a question of psychological maturity, a maturity that I think happens after 17/18.

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The situation on age vs sexuality is amazing. How young can a girl be to be "hot"? Well, let's say Catherine Zeta Jones... if she was 14 and looks like she does now, I think I'd probably be looking at jail time, if presented an opportunity to indulge in that physical pleasure.. But if she opened her mouth and sounded like a twit, like MANY 14 year olds, and plenty of 18 year old girls have.. It'd be all off.

It really is based on maturity from an emotional standpoint. The problem is that is terribly subjective. As a result, SOME kind of law was put in place to protect the more vulnerable. The only way to give that law an OBJECTIVE measurement was to use the age.

If we go back in time a few years, most all of us would find that our grandmothers or great grandmothers were married pretty young by today's standards. It was perfectly acceptible, if not expected back then to have your 14 year old daughter married off...

Why not today? Well, Society and education are far more complex. Our lives are governed by so much more now that it takes longer to prepare our children to function in society. It takes longer to socialize them, longer to educate them, and longer for them to mature to the point where they actually can leave home. The problem is that physiologically, they are "ready" for sex at the same time as they ever were. (yes, around 14-ish) <uh, coach says if there's grass on the field it's playable>

It makes for some difficulty, especially when our religious values are set up the way they are... Is it REALLY reasonable to believe that we can keep kids from doing what comes naturally? Especially if they start getting the "urge" at 14 and don't get married until 25 or so??? That is not a terribly well considered prospect, christian or not.

What do I find hot?? Honestly? I prefer a more mature woman (always have). I like them with some experience, so they know what they like, and are willing to share that with me. :-)

Let's say "Catherine Zeta Jones"...
http://www.celebritywallpapers.com/i...ezetajones.jpg

everyone is saying now a days, kids are maturing faster. i hafta agree and disagree. they maybe maturing faster then say 30-40 years ago but if we remember our history, back in the 1700s, it was very common for 14 year old girls to get married. No, not to teen age old boys, but old farts that are around 40-60 years old. This wasnt just in the 1700s, this happened way before and continued, in some places, for atleast another 200 years. Granted, life expectancy was shorter in the past and giving birth was a serious health risk, but the fact that old geezers were marrying very young girls and having them bare their children still remains.

but answering the question by applying it to myself: i personally like girls that are around my age, very close in age actually. i can talk to older women and younger girls just fine but i think i connect much better, socially and emotionally, to females that are about my age.

it's weird as i'm getting older to realise how yougn these kids are. i'm 19. and i can remember being 13, thinking in a very sexual way, and wanting guys. i would have thought at the time that i could have handled sex if i had met what i thought was the right guy, i'm sure. but now i think of that age and it's just unreal. i have a guy friend who looks a lot younger than he is (20) and he's always being approached by like 15 and 16 year olds. but it's weird for him, cause you know in your head that they're just kids but some of them are really hot. i always wonder how much weirder it would get as we get older. this was a really entertaining forum, thanks. but for all those people who comment and say that they don't have to say anything, i don't see why you bothered to comment.

Re: How young is too young?
 

Sorry to include the whole original post here, but I have a very intereseting story that is right in line with this topic.

First of all I feel the whole age thing is individual in that I think it really is based upon your moral issues with it, as well as your local laws. (READ: I am not condoning sex with a person under the legal age!.. ) I am just saying that not every state (or country for that matter) Have the same legal age requirements... I highly reccommend looking into that before persuing anything further.

That said, It really depends (In my opinion) on the mental state (maturity) of the two involved.

I was in a situation recently where I was approached by a young lady who had definate interest in me. She had just moved back in with her mother (my neighbor) and every now and again we talk and flirt a little. Not knowing her age at the point, I was thinking she was of "Legal age". (I thought she was in her early twenties.) So naturally being a guy, I would kinda make little comments to her in a flirtatious sort of way, and then one evening she sorta called me on it.

