Recently my life has turned into a lot of what really amounts to short term relationships. And yes several one night stands, but usually it a week or so. I don't understand the local culture well when if comes to M/F relationships. Hell I got enough problems figuring out M/F relationships in my own culture. That leaves me with tourists (usually) as an only options. Tourists simply have to go home at some point. I get phone calls and e-mails but they taper off after about two weeks, I could almost mark it on my calendar. But one night stand or one week fling- I'm not sleeping someone I would be embarrassed with. That includes their appearance as well as their behavior and intellect.

For some reason I can't get a vision of some singer I saw a couple years backs. She was really hot. But she held up a can of "chicken of the sea" tuna and asked "so is this chicken or what?" Yeah, I'm not sleeping with that type of women. I used to work with a guy who did the singles scene a lot. He was never looking for marriage, think his longest relationship was 3 mos. He told me once "2X's the IQ and it's a no go." I found out he meant if their weight is more then double their IQ he passed. So I of course asked if she's a Mensa member she can be nearly 300lbs?

That would be Jessica Simpson. I think the whole chicken thing has been pretty much exposed as just a silly plot line for TV show.

Porn stars haven't done anything for me since I a kid. If I'm going to look at naked people, I'll go to priceless420 where it's not even amatuer, it's just candid snapshots.

So that was an act? Ok, well I still stand by my comment. I've known people like this, male and female. I'm not sleeping with a women like this.


Usually by the time a chick becomes a porn "star" they're full of silicon, not my thing. I prefer amateur type porn. But I'm not looking for any type of plot when viewing porn. I if want a plot I'll watch the latest Morgan Freeman et el flick.

I would watch porn if Morgan Freeman narrated it. I mean besides, "I wish I could tell you Andy Dufrane fought the good fight..."

hehe.

I loved Shawshank.

My 63 year old father is looking over my shoulder as I peruse this thread and points out something I didn't think of. Assuming that all three of these women are, say, 22 years old at this time, and we look toward the future, which would be the most attractive at ages 40, 50, or 60?
Since most of us tend to put on a few (or quite a few) pounds as we get older, both Dad and I think that C will probably turn out to be just huge (without mentioning any animals) in another 20 or 30 years. Even though she's a little too thin now, Dad picks A as the one to bet on for the long term. And he's been watching girls since Eisenhower was President in the 1950s.

Lindy

it just depends on how chubby she is

Interesting take. Still, the first woman may be as skinny as she is because she has an eating disorder (not that she does, she may). The long term effect of an eating disorder is pretty horrible, physically (and emotionally). The woman in the middle seems to have the healthiest lifestyle, assuming we're playing to averages.

Still, a lot of that strikes me as oversimplification. The third woman may maintain her weight via diet and exercise. The first woman may simply have the thin phenotype. The second woman may even be plastic.

I may be oldfasioned, but give me a woman who sparks me on more then one level and I am hers. A woman's weight has little to do with chemestry!!!!

I must be tired. I read it twice and read "give me a woman who spanks me". :expressionless:

In general, I like curves, & if that means a little meat on the bones that's fine.

I also know thin women who are pretty, fit, intelligent, humorous, educated, & caring. In other words, very attractive on several levels.

First a disclaimer, yes I realize that I am discussing the women in the pictures like cuts of meat. As near as I can tell that is the tone necessary for this thread. This is not the only thing I could consider in real life, not is it even important if I am attracted to a woman.

For the quick summary,

I usually like my women just on the larger side of average, however it really comes down to how their individual body suits them and their personality.

I wouldn't say no to any (of these, damn it lets be honest and forget the part between the parens) women.

I would however walk away from A or B buying me drinks (I usually can't get women to let me buy them drinks in case you are wondering) just so I can make contact with C at a party. There is no contest.

I am also a legs guy, lets look at the leg tone of these 3 women, A has bad musculature (but what I can see of her face reminds me of Fiona from Burn Notice, why do I like bitches?), B has better structure, but could use some curves, C is the epitome of said curves.

Woman 2 is very beautiful, I would do anything she asked if she promised not to stand like that again, or smile so tall, top gums smiles don't work with her teeth, it is not working for her.

Woman 3 is welcome to cal me at anytime to do anything she wants.

