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sound chaser 08-25-2008 07:23 PM

Chubby women - yea or nay?
 
I'm currently chatting on MSN with some women who, shall we say, have a few extra pounds. I'm not knocking overweight women at all, and I don't all at mean to be offensive here. But it seems over the past few years I've started to like chubby (but not obese) women.

Do many men like chubby women? Or does society say that slim is beautiful (and is it just the media who push that)?

dlish 08-25-2008 07:29 PM

each person has their own unquie taste in women. i dont particularly find even mildly overweight women attractive to me.

my test is the ribcage test. if you can see her ribcage shes in with a chance. and NO im not into anorexic chicks.

snowy 08-25-2008 07:32 PM

Wow, what a question.

I have been the chubby girl, and let me tell you, I had no problem getting guys. At all. Most good men seem to realize there is more to a woman than her weight. However, there will always be some men out there who are hopelessly shallow and can't look past that few extra pounds, which is unfortunate.

One of the things I truly love about my SO is that he loves me no matter what size I am; chubby or skinny, he doesn't care.

And yes, I think the media push the idea of slim being beautiful, and the association of slimness with being healthy and fit, which isn't necessarily true: Well - Weight as Main Measure of Health May Be Misguided - NYTimes.com In the process, they have brainwashed some young men into believing that a woman must look just so, when in fact real women come in all kinds of shapes and sizes, not all of them slender.

vancityboi 08-25-2008 07:46 PM

id have to go nay, i prefer my women petite/skinny/small ...not short :D.

Baraka_Guru 08-25-2008 08:08 PM

To clarify, the question is "yea or nay?" not "chubby or skinny?"

So my answer is yea!

Willravel 08-25-2008 08:12 PM

For me chubby generally is a negative point, but quite frankly it's not terribly important in the grand scheme of things.

Martian 08-25-2008 08:46 PM

I reckon that as long as a girl takes care of herself, whatever her natural body shape happens to be is okay. Some girls just happen to be curvier than others. Me, I kind of like the curves.

I've dated slender girls, so-called 'chubby' girls, tall girls, short girls. If I've learned anything from it all, it's that there are more important things than a woman's dress size.

Nobody would describe Magpie as petite. She has a couple of extra pounds on her. She also happens to be intelligent, funny, mature and artistic. We get along better than I would've thought possible. Which of these things do you think is more important to me? Which would be more important to you?

I don't really care about the guys who are so superficial that they require a model perfect woman regardless of her personality. As far as I'm concerned, it means less competition for the ladies who are actually worth having.

EDIT - I missed dlish's post, but it's interesting to me. I'm actually the opposite; being able to see a girl's ribcage is a bit of a turn-off for me. I don't think it's particularly healthy to be that thin.

jorgelito 08-25-2008 09:22 PM

Distribution is important. I prefer curvy or womanly girls. Visible rib cage is disgusting. Chubby and obese, eh, too unhealthy.

Starkizzer 08-25-2008 09:34 PM

As a chubby girl myself I say YEA. More cushion for the pushin!

Chubby for the win.

Manic_Skafe 08-25-2008 09:44 PM

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Jetée 08-25-2008 09:47 PM

If I could be as happy as Brosnan is, for sure.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...IG_468x434.jpg

healer 08-25-2008 10:46 PM

Black girls
White girls
Skinny girls
Fat girls
Tall girls
Small girls
I'm callin' all girls!

Both mandy and I can be classified as chubby. I most definitely prefer full-figured women with curves rather than ones with visible ribcages. I love that there's always some flesh to grab onto when I touch her.

And there's nothing like hitting a nice round booty from the back. :thumbsup:

abaya 08-26-2008 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Starkizzer (Post 2513078)
More cushion for the pushin!

AMEN, sistah!! I'm all about the curves, and my husband is as well... and hey, as long as I'm able to run for 60 mins non-stop (like I did for Saturday's 10k), I don't really care what my body looks like. That's what matters to me, not my "chubby" tummy or thighs.

Martian has the best post on this thread. :thumbsup: Right on, man.

World's King 08-26-2008 01:05 AM

I do like me a nice healthy girl...

FuriousAvatar 08-26-2008 02:58 AM

Certainly, YEA! I dated a woman who could be classified as "chubby," and she was very beautiful. I find women of many shapes and sizes to be attractive, and it mostly has to do with their attitude. There is a limit on both how skinny or how big a woman is for me to be attractive, however-rib cages are a total turnoff, but if I cannot physically carry a woman (and I'm a large man), I probably wouldn't find her that attractive.

mixedmedia 08-26-2008 03:40 AM

I love the look of fat under a woman's skin. It looks soft, curvaceous, touchable, luxurious. It looks right.

The_Jazz 08-26-2008 03:56 AM

It all depends. Is she a bitch or not?

I married a "woman with curves". I love all of them. Am I attreacted to some skinny women? Absolutely. But others annoy ther fuck out of me.

But if the question is if we're fetishizing chubby, that's not my bag. But then again neither is skinny.

Poppinjay 08-26-2008 04:09 AM

Funny, I was just thinking about this yesterday, when I heard the term, "muffin top" for the first time.