I was shocked, as well as flattered.. I couldn't help but think wow she is actually interested in persuing something!? I am in my 30s mind you, and when the opportunity presented it's self again, I asked her how old she was.. she was 17! 17!!! I was like oh! man! (the little devil in me started to whisper in my ear..) I was like - um, yea, not gonna happen... This gal was very mature for her age not only physically but mentally as well. she is finishing up school, was working two jobs, One of which was with the local fire dept. In further conversations on the subject, she assured me that the legal age of consent for my state was 17.. I was like ya whatever... I looked it up, and yes sure enough, it is! She had mentioned she is interested in older men she was recently dating someone in his mid twenties, but they had broken up. I told her my age and then re-emphesized it again, and she was totally fine with it. She said She was still interested in meeting up one night when her mother was off to work. (My jaw about hit the floor.)

About a week later, I saw her again, and she came over and asked me to leave my front door open that night.. I was like Huh? she told me again, and I was like.. OK. will do. I thought about it all evening. and Frankly I was excited. I think it was the "every man's dream" aspect of it, needless to say I did leave the door open. I wanted to call her bluff.... I won't go into who's bluff was called.. ahem.. :hmm:

On a side note, I saw her the other day and she mentioned to me that she has met someone her age and they are "hanging out" now.. Whew!

True story.

F

Any woman under the age of 59 is utterly unacceptable.

Um... I'm 22. I've never dated a girl over the age of 19. Now, that was all well and good when I was 16-20. But now that I'm over the age of 21 and mostly go to places that are 21 and up it's getting really hard to date anyone younger then 21. Needless to say I still won't go any younger then 19.

More power to ya bub! hehe.. :D

F

If there is grass on the field, let's play

i´ve only ever dated girls who are older than me.

but if i had my interest piqued by a younger girl, she´d have to be legal, mature and capable of holding a decent conversation.

what a thread, damn! interesting posts. No comment here

That doesn't indicate anything to me. There are so many different opinions on how people should raise their children that I don't know what you're implying. Please clarify.

Hmmm...I kinda thought that it was self-explanitory, but reading back, I guess not. My daughter is 16, and as such, that particular 16 year old is to young. That being said, I was 16 when I lost my virginity to a 17 year old, and that fact is not lost on me. Double standard? You're damn right it is, but I claim parental perogative on this one. Of course she could be 25 and I still would think that she is to young. It's a perspective thing.

If there ever was a reason for the 5th, this is it.

Um yeah, wow. I won't touch a girl that can't at least buy herself a drink.

Call me new-fashioned, but people are such an emotional crapshoot anyways, and it only gets worse as one goes farther down in age. I have trouble even with women my age (24) who have no idea what it means to function as an adult.

Yeah I know, and I agree; men can be just as bad. I have no gender bias.

In Spain, children who can't even see over a bar countertop can order pints................................

decided not to wade through all these posts, so forgive me if i'm repeating anything...

i think there's a distinct difference between ocularity and sexuality. i know i enjoy looking at women, and that given the current fashion trends and maturity-rate, it sometimes goes down to 16 or 17 years old 'fore i realize that i'm casing some prime jail material.
that said, i think it's a huge risk to engage in sexual activity with anyone younger than a college student. having noted the huge difference in maturity and philosophical outlook in me when i got through my first year in college, i would assume the same change of personality in anyone else. therefore, anything below a college student i think is too large a gap.

a good portion (10-25%) of my college are students who are under 18 and as young as 15. i recently went on a camping trip with a club at my college and more than half weren't of drinking/gambling age. where am i going with all this nitpicking?
my point is that when it comes to age, it's very unsafe to assume you're safe based on general observations (like college students are older than 16 or 17). if you happen to meet that needle-in-a-haystack-minor and assume she's older just because she's in college, you can get yourself into a lot of trouble (here, at least). you're better off asking instead of assuming.

as for the guy above, thinking it's all cool if a girl can buy alcohol may work in this country, but be warned if she got it via fake ID or if you ever visit outside of the US. things are very different elsewhere. the average drinking age is 18, but can go even lower and is not as enforced as it is here.

be careful.

Its in the milk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's disgusting QuasiMojo ;) ;) ;)

I drink insane amounts of milk. If it's in the milk, then why don't I have overdeveloped jugglies?! D: Gazongas even run in my family!! I got shortchanged, mang.

In England its 16 years old, but even worse is Holland where the legal age for sex is 12. Unbelievable, but true.