I used to be as skinny as A, and people would ask me if I was anorexic. I wasn't, I love my food. I used to eat what I wanted when I wanted, and never gain a pound. So I'm sorry to say that comments like "she looks downright sick" are a little hurtful. Some people are naturally thin like that. I don't think she looks unhealthy, just thin. I agree it may be too thin and it's nicer to have some curves, but some things just can't be helped.

I'd say these days I'm close to B, with less boobs and thinner legs. So I'm not sure where I fit there. between A and B I guess.

I think all three are outwardly beautiful in different ways. I think as long as you feel well and stay healthy (eat well and exercise), that's all that matters. Fat or thin. I try not to judge others based on their appearance, if I can help it.

Well, that is another story :surprised:

FAT WOMEN
 

I dont mind fat girls, i like big rumps bt within reason, Trouble with fat girls is they sweat a fair bit,

I am pretty close to the B body type (maybe a tad skinnier). My BMI is 23.2 - right in the middle of the "normal weight" range. If you consider that below average, what do you consider average?

I don't mean average in terms of BMI... I mean average, as in when I go to the mall and see your "average American woman" walking around shopping, someone in her 30s-40s who has already had a couple of kids, and maybe has a little pudge around the middle. I feel that those women should not have to feel "fat" just because they are "average," and not feel pressure to have to get down to the "B" body type (which I associate more with college-age bodies, before childbearing sets in). Of course, there are all different sizes of women at all ages, I recognize that. But that's my image of "average," and if I look like that when I'm that age, I'd like to think that I'll feel okay with that.

I'm going to say "Hell to the YEAH" to the chubbies. I love love love sex with them, my last girl was thick 'n' juicy like girl C. So soft and she felt so good against me.

I have a lot of love to give and I need a lot of girl to give it to.

Chubby, yes. Fat, no. Bone skinny, no. The point that the woman loses her feminine shape, I'm outta there. I like all kinds really, but not the extremes.....

Good thing too, cause I'm chubby, and don't need another hypocrisy in my personal philosophy.

I'm not into 'chubby' women, by that I mean overweight. I like chubby women - I love the pictures on the first page of the plus sized model (she's quite cute) so I would say that that particular size I like, but nothing more than that.

I prefer chubby. Seeing a chick's ribcage turns me off.

Chubby girls just look like they know how to enjoy life. By enjoying life I don't mean compulsive overeating, but in general not worrying about eating more than an apple for breakfast. Eat the fucking muffin. None of us lives forever. Being too thin is something I associate, perhaps unfairly, with having a stick up one's ass.

I read somewhere "Anything more than a handful is too much "

That girl is hardly fat. Sure, she's a little solid, but I wouldn't go so far as to say she's fat!:eek:

So is that how you honestly feel, too, or do you just repeat things that you read elsewhere, and accept them to be true?

I have REALLLLLLLY BIG hands. :)

I honestly feel anything more than a mouthful is too much!
Now too much is not in a bad sense. It just means it is abundant. You dont need that to get hot or like a girl.

Now what turns me really ON is how much it is against gravity. So mostly smallers ones are against gravity and I like them more
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now please do not assume I hate big boobs or hangers!!!

Every individual can go a different way for me. Usually it depends more on the face than the body. But, ya, in general I like fit women. But hey, I'm rather lean myself and am very active.

Girls are either attractive or they're not... weight has only a small amount to do with that.

I agree, Zeraph. And while it is possible to be quite heavy, and still be healthy and fit (look at the linemen in the NFL) that wouldn't be the way to bet. It would be fun to re-run this thread with all of those pictures at the beginning not showing faces, but showing a rear view instead.

Lindy

Preferebly in a rear sexual position? a position that shows all the vitals... will help to make out how reachable they are.....

My cush offers something to grab on to in opportune moments.....Thank you very much.
-Red

Chubby women... YAY! Women in general... YAY! but mostly, YAY for women who can be themselves and enjoy it.

That picture with the baby-, mama- and papa-bear sized women is completely unrealistic. I can't believe how much it has already been discussed without more than one person saying it was photoshopped. I mean COME ON. I don't know where you all hang out, but I don't know any women the size of lady C who is in perfect proportion like that without looking muscular anywhere on her body. They ALL look fake because none of them have muscles! But most especially B & C. I could see A being a real photo because you can starve yourself to look like that, but when you get into the territory of B & C - it's virtually impossible to keep those proportions without working out and having muscles. They've obviously been smoothed out for the picture.