Some extra weight is definitely one of those traits that will turn my head.

Halx 08-26-2008 04:40 AM

Its all about the proportion. As long as you hold your weight and are not spilling over, then I can possibly find you attractive.

LoganSnake 08-26-2008 05:52 AM

How chubby are we talking about? Because chubby to some is fat to me.

I generally prefer girls on the skinnier side of chubby, but who are still soft to the touch.

canuckguy 08-26-2008 06:25 AM

I prefer the girls I date to be a bit chubby, but don't seek them out. I get disgusted when I see obese people, but LOVE a chubby girl who is self confident. Same goes for skinny, if i can see your ribs, yuck! I just think I'll break you in two if we had sex!

My current SO has a bit of extra meat on her and I think she looks fantastic. She exercises regularly and hangs in with my epic bike rides with ease most people to see her would think she sits on her couch and eats, not so.

I like my women to look like women, tits and ass baby. The more the better!

btw is it wrong that I think that a man who says he only dates skinny chicks but is overweight himself is a asshole, but i am skinny/normal size (well 6ft 185lbs) and I like my women bigger?

Poppinjay 08-26-2008 06:30 AM

Would you think a skinny guy who only dates chubby chics is an asshole?

canuckguy 08-26-2008 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Poppinjay (Post 2513234)
Would you think a skinny guy who only dates chubby chics is an asshole?


There are too many variables I think to nail down each scenario but I was thinking that a guy who wants his girlfriend to be model thin yet he looks like fat bastard is a double standard. This does not take into effect that maybe she likes fat dudes...etc

Just in general when people hold others to a set of standards they don't follow themselves. Again everyone can live there life as they see fit, just it irks me a bit.

sound chaser 08-26-2008 06:59 AM

canuck guy
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btw is it wrong that I think that a man who says he only dates skinny chicks but is overweight himself is a asshole, but i am skinny/normal size (well 6ft 185lbs) and I like my women bigger?
Perhaps it depends on his reasons. If a man is say 290 pounds and only likes to date 120 lbs women because he thinks overweight women are digusting, then I'd think that was being hypocritical. if it's just an aesthetic thing, then i wouldn't see much problem in it.

PonyPotato 08-26-2008 07:19 AM

I don't date women so I don't have much of an opinion. I have dated men of all different body shapes/types, though, and I must say that I prefer athletic, possibly with a little extra weight on top.

Leto 08-26-2008 07:26 AM

Bring 'em on!

highthief 08-26-2008 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2513028)
each person has their own unquie taste in women.

And that's all there is to it, really. We're all wired a little differently as to our tastes and preferences.

I have generally gone for more petite women - both Mrs. Highthief Mark I and Mark II are in the 120 pound range, although both are proportioned quite differently, with Mark I bustier and Mark II sportier.

I have a muscular build - some women like it, some don't. So long as there are enough who appreciate that, it's fine.

Lasereth 08-26-2008 07:43 AM

Definitely a yea. Until recently I actually preferred them but now I have a preference for women of all sizes equally.

kutulu 08-26-2008 07:48 AM

It depends on how chubby we are talking about. They don't need to look like a porn star but I don't want them too large.

Willravel 08-26-2008 08:19 AM

Maybe we should categorize this by BMI or something. It seems people are willing to move into overweight a bit, but within reason. I'd probably stay under a BMI of 27ish, depending greatly on other attributes.

dlish 08-26-2008 08:54 AM

maybe you should start a "whats your BMI thread" will

LoganSnake 08-26-2008 09:07 AM

According to this: Calculate your BMI - Standard BMI Calculator

My BMI is 18.8.

Starkizzer 08-26-2008 09:11 AM

Problem is BMI is not the only way to look at size. To get and more accurate and healthy idea you should take into account weight, waist measurment, and BMI. A person could have a high BMI and just have more muscle or a low BMI but have very little muscle tone.

According to BMI a "normal range" is 18.5-24.9. To fall just barely inside of this range I would have to weight 168lbs. For my height and bone structure I don't think this will ever happen. I'm aiming for 170-175 but in that range I would still be considered overweight. At least I no longer fall into the "obese" category!

Hellcattx 08-26-2008 09:15 AM

I married a Chubby one 18 years ago, and I wouldn't think of anything else!!!

Definite YEA!!!

curiousbear 08-26-2008 09:19 AM

yea
but not a fat abdomen or too huge butt. it prevents some possibilities.

Willravel 08-26-2008 09:41 AM

I'm lean at 6'0 and 175. Maybe the BMI thing is broken because it says I'm 23.5. Maybe body fat percentage would be a better measurement?

canuckguy 08-26-2008 10:01 AM

I thought we had discuss previously that BMI was an outdated way to tell if your healthy, overweight...etc? Or was that another measurement? I forget either way.

I agree with most of the comments, it is all personal preference when it comes to the opposite sex...or same sex if that is your bag. I've liked girls who are big, small, tall and short, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

jewels 08-26-2008 10:06 AM

Everyone's definition of fat and chubby are different. What one man sees as fat, another sees as voluptuous.