Is that true? I know that Holland can be a little er...different...yeah, that's it. But I have a hard time believing that it's legal to bang a 12 year old over there. If it's true, it would be a Pedaphile Meca. 12. They should still be playing with Barbie's and Easy Bake ovens.

gotta stick with 18

Well in your mind I suppose there is no too young. It doens't hurt to think about it. I'm not suggesting or condoning anyone's thoughts about 6 year olds but if it stays a thought no one's the wiser and it can't hurt. I think in reality 18 should be it. A lot of kids nowadays are having sex way to young and I really think it's messing a lot of people up.

I totally agree with you there. Emotions that come with sex can often mess younger people up. A study done in Australia recently found that theres 50% or so chance of girls in single-mother families to experience sex at an age earlier than 16, and on the other hand, in the female spectrum, girls between the ages of 14-16 are the most depressed, interesting facts. IMO, 14 is THE absolute minimum, no matter what, and thats if your under 20. If your over 20, I think I'd be sticking to the level of the law, which here where I live is 16.

Well, if you even look too close at the face of a 35 year old married mother in Jemen it might get you killed. If you fuck around with a women you are not married to in Turkey you could end up in jail.
International comparisons don't make much sense here I guess.
This is more a question of what each one of us thinks should be a legal or reasonable age.

I know quite a lot of teenagers since I teach. Most of them, even when they are close to 18, don't know anything about life, family, politics, society and so on.
To think that they could be fucking around and starting to get pregnant at this age or even below makes me loose my breakfast to the great white god.
Yes, even some really young girls look hot but I think they don't know what they are doing.
Me personally, I would not go near somebody below 18. Most probably I would be careful under 21.
Even if the legal age would be between 16 and 18 I seriously doubt whether it would be clever to have sex with someone that young if you are older.

Well answering this one from a girls perspective is a tough one... I was too you when I started, but I was stupid plus in a situation where there was not alot of options... But I can say by 14 I was personally mature enough to know what I was doing and especially to really really like it... Now I do know girls whos heads are not at that point at 14. But hey for me it was great.

To me the issue isn't even about what their bodies look like. Their mind is the real issue. That being said, I doubt any girl sub 18 is capable of dealing with it in a mature manner.

I would say in terms of my own daughter. I think 18 should be the limit of course that will depend on her maturity. BUT if she's determined and I feel she's mature enough then I think 16 would be the lowest limit. No matter what birth control choice that a girl makes there is still a small risk of pregnancy. For a girl under 16 to get pregnant is a big risk for her, disrupts her still maturing body, and under 16 she is not even able to support herself financially with a job without her parents consent. If you aren't mature and old enough to raise kids I don't think you should be fooling around. That said I was 24 before having sex and hubby was 21.

Imho, the age of consent should be 18.

what i dont get is...when i was 14 to 15 and up i never was thinking about sex and now im a month away from being 20 all i see around me is girls from the ages of 14 to 16 looking like they are 18 to 20 years old. what happened here? i never remember girls looking that way when i was that young and also whats going on where girls and boys are expermenting with sexual stuff right out of 5th grade!?!?! i mean damn what happened to our country? :confused:

I am 26 and I don't think I have anything to gain mentally or physically from a young girl. Some are great to look at, but they do not have enough experience with life, sex, or the ways of the world to promote a mutually benefitical relationship.

I do understand the reason to have a legal age limit to concentual sex, but I can also see where a younger person, male or female, could learn a lot from dating someone older. IF the older person has a truly altruistic motive.

exactly

Easy:
F/M
12/any Wrong!
13/any wrong!
14/14-15
15/15-17
16/16-18
17/17-19
18/18-22
after nineteen it's your own business...

It totally depends on the age level of the participants. IMO, if the girl is under age 18, the guy better not be much older than 19. There is just too much of a difference in maturity at that age. When I was 18, I met 3 girls at a mall (13, barely 15 and 16). I ended up sleeping with one of the girls (the 15 year old who said she was 16) a few weeks later on. When I found out she was 15, it really bothered me at the time as it felt like she was just too young for me. Her friend (the 13 year old) asked to lose her virginity to me. I said absolutely no. As I got older, the range expanded. My wife is about 3 years younger than me, and I have slept with women 7 years younger and up to 13 years older than me. As were consenting adults at the time, it didn't bother me. However it was strange to think that when I was 18, these same women were 11 and 31.