These improbably-shaped women have managed to help frame this thread in a way that health (and size) are determined solely by diet. Their sizes are irrelevant to their attractiveness. I mean, doesn't everybody know how our bodies like to gain fat in special places determined by our genes but that when we lose it, we lose it evenly all over our bodies? As women grow older, they don't just put on a few pounds... they look different because of all the ups and downs through life. I have been trying to "smooth my belly" for years, but now that it is actually getting smaller, I have lost so much fat all over my body that I am pretty sure my boobs have shrunk a good deal and my arms would look really bony if it weren't for the muscle. We are all shaped the way we are shaped, and based on that, we tend to look better at certain sizes. For instance, a woman who carries the weight in her hips (which is a traditionally womanly place to have curves) can put on a LOT more weight than I can before looking out of shape because I have always had narrow boy hips and a lower belly that sticks out. When I put on 5 lbs. of fat, I look disproportionately unhealthy.

Anyway, I could go on about this forever. My point is that the pictures are fake and size is moot. It's about relative proportions and where a woman wears the fat on her body.

I have had my share of each. I like the middle of the spectrum.

I don't mind a little meat on the bones, but obese is disgusting. I don't like cottage cheese, and I don't like an inordinate amount of rolls. But at the same time, too skinny is disgusting as well. It seems to me that most of the people on this thread prefer a middle ground.

WARNING! THREADJACK AHEAD! KEEP RIGHT!
Someone brought up models. Most models are unnattractive. They're waaaay too skinny. Waaaay too tall (I'm 6'1", and so I'm actually somewhat intimidated by girls taller than me), and many are just ugly as sin anyway, not that I'm god's gift to women or anything like that.

END RANT. LEFT LANE REOPENS 20 YARDS.

Felix, most women have cellulite somewhere. It just happens. I've met super-skinny girls who were freaked out by "orange peel" skin on their asses.

And once you get it, it's super hard to lose as a female. I won't say anything for men, because I don't know.

I don't like super-cut persons of either gender.
I considered myself obese at 220, and completely unhealthy at 128. I looked like my head was going to fall off my neck. It was obscene. But a lot of people still feel that 5'6" and 128 is a "healthy" weight. That being said, even when I had a strong muscular base, I looked "bigger" than average because of the extra looseness from when I weighed significantly more.
I'd rather be healthy and strong, no matter what it makes me look like compared to the atractiveness average. I've moved from building muscle to working on endurance partly because the moment I failed to properly address a muscle group, that area got big and soft. Which annoyed me personally. I don't know what it did to my perceived attractiveness. It makes me sad that my ex could not see past part of the weight issue and focused on poundage (there were other issues that compounded this) than health.
He fell out when I told him that in one of the pictures that he felt I looked "a little too skinny" I was at 143. :lol:

Ack, off topic. I am attracted to people that are comfortable in their skin, real, not afraid to walk around with clothes off and those who focus on their health. Not to obsession, but are conscious. I loved him when he was 220 and paunchy and when he was 195 and significantly trimmer and muscular. I like really, really strong healthy brains, too... not chubby brains.

That picture by Willravel is kind of a set up. The spectrum is as wide as all the 256*256*256 colors in the RGB scale. There is no way I can choose by not hurting someone's feelings.

That said, I wouldn't make a bee line for any of the girls faster than the other but C is looking mighty good for me right about now!

Hurting someone's feelings? You choose which is more attractive to you. I don't remember if I posted in this thread. Number B for me. Middle girls is perfect body-wise unless she doesn't have an ass. Then she's only perfect from the front.

What he said. While I prefer B, I do find C attractive, but let's face it if she puts on too much more weight she will no longer look healthily "chubby" and I will certainly find her less attractive. As it stands, she looks appropriate for her body type. A is the one I am least attracted to. She's just too skinny.