How about:

Picture 1, girl A, B or C
http://tragicallyunhip.files.wordpre...__470x3930.jpg

This one's a plus-sized model. Would most consider her fat?
(Picture 2)
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...03_468x974.jpg

I can't believe this one is considered plus-sized ...
(Picture 3)
http://www.curvystyle.com/Crystal.jpg

That's just insane.

levite 08-26-2008 10:08 AM

I like pretty much all girls.

Some of the girls I've been craziest for have been tall and slim and built like ballerinas.

But most of the girls I've gone for are...shall we say, built like lusty tavern wenches. I am old-fashioned: I like a girl who looks like she could serve me a jug of mead and a haunch of venison, beat off the rowdies with a broadsword, and then go upstairs with me for a wrestling match in the hay. These types of girls, whom I might call "voluptuous," some might call being built on the more generous side of the spectrum. Girls who are a real armful, who look like they need a real hero to pleasure them...yes indeedy, they get my fire lit pretty damn fast!

Personally, I wouldn't use the word "chubby" to describe any girl I've been with. But I know others might, and have.

canuckguy 08-26-2008 10:11 AM

I'd hit any of those chicks (based on looks of course).

Picture one, the middle (B) and right (C) ones are hott. Model (A) needs a sammich....kidding of course. But yes she does nothing for me.
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Originally Posted by levite (Post 2513333)
Personally, I wouldn't use the word "chubby" to describe any girl I've been with. But I know others might, and have.

I personally don't use that word myself (beyond this thread) as it seems to have negative undertones.

I like curvy as the descriptive word.

snowy 08-26-2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canuckguy (Post 2513328)
I thought we had discuss previously that BMI was an outdated way to tell if your healthy, overweight...etc? Or was that another measurement? I forget either way.

I agree with most of the comments, it is all personal preference when it comes to the opposite sex...or same sex if that is your bag. I've liked girls who are big, small, tall and short, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

If people had bothered to read the article I linked to in my post, they might find out there is a whole body of research out there that basically shows us that thin does not always equal healthy, and that BMI is NOT a good measurement of fitness or health:

Quote:

Better to Be Fat and Fit Than Skinny and Unfit: Often, a visit to the doctor’s office starts with a weigh-in. But is a person’s weight really a reliable indicator of overall health?   click to show 


canuckguy 08-26-2008 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by onesnowyowl (Post 2513337)
If people had bothered to read the article I linked to in my post, they might find out there is a whole body of research out there that basically shows us that thin does not always equal healthy, and that BMI is NOT a good measurement of fitness or health:

Sorry I'll make sure to read the entire article and posts before responding in the future.

Willravel 08-26-2008 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onesnowyowl (Post 2513337)
If people had bothered to read the article I linked to in my post, they might find out there is a whole body of research out there that basically shows us that thin does not always equal healthy, and that BMI is NOT a good measurement of fitness or health:

Maybe I should rephrase it then. I'm not interested in dating someone who has unhealthy diet habits or that's physically lazy, especially if those behaviors/decisions are reflected in her appearance. I know plenty of women with 'healthy' physiques that have terrible diet and exercise habits, and I know some 'plus-size' women who are very responsible so far as diet and exercise. I'd be more interested in seeing the latter because not only is it something we could enjoy together, but it's a sign of attributes like maturity and discipline. Those score really high in my book.

http://tragicallyunhip.files.wordpre...__470x3930.jpg
Yes, yes, and yes, physically. C is probably near the cusp, but I could see myself dating someone in that shape.

Borla 08-26-2008 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2513331)

How about:

Picture 1, girl A, B or C
http://tragicallyunhip.files.wordpre...__470x3930.jpg



Personally, I'd have a hard time deciding between B and C for my favorite. Probably B by a tiny margin, but C would be WAY ahead of A in my book. A woman is supposed to have some curves.

Obviously, being a healthy weight is important, but I'd rather a girl have 10lbs too many than 10lbs too few.

Daniel_ 08-26-2008 11:42 AM

If I was single and at a party, I'd walk past A, maybe say "Hi" to B, and offer a drink to C in the hope that she'd talk to me.

I'm 6'2" and overweight; I have never been able to lust after skinny women for fear that I'd break them.

dlish 08-26-2008 11:42 AM

C is a no-go for me...unless i was seduced, but that different.

but off the bat, its gotta be B then A

thespian86 08-26-2008 11:47 AM

It isn't a case of being shallow; the moment I say "I don't want her because..." etc then I might stop myself and look around.

Personally I date dancers usually, usually contemporary; girls who are thin but not ballet thin, with legs. It just happens because of my social circles; plus I love a girl who can dance contemporary is hot. To me.

I was seeing a girl named Mel a month ago and she was kind of chubby but she was a horrible kisser and kind of judgemental so I ended it.

That's how I feel about it.

Willravel 08-26-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2513376)
C is a no-go for me...unless i was seduced...