I missed it! arrgh! :(

There are certainly a lot of 14-16 year olds that are "hot". I know of a couple daughters of friends that look much older than their 14 years. One has fake ID that says she's 20!

Of course by "looking older" i mean they have some pretty sizable boobs. Back when i was that age girls were flatter than a prairie freeway. I've seen many 13 year olds with D cups spilling half out of their low cut tops.

Nice to look at and of course it's not like i'd ever get the opportunity to touch anyways.

sex limit in my country is 16 and I remember the days wanting htat limit lowerd so dad would let me bring home my girl.

I dont really check the age of a possiblilty If she seems mature and good for me I'm all for it.

Some of us actually prefer them smaller (and perkier)... which may also help to explain our attraction to young girls. Now I realize that not all young girls have small breasts, but many do. I also have a thing for petite. Young women often just look more sexy to me.

Have you ever heard the song by custom called "Hey Mister"

Well, it's a classic and i am sure that every guy out there can relate and every father of a teenage girl will cringe. (It's the old double standard isn't it. Boys are encouraged to chase girls to their heart's content, girls are kept a close eye on.)



Here's the lyrics......


Hey Mister I really like your daughter,
I'd like to eat her like ice cream
maybe dip her in chocolate

Hey Mister on your way over
in your Volvo, suit, and tie
Well, be crawling in your bed soon
messing around, maybe getting high

It's not what ya did,
It's not what ya didn't
God gave her a perfect body
and now I'm all up in it.

It's not she's a tramp.
It's not she's not pure.
She just likes getting her fuck on,
and its good for that I'm sure

Hey Mister I really like your daughter.
When I'm horny like thirsty
She's a bottle of water.

Hey Mister how'd it get so bad
You raised her so well
and now she's calling me dad
in the back seat naked of a new Volkswagen
the perfect little gift for high school graduation.

It's not what ya did,
It's not what ya didn't
God gave her a perfect body
and now I'm all up in it.

It's not she's a tramp.
It's not she's not pure.
She just likes getting her fuck on,
and its good for that I'm sure

Nana na nana na,
Nana na nana na,
Nana na nana na,
ha hahaha ha ha haha

I eat all the food in your fridge
Call my friends around the world
Rack up your long distance do
Breakstands neutral drops
Wreck all your cars
Drink all the booze in your cheezy ass wet bar
Order stuff on your credit cards
Leave boogers in the skippy jar
Smoke your cigars
Answer the phone tell your boss you moved to mars
When you call in late from work tell your wife
You're at the titty bars

It's not what ya did,
It's not what ya didn't
God gave her a perfect body
and now I'm all up in it.

It's not she's a tramp.
It's not she's not pure.
She just likes getting her fuck on,
and its good for that I'm sure

I can't lie I have to tell the truth
My commandments says I'm a total spoof
Your daughter's a freak
Your daughter's a pro
When i'm done with her
She'll do one of your bros

I hope I'll never have a daughter
I hope I'll never have a daughter
I hope I'll never have a daughter
I hope I'll never have a daughter

Nana na nana na,
Nana na nana na,
Nana na nana na,
Nana na nana naaaaaa

I would have to say 18 cause lots of people are having sex and some are having kids at 16 and they have to depend on their parents to take care of the baby while they finish school and that just isnt right to me!!!!!11111

Well, sorry to go against the flow here.... but I just got out of a relationship with a 16 yr. old. And she just turned 16 too. Both her and my parents were ok with it, so we saw no reason to hold ourselves back from being together. She was much more mature at 15 and 16 then most 30 yr olds can even dream of.

my friend was 9 when she lost her virginity....

i did a lot of water quality studies when i was in high school with the state and we found that when water was purified, estrogen wasnt filtered out... so basically on top of what a young girl's body produces theyre getting even more out of tap water. and theyre starting to believe that is another reason for girls maturing so fast. kinda scary if they dont figure out something to do about that.

I say 17. I noticed a big jump in maturity between guys and girls who are 16 and those who are 17, though my girlfriend was 17 and I was 16.

already been said, but its really the maturity of the person. My g/f's first was when she was 15, with me. I think that, for the most part, 14 is too young, but if you are able to truly think responsibly about it, then you are old enough, I think. (then again, that excludes a lot of my friends here in college, whose mental age is in the single digits :P )

scott

I hope I at least get credit for not pleading the 5th before I get blasted...

since highschool kids are like 14-18, then 14 is the min if you yourself are in hs. once you hit college, try to stick with college kids or older hs kids (aka 17+)

Im in my late 30's and I find womyn near to my age, and 10 years either side my age sttractive. I can't imagine being with anyone younger than 26.

I think 18 is as young as it should go--anything below that and it starts making people think it's ok to go for girls younger than that when they're too old. girls younger than that may be mature, but for the sake of society it's much better if we don't go lower.

Does no one else see a problem with that? Jeeez...she should be playing Barbies, and selling Girls Scout cookies...not getting laid. :eek: And before I rant any further...I assume that it was a mutual consentual kinda thing? It wasn't forced? :( If it WAS consentual...what was the age of her partner? Not that I suppose that matters. :mad:

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I'd say maybe 16 or 17. Depends on the girl.

16 is as low as I will go at 19. And did so last weekend. My friend had a party and his sister's young, tanned little girlfriend was all up in my shit the second she walked in. What am I gonna do, tell her no?

Anything under 18 is too young. Except, apparently, in Romania.

I think it's quite relevant. This is the *world* wide web. People from different countries read this site. To assume everyone is from the same place as you would be incorrect. Furthermore, people on tfp often don't fill in their profile and you have no clue where they're from. So I'm just trying to point out the fact that it's not just the people from whatever country it is you're from, it's an internationally accessed site. It's not that I'm comparing.

It's always an option to say no, unless for whatever reason it puts your life or others in danger. I hardly doubt that was the case, though.

Indeed, she threatened to murder my family if I did not have sex with her. And so, I did. It was sacrifice that needed to be made.

I lost my virginity at 12 and had my first period at age 10. I was one of the hot 14 yr olds bebotting around the mall. The guys that slept with me at the time claim I acted and looked older than my age. I really think they say that to make themselves feel better about what they are doing because they were so much older than me. No matter how smart a young kid seems they are still emotionally immature. Now that I'm actually legal I feel totally disgusted by those people, knowing they were willing to screw a little kid technically.

Also tip for the guys, old guys checking out young girls, is totally gross! We would call those pervs. Chester the Molestor.

I think that the consenting age in the US being 18 works out well when you compare it to the other priveleges...if only they would move drinking to 18 as well. But the way these girls are developing, I wouldn't be outraged if they moved it down to 17. Then again, there are psychological factors involved, so to avoid complications, I would leave it at 18.

I'm not very experienced sexually, so maybe I'm missing something, but what exactly does everyone mean by "emotional maturity?" I can understand wanting a relationship with someone of a certain mental "level" or whatever, but sex alone is much simpler. Stick A into B. Repeat. Birth control and worrying about diseases are the only "mature" things I can think of, and these are really not very complex.

Speaking from personal experience, 6 years old is definitely too young. Before ya'll start stoning me, know that I was the unfortunate 6 year old in that situation.

I think that because of my early life experiences and the issues that it caused in my life that I am particularly sensitive to age when it comes to sex. I think a girl or boy at age 16 *can* be mature enough to decide to have sex but only if it's with someone close to their age. The fumblings of youth can be ok to go through with someone at the same age but if it's someone older then I see it as taking advantage of someone who's mentally undeveloped.

No matter how developed their body might be, their brain still needs a little work.

18, well, whatever floats your boat. It's legal and all that. Though, I think it's still easy to take advantage of the innocence of youth and immaturity at that point.

Course, all that being said, I still will do a double take at a good midriff, even if it's someone young-ish looking. It takes a moment for my higher brain functioning to kick in and go 'oh hey, stop that'.

Sorry, even 18 years olds are too young for me these days.
When I start seeing them act, how they talk, move, etc.
Just are little girls still...they are going to be changing SO much in the next years.