Don't they all do that? :confused:

dlish 08-26-2008 11:57 AM

haha! well if i look at it like that..

if i was going to be seduced id want to be seduced by B, then A, then C

C is still a possibility. Ais a probability, B is a definately

abaya 08-26-2008 12:00 PM

Wow. Interesting responses. A looks downright sick to me, and B is not far behind her... but that's my bias. Is B supposed to be the "ideal" shape that most men think is "perfect?"... (what is that photo, anyway?)

Personally, with ktsp's build being what it is (he's tall and thin), I'm very grateful for the meat and fat on my bones because otherwise, his pelvic bone would drill a hole in my thighs or ass every time I get pounded during sex. Cushion = good. I like having a body that can handle being fucked as hard as he can give it. If that means I'm a C, then bring it on! :suave:

Lasereth 08-26-2008 12:04 PM

C is definitely the most attractive, then B, then A. A is still a bit too thin for me though.

LoganSnake 08-26-2008 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2513331)
How about:

Picture 1, girl A, B or C
http://tragicallyunhip.files.wordpre...__470x3930.jpg

The sexiest one is B. However, I don't think I'd have much problem with C. A is too skinny for me to find attractive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2513331)

This one's a plus-sized model. Would most consider her fat?
(Picture 2)
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...03_468x974.jpg

I would.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2513331)
I can't believe this one is considered plus-sized ...
(Picture 3)
http://www.curvystyle.com/Crystal.jpg

That's just insane.

Yeah, she's not fat fat, but she's not the Standard Model Skinny As Hell. Hence the label. I'd do her though.

curiousbear 08-26-2008 12:48 PM

some it also depends the guy's build. I liked B a lot. If I had been a very tall well built, I may have liked C more

jewels 08-26-2008 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abaya (Post 2513388)
Is B supposed to be the "ideal" shape that most men think is "perfect?"... (what is that photo, anyway?)

I agree. Very interesting.

I think I searched images for "large curvy women" or somesuch and it was amongst the images. Go figure.

Willravel 08-26-2008 01:07 PM

I happen to prefer the woman in the center, physically.

Still, they are clearly all models which might shift around the preferences. The third woman is much more beautiful than many women thinner than she.

kutulu 08-26-2008 01:28 PM

Pic 1: I'd rank them B, A, C but C is still pretty. The better question is how much are they photoshopped?

Pic 2: Too big.

Pic 3: She looks fine (photoshop?) but I hate that hair. She's definitely plus sized, how much does the suit control her stomach?

highthief 08-26-2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abaya (Post 2513388)
Wow. Interesting responses. A looks downright sick to me, and B is not far behind her... but that's my bias. Is B supposed to be the "ideal" shape that most men think is "perfect?"... (what is that photo, anyway?)

See, here's the problem. If I say "C looks like a fat cow", I'd get jumped on. But a lot of people criticize slim women very harshly (as in "A looks downright sick") and get away with it.

As to the picture, it's B, then A, then C - but that's just personal taste and I wouldn't denigrate the heavier model in any way.

kutulu 08-26-2008 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by highthief (Post 2513484)
See, here's the problem. If I say "C looks like a fat cow", I'd get jumped on. But a lot of people criticize slim women very harshly (as in "A looks downright sick") and get away with it.

Typical double standard. That's how it always works.

Psycho Dad 08-26-2008 02:41 PM

A few nights ago I got in on the tail end of an old Real Sex episode on HBO. The topic dealt with a home made porn movie competition. From what I saw, many of the women were what our society would call fat. The way they were comfortable with presenting themselves on video, not only in a competition, but on an HBO series that would be seen by millions was the sexiest thing.

I'd rather experience a woman who is comfortable with her sexuality and who she is than something we have been conditioned to think is sexy.

LoganSnake 08-26-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Dad (Post 2513501)
A few nights ago I got in on the tail end of an old Real Sex episode on HBO. The topic dealt with a home made porn movie competition. From what I saw, many of the women were what our society would call fat. The way they were comfortable with presenting themselves on video, not only in a competition, but on an HBO series that would be seen by millions was the sexiest thing.

I'd rather experience a woman who is comfortable with her sexuality and who she is than something we have been conditioned to think is sexy.

Sure, but even the most comfortable woman on earth will not be attractive to me if she's outside of my attractiveness zone.

inBOIL 08-26-2008 03:28 PM

I prefer women in the middle 2/3 of the bell curve. As for ribs showing, my ribs are visible and I have a beer belly. Granted, women's bodies are different from men's, but neither visible ribs nor a prominent belly are signs that someone's unhealthy.

curiousbear 08-26-2008 03:38 PM

attraction is one thing... who is easy & effective to make them feel good? i have heard that skinny girls are difficult to please and chubby girls are easy to arouse and please. Not my personal opinion or experience thou

canuckguy 08-26-2008 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kutulu (Post 2513485)
Typical double standard. That's how it always works.

Quote:

Originally Posted by highthief (Post 2513484)
See, here's the problem. If I say "C looks like a fat cow", I'd get jumped on. But a lot of people criticize slim women very harshly (as in "A looks downright sick") and get away with it.