I guess I have to relate to a woman mentally on a certain level.
That's why I'm only really attracted to who are 25+.
MAYBE I would go for someone younger by a few years than that.
But she'd have to have her head on straight.

I like more curves usually, how a mature woman holds herself,
and is comfortable with herself.

I'd say the youngest I'd be interested in would be 21,
I need them to be able to hang with me.

And visually, that's what goes for me too.

It really all depends on the age of the person answering this question.

Im 18, so obviously I would not limit the age of my g/f to the same standards as rogue, above (25+). If I were to do that, Id be pretty lonely.

Age is relative, and it really isnt that important. What matters is how old you are in your mind, and this has already been noted.

btw, Vyk your post says 6 years old, not 16 on the first line...

Being attracted to girls who are under the age of 18 is not wrong - it's built into our brains. We're monkeys, that's the deal.

But not being a responsible monkey IS wrong.

The number is there, the law is there. Agree or disagree on your own terms, but realize that there are reprecussions for your actions.

If you don't do time, you still might fuck someone up sexually for a long, long time. I've dated a few girls who had sex as young as thirteen (with guys I later had to hurt), and it does some real damage to a girl to take on adult responsibilities and roles that early.

Bad shit.

That said - my first sexual experience was at the tender age of 15 with a young lady a year older than me.

We were young and stupid and in love. Fortunately we were smart enough to use protection.

At the time it was the greatest thing that ever happened to me. I don't particularly think that it was wrong nowadays. Would I boff a a sixteen year old today? Hell no. Would I boff a twenty year old? Probably not.

If she ain't legal to drink, she ain't ready to make a decision like about me sticking my dick in her holiest of holies.

That's just my two cents.

That's the noblest thing I've ever heard, hparcins.

*grin*

Funnist thing I've read all day, too. Kudos.

When I was 16 I dated a 26 year old. I made the choice not to have sex with him. I wasn't sure I wa mature enough to handel things going bad and keep my grades together. The irony is that that is the kind of thinking that would suggest I was mature enough. As it was I waited untill I was 20.

I would have to disagree that girls are looking older then they have in the past. I think Aral (sp?)Flynn would disagree as well. They might be dressing more provocatively due to media influence, but, they don't really understand who sexually suggestive they are.Lolita was just a young girl who didn't get that Humbert was thinking dirty thoughts about her, she was just a child trying to get her way.
With that,18 is an age where mind and body tend to meet

there are two diffinitive things that govern whether things are right or wrong:

a-age gap, if a 18 year old was going out with 15/16, it would be seen as acceptable, but even 20 with 16 is seen as a strech. fortunatly that only works from male to female, otherwise me and mf g/f would be screwed...:crazy:

b-maturity, i know 13 year old girls who can hold down an argument with a 60 year old philosiphy teacher, and 19 year olds who get confused by shiney things. if a girl is mature enough to understand how things will affect her e.t.c then things do change than if she's just playing with barbie.

although it's probably been said before, those two things will usually govern everyone who isn't a townie/rude boy/pikey decisions.

it's all relevant, and depending on the type of relations, if it's just holding hands, then most people would accept a lot younger, but if sexual relations of any kind are involved, then things get a lot more tricky.

Hopefully it has been established that just because a female has begun menstruating, it does not mean she's ready for sex. I started at 8 - I didn't even know what sex was. Why some men think this is an adequate sign of maturity I will never understand. A 16 with a 16 or 17 year old is entirely different than a 16 with a 36 or 46 year old.

Alright -- here is my rule of thumb:

I will not date anyone who is younger than 1/2 my age +7. Try it out on yourself. Seems to work. So for me that would be 33/2+7 when rounded up -- 24.

YO GUYS!!! LISTEN UP!!! My daughter? Yeah...too young. Grrrr

This thread makes me feel kind of uncomfortable, I think it is very difficult for me to rationally have a discussion with someone who is my age or older and is saying they are attracted to a 14 year old... So I guess I'll just leave all that part.

For me, the age of consent in the UK is 16, but I wouldnt consider sleeping with anyone under the age of 18 - and although I can objectively tell that, for example, Mary Kate Olsen is very pretty, I probably wouldnt tend to be attracted to people who appear to be that age.