These types of double standards bother me and i am guilty of them myself sometimes.
-----Added 26/8/2008 at 08 : 13 : 24-----
Quote:

Originally Posted by abaya (Post 2513388)
Wow. Interesting responses. A looks downright sick to me, and B is not far behind her... but that's my bias. Is B supposed to be the "ideal" shape that most men think is "perfect?"... (what is that photo, anyway?)



I know that this is just opinion but i am curious what you think of C?

If you think B looks almost sick which i almost dropped my glass after reading, I am curious. I still go with B and C look normal, and A needs a good meal. (sorry a joke see double standard above).





/sorry abaya I reread your comments and now understand what you think of C. I will leave it unedited though.

abaya 08-26-2008 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highthief (Post 2513484)
See, here's the problem. If I say "C looks like a fat cow", I'd get jumped on. But a lot of people criticize slim women very harshly (as in "A looks downright sick") and get away with it.

No. When I say she looks downright sick, I mean it... she looks like she is unhealthy. If C was obese and looked unhealthy, I most definitely would have said that as well... I am not a fan of unhealthy, obese figures, either. But C appears to be quite robust and healthy, and nowhere near "sick," at least in the physical sense that A looks. So is that really a double standard? I'm sure someone will inform me soon enough. :)

sound chaser 08-26-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willravel (Post 2513366)
Maybe I should rephrase it then. I'm not interested in dating someone who has unhealthy diet habits or that's physically lazy, especially if those behaviors/decisions are reflected in her appearance. I know plenty of women with 'healthy' physiques that have terrible diet and exercise habits, and I know some 'plus-size' women who are very responsible so far as diet and exercise. I'd be more interested in seeing the latter because not only is it something we could enjoy together, but it's a sign of attributes like maturity and discipline. Those score really high in my book.

http://tragicallyunhip.files.wordpre...__470x3930.jpg
Yes, yes, and yes, physically. C is probably near the cusp, but I could see myself dating someone in that shape.

If I were at a party and saw A, i'd walk past. She looks anorexic and she'd probably have issues. B is nice, but I prefer C. I'd love to get inside C's pants if it were the last thing I did..lol

im2smrt4u 08-26-2008 10:16 PM

Chubby women are awesome! C all the way!

Jenna 08-26-2008 11:38 PM

I love women with curves. And if that means chubby, then, yep! I happen to love big boobs, and it's rare to find a very thin, petite woman with huge breasts. It looks unnatural anyway.

Girl C is definitely my type.

I wouldn't consider any of those women fat, I would consider them "curvy."

highthief 08-27-2008 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by abaya (Post 2513623)
No. When I say she looks downright sick, I mean it... she looks like she is unhealthy. If C was obese and looked unhealthy, I most definitely would have said that as well... I am not a fan of unhealthy, obese figures, either. But C appears to be quite robust and healthy, and nowhere near "sick," at least in the physical sense that A looks. So is that really a double standard? I'm sure someone will inform me soon enough. :)

C looks like a heart attack waiting to happen. I feel better!

Really, your comment on A is a double standard. Some people are thin - not becuase they have an eating disorder, but because genetically, they are thin. Some people carry extra weight around - again, this may not be because they eat too much and exercise too little (although that is the case for most overweight folks) - but because they have a biological predisposition towards being heavy.

B is easily the healthiest looking woman of the three and personally, she is the most attractive body wise.

abaya 08-27-2008 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by highthief (Post 2513850)
Really, your comment on A is a double standard. Some people are thin - not becuase they have an eating disorder, but because genetically, they are thin.

I'm quite aware of this fact. I know plenty of naturally thin people. But I have never known anyone to look THAT thin (as A does), unless they are anorexic or starving themselves on purpose (or just plain starving, because of poverty). That kind of thinness is simply not natural, and it's not healthy.

I would not say that B looks unhealthy--but she is still below average. Maybe that's a good thing. But yes, she does look healthier than A.
Quote:

Originally Posted by highthief
Some people carry extra weight around - again, this may not be because they eat too much and exercise too little (although that is the case for most overweight folks) - but because they have a biological predisposition towards being heavy.

I'm also well-aware of this fact. However, there's a difference between carrying extra weight naturally, and being morbidly obese (which girl C is far, far from being)... which would be at the other unhealthy extreme from A. Being bony-thin or morbidly obese are both unhealthy figures to have. From the picture here, person A looks sick. B is okay. C is also just fine. I still see no double-standard here, and I'm done arguing about it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by highthief
personally, she is the most attractive body wise.

That's fine. We all have our own standards for what is "attractive," which may or may not be different from what is "healthy."

PlanG 08-27-2008 02:56 AM

I'll go for nay.

However, I wouldn't like skinny girls either.


standard sized girls, maybe a small tummy tops is where it's at!




EDIT:
just saw that pic.

C is chubby?

Hell.. C all the way! B too.. They're probably even. A is a no. (although in reality a yes ;) )

I'd say even more than C was still attractive. She's not chubby at all.

mixedmedia 08-27-2008 03:13 AM

Some women are meant to be thin and some women 'diet' to become thin. And you can usually tell the difference in the face.

Baraka_Guru 08-27-2008 03:43 AM

C to me is the sexiest. One reason why is because she looks the most able to bear my children. ;)

healer 08-27-2008 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia (Post 2513882)
Some women are meant to be thin and some women 'diet' to become thin. And you can usually tell the difference in the face.

Very true. Their faces tend to have a sunken look to them.

I can't stop looking at that picture of the three women though. The woman on the right is super-duper hot. I can't stop staring! :oogle:

Poppinjay 08-27-2008 04:32 AM

What's funny is that some people think C is chubby. She's teh hotness. The difference between looking at a Monet or dogs playing poker on velvet.

I dated a very slim girl. She was fine, albeit neurotic. She ate soup with a fork and screwed guys for confidence. I ended up with a "chubby" girl who can lift heavy things and have fun in a box.

abaya 08-27-2008 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mixedmedia (Post 2513882)
Some women are meant to be thin and some women 'diet' to become thin. And you can usually tell the difference in the face.

That's basically what I was trying to say. There's thin, and then there's unhealthy thin--and the same goes for "extra weight" vs. morbid obesity. And there's a whole lotta room in between those extremes, thank goodness! :thumbsup:

healer 08-27-2008 04:34 AM

The image originally comes from here.

PlanG 08-27-2008 07:26 AM

I'll admit I came back in the thread to check out that pic again. C is fine! :eek:

Porn should have more girls like her in it - most pornstars just look abnormal.

Daniel_ 08-27-2008 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by highthief (Post 2513484)
See, here's the problem. If I say "C looks like a fat cow", I'd get jumped on. But a lot of people criticize slim women very harshly (as in "A looks downright sick") and get away with it.


My feeling is that "downright sick" is an (albeit overly emphatic) way of making a statement about the apparent health of the woman, whereas "fat cow" is apparently a judgement call about her personality as well as her size.

If someone said "A looks like an anorexic bitch" that would be equivalent to "C looks like a fat cow" and both would be inappropriate in my book.

I think "A looks like she's starved herself" would be equivalent to "C looks like she's gorged herself"; and I think that from my perspective, the first girl doesn't appeal to me because I am a hedonist and an Epicurean - I love to eat good food and don't think that the really thin girl would be much fun in that regard.

Also, I love the sensual feel of flesh. I love to touch a willing, sensuous and pliable woman, but somehow a really skinny girl gives me the mental image of trying to fuck a xylophone.

jewels 08-27-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel_ (Post 2514079)
Also, I love the sensual feel of flesh. I love to touch a willing, sensuous and pliable woman, but somehow a really skinny girl gives me the mental image of trying to fuck a xylophone.

http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/animated/anim_63.gif

LoganSnake 08-27-2008 10:24 AM

This thread is raising all kinds of self esteem for naturally skinny women. If they're reading this, that is.

Eh, I guess we were due for one after the previous thread about fat people.

PonyPotato 08-27-2008 10:32 AM

I'm not a fan of the "she looks sickly" comments, nor the "she looks like a fat cow" comments. It is interesting to me to read that a good portion of the men on the board prefer larger women. I do wonder, however, if these same men would seek out porn with fuller figured women over the typical skinny-big-boobs women you seen in porn most of the time.

I'm not skinny like girl A in the photo, but I also don't have the boobs of girl B. I don't know where I would fit in the limited spectrum represented there.

jewels 08-27-2008 10:39 AM

I wonder, too, merlen.

I think most of us have some sort of preference, but as dlish said, he'd probably allow himself to be seduced by one who wasn't his type. Although my guess is that he isn't alone, I challenge you, dlish, to overcome your shallowness.

Can you truthfully say you'd screw someone who wasn't your type (again, via seduction), but wouldn't bother to get to know her? Or is it that you wouldn't want to be seen with her? :hmm:

Packin' my bags ...

Willravel 08-27-2008 10:51 AM

Porn isn't about forming a sexual relationship, it's simple id gratification.

As one many who can't stand most pornography, I can say that I don't enjoy the appearance of most porn stars. I remember the first time I saw Kobe Tai (I had to have been like 15) and I thought, "It's too bad she got those implants". She was almost certainly more beautiful before augmenting her very lean build with DDs. It creates a common look in pornography/Los Angeles, with a very, very lean build and unnaturally large breasts.

Each of the three women in the picture seem to have reasonably well proportioned bodies.

PlanG 08-27-2008 10:56 AM

I had a look for "fuller figured" porn, and by that I mean just normal looking people. However, it just leads down a road to properly fat women(especially searching for curvaceous), not just people like C.
Best compromise is amateur stuff on pornhub.
Absolute best is a girlfriend. :)

dlish 08-27-2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2514088)
I wonder, too, merlen.

I think most of us have some sort of preference, but as dlish said, he'd probably allow himself to be seduced by one who wasn't his type. Although my guess is that he isn't alone, I challenge you, dlish, to overcome your shallowness.

Can you truthfully say you'd screw someone who wasn't your type (again, via seduction), but wouldn't bother to get to know her? Or is it that you wouldn't want to be seen with her? :hmm:

Packin' my bags ...

leaving are we? tsk tsk.. afraid of my wrath? or are you in a rush to be somewhere?


jewels, most men think with one thing only..yes thats right..their brains. we dont need emotions, just chemical reactions.

we may be a derivative of the homo-erectus, but thats exactly what makes us better off as a human race. we run on visual reactions instead of emotional ones. some may call it testosterone, but at the end of the day we are all but creatures that roam the earth (some more than others), and even though men can be seduced through visual images, women can just as easily be seduced in other ways.

do i think its shallow that i used the seduction analogy? not really. it was just a litmus test to gauge the probablility of sleeping with someone and wasnt meant to mean that i would. wanting to and actually doing it are two totally different things.

BUT

lets say theoretically ok..that i did screw someone that i wasnt atracted to and that i didnt know..would i want to be seen with her?? probably not. especially if its a one night stand. why? cos if i didnt find her attractive in a physical emotional psychological metaphysical whichever-al kinda way, then i wouldnt pursue anything further.

so i throw the gauntlet to you jewels..

why do you assume that males are such primitive animals? seduction is a powerful thing and works on both sides, so i'd like you to explain to me how and why you think the female race is superior to males in regards to raw emotion.

Dano069 08-27-2008 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sound chaser (Post 2513024)
I'm currently chatting on MSN with some women who, shall we say, have a few extra pounds. I'm not knocking overweight women at all, and I don't all at mean to be offensive here. But it seems over the past few years I've started to like chubby (but not obese) women.

Do many men like chubby women? Or does society say that slim is beautiful (and is it just the media who push that)?

Big or small, I like them all. Nothing wrong with a woman who actually looks and feels like a real woman, not some pencil thin bony waif. I've dated both and found out the personality is a hell of a lot more important than if she is, or isn't, carrying some extra weight.

jewels 08-27-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2514127)
lets say theoretically ok..that i did screw someone that i wasnt atracted to and that i didnt know..would i want to be seen with her?? probably not. especially if its a one night stand. why? cos if i didnt find her attractive in a physical emotional psychological metaphysical whichever-al kinda way, then i wouldnt pursue anything further.

so i throw the gauntlet to you jewels..

why do you assume that males are such primitive animals? seduction is a powerful thing and works on both sides, so i'd like you to explain to me how and why you think the female race is superior to males in regards to raw emotion.

So, if I'm understanding what you're saying, she'd be good enough for your penis, but not good enough to hold your hand? Reminds me of the guys who will go down on a girl but think it's disgusting to borrow her toothbrush.

That's shallow and thusly primitive. Did I claim that we're superior? Hell, no. I've seduced; I've been seduced. We can be primitive, too.

As far as raw emotion... WTF? Did I say that?

Willravel 08-27-2008 12:21 PM

*Ducks*, whoa was that a gauntlet?! :confused:

levite 08-27-2008 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2513331)


No question, C is the hottie I would take a flying leap at. B is nice, but a little on the slim side. A is skinny, not slender in a good way. She looks like she needs a sandwich.

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Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2513331)
This one's a plus-sized model. Would most consider her fat?
(Picture 2)
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...03_468x974.jpg

Not fat. Hot!! I would shag that chick like a rug!


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Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2513331)
I can't believe this one is considered plus-sized ...
(Picture 3)
http://www.curvystyle.com/Crystal.jpg

That's just insane.

It is insane. She's a smokin' hottie. I would be all over her.

But all of this is just about general type. If you ask me, do you generally go for curvy or for tomboyish when it comes to girls, I say curvy. But I don't date abstractions, nor fuck 'em neither. I date/fuck people, and what attracts me to a girl is the whole package, not just body shape. A girl can have the most perfect curves in the world, and if she's a bitch, or a snotty whiner, or a fluff-head, it won't make a difference that's she's hot. Likewise, a girl can be a little too small and slender for my usual tastes, but if she's smart, funny, witty, sexy, adventurous, and so forth, she'll look pretty damn good to me.

dlish 08-27-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2514155)
So, if I'm understanding what you're saying, she'd be good enough for your penis, but not good enough to hold your hand? Reminds me of the guys who will go down on a girl but think it's disgusting to borrow her toothbrush.

That's shallow and thusly primitive. Did I claim that we're superior? Hell, no. I've seduced; I've been seduced. We can be primitive, too.

As far as raw emotion... WTF? Did I say that?


yes you did understand me correctly. one night stands happen all the time. lets be realistic about it. why is it necesary that you walk down the street with a total stranger? sure you looked after each others needs in a sexual way, but whos to say that you have to share more time with them? bada bing bada boom.

not encouraging the idea..just keepin it real

pass the toothbrush please

Willravel 08-27-2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by levite (Post 2514166)
No question, C is the hottie I would take a flying leap at.

Wait a second, you're G-d's chosen people AND you can fly? :eek:

jewels 08-27-2008 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dlish (Post 2514168)
yes you did understand me correctly. one night stands happen all the time. lets be realistic about it. why is it necesary that you walk down the street with a total stranger? sure you looked after each others needs in a sexual way, but whos to say that you have to share more time with them? bada bing bada boom.

not encouraging the idea..just keepin it real

pass the toothbrush please

Pffffttt! You miss the point completely, or maybe I'm just too emotional :devious:

I guess our difference is that although I'm as sexual as you (or any man) and might be prone to seduction at times, I wouldn't enjoy an appendage if I had no interest whatsoever in the carrying party. I'm not necessarily going to have to fall in love, but even the booty call friends should be friends - even if the only relationship is sexual- don't you think?

Oh and yes, I'm leaving town. Going to the beach, I think.

MSD 08-27-2008 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2513331)
Everyone's definition of fat and chubby are different. What one man sees as fat, another sees as voluptuous.

How about:

Picture 1, girl A, B or C
http://tragicallyunhip.files.wordpre...__470x3930.jpg

A looks like a runway model, B looks in shape and soft, 3 is what "curvy" and "voluptuous" meant before gigantic women misappropriated the terms.
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This one's a plus-sized model. Would most consider her fat?
(Picture 2)
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...03_468x974.jpg
I would. She's bigger than I find attractive and is overweight to the degree that I was when I considered myself "fat."

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I can't believe this one is considered plus-sized ...
(Picture 3)
http://www.curvystyle.com/Crystal.jpg

That's just insane.
No idea. From that picture I can't tell what she really looks like.
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Originally Posted by Willravel (Post 2514097)
As one many who can't stand most pornography, I can say that I don't enjoy the appearance of most porn stars. I remember the first time I saw Kobe Tai (I had to have been like 15) and I thought, "It's too bad she got those implants". She was almost certainly more beautiful before augmenting her very lean build with DDs. It creates a common look in pornography/Los Angeles, with a very, very lean build and unnaturally large breasts.

I had the same thought when she got the implants, although I thought it was more recently than that. I absolutely hate implants and they can make the most attractive woman instantly unattractive to me. I've seen thousands of women with them (including before/after shots from plastic surgeons, not all in person,) and I can count on one hand the number that I think looked good. Not all the real-life ones came with a before reference, but I still would prefer small breasts to huge lumps of silicone or plastic bags under the skin.

Willravel 08-27-2008 01:08 PM

Yeah, I agree. I won't say I don't support women (or men) getting plastic surgery, but I'd prefer it to fix something that was honestly wrong. I've seen women get implants after breast cancer, or people getting reconstructive surgery after an auto accident, and I can't support that enough.

LoganSnake 08-27-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2514155)
Reminds me of the guys who will go down on a girl but think it's disgusting to borrow her toothbrush.

I'm one of those guys. Sharing a toothbrush is nasty.

Tully Mars 08-27-2008 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Willravel (Post 2514190)
Yeah, I agree. I won't say I don't support women (or men) getting plastic surgery, but I'd prefer it to fix something that was honestly wrong. I've seen women get implants after breast cancer, or people getting reconstructive surgery after an auto accident, and I can't support that enough.

This is how I feel about it.

As for the female body type I prefer. I have to say healthy and real. I can be attracted to many different body types.

jorgelito 08-27-2008 02:37 PM

B is fine, C is on the chubby side, pic 2 is fat. Pic 3 is similar to C.

abaya 08-27-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2514178)
I wouldn't enjoy an appendage if I had no interest whatsoever in the carrying party. I'm not necessarily going to have to fall in love, but even the booty call friends should be friends - even if the only relationship is sexual- don't you think?

Jewels, while I agree with most of what you've said, and I don't necessarily agree with all that dlish has said--I do think that this is something that's very individual. There are plenty of both men and women who will have a one-night stand, simply because it satisfies a physical need--and many would prefer that person to in fact NOT be a friend, whatsoever. The person is more like a masturbation tool than someone to be "interested" in.

I don't fall into this category, but I don't have a moral problem with those who do. I can acknowledge that there are situations in which sex is really just sex.

jewels 08-28-2008 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by abaya (Post 2514242)
There are plenty of both men and women who will have a one-night stand, simply because it satisfies a physical need--and many would prefer that person to in fact NOT be a friend, whatsoever. The person is more like a masturbation tool than someone to be "interested" in.

I don't fall into this category, but I don't have a moral problem with those who do. I can acknowledge that there are situations in which sex is really just sex.

I've been one of those people at a period in my life. Sex was just sex. But I would never have engaged in sex with a guy that I felt would embarass me. I guess that's just me.

abaya 08-28-2008 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2514422)
But I would never have engaged in sex with a guy that I felt would embarass me.

Ah, I guess I didn't get that impression from what dlish said... I understood his meaning to be that a one-night stand is sometimes just that, and both people want to be rid of each other after a single use.

But I do also think that some people have different standards (e.g. pure self-centered sexual gratification, nothing else), and yes, they will fuck anything that moves, including someone that will embarrass them the next day. Once again, not my bag, but plenty of people do it on a regular basis. My observation is that it tends to be more men than women (that whole "pity fuck" thing, which I do judge as being despicable), but that's not a scientific study. :)


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