I have been reading this tread with interest. In the second reply it is asserted that men that "can't look past a few extra pounds" are "hopelessly shallow". Wouldn't then men who can't look past a bony ribcage also be hopelessly shallow? Or for that matter, those who exclude any "type" for a sexual encounter? The OP didn't strike me as asking about friends, but about what turns us on. I can be friends with anybody, but I don't want to fuck everybody. I mean, my parents (in their 70's) have great friends that are single, and I enjoy them thoroughly, but I don't want to sleep with them, and that doesn't make me shallow.

If you know what puts lead in your pencil (or whatever), and you're honest with yourself about it, it's really nobody's business unless you make it so. If someone has no problem getting laid, what do they care if there are people in the world that don't find them attractive as sex partners? Obviously from the posts here, there are plenty of people with varying tastes to take care of everyone.:thumbsup:

Yeah, this thread still makes me feel awkward.

Edit: I am still not skinny like "A" in the photo. I have some fat on my bones, but I am petite. Short, with a small waist. I have trouble finding clothing small enough for me sometimes, and it makes me sad. Dress Barn? Can't shop there. Their size 4 is like 2 sizes too large for me, while a size 4 elsewhere (NY&Co, for example) fits perfectly. Size 4 at some other stores is way too small, and it makes shopping difficult.

I am not what most people would call a size 2, but that's what most of the labels on my work clothes tell me.

I also find it interesting to note that some of the male posters here don't like skinny/small girls, yet commented favorably on my exhibition thread. Were you just lying to make me feel good, guys? :(

A. can be used to study skeletal structure. You can't.

My friend is bone thin.. has been mistaken for anorexic tons of times, but she's not. But, she also gets tons of guys wanting her.

I, on the other hand, am on the chubster side. My ideal weight is 140 lbs (I'm 5'2"). What kind of body is that? Probably like a C.

I think they might be trying to make themselves feel good! Maybe their SO is a little larger, or they themselves are.

Yeah, if you're a 4 in terms of sizes (the same as Mrs. Highthief), you're probably quite like model B, and a lot more likely to be mistaken for A rather than C.

For the record, I've been commenting favourably on both your pics and model B!

Yeah, PP, you're definitely more like B than A. Besides, A is fine, just not a preference is all. Plus, these are just generic examples. There are so many other factors that could make an A stunning or a B unattractive :)

Turns out it's politically incorrect to have a body type preference. All kinds of issues with this topic.

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Yeah, I demand a rear view of the models before I vote. I know for a fact that Model A has an ass like mine (like two slices of white bread stuck together).

Eeeh, nobody wants that.

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A, B, C? I've been with 'em all and as long as you've got muscle underneath the padding... C girls are as fun as B girls.

Diet, exercise, and overall health... not just the shape. You can't judge a car without looking under the hood.

You can have any body type and still be an unhealthy weakling... or you can be athletic and hourglass'd.

I'm built almost exactly like C. I've dieted down to B a few times, but I was miserable and frankly, not all that much more attractive. I concentrate now on lifting weights and fighting gravity with muscle growth. Works for me.

I'd go for C, personally I like chubby women as long as it's a 'healthy chubby',there's alot more to love .

I'd like to believe that it shouldn't matter. Having dated a couple of girls with some more fat on them, though, I realize it does for me.

Well I fit more into the rib cage genre it seems. I prefer skinny for myself personally due to family genetics and for personal confidenc. My moms side has a lot of really large people who struggle with their weight constantly and even more so with losing it if they fall off the bandwagon. I suppose I'm concerned that if I were to let myself go I wouldn't be able to get back to where I am now. Luckily I'm dating someone who loves how I look, and vice versa. We're healthy together and we stay active. That's what works for us.

I feel more confident being slim as a girl. I'm also quite active and lead an outdoorsy lifestyle so being chubby would put a damper on many of the things I enjoy like rock climbing, hiking, biking etc.

This gets to what I mean about other factors. How skinny or chubby someone is is less important than whether or not their weight fits their body type, and how toned they are. You're an athletic skinny, which is always a good thing. Nothing wrong with being able to see some ribcage if that's where your healthy weight is.

i like different types for different reasons... for me the primary ? is "how well taken care of or kept" are they. there's some heavier girls that have these great faces and get all flushed when they're happy, and they're knockouts. but then there's the insecure negative obese lady that doesn't feel normal unless she has something to worry about or stress over... they have this kind of pale sallow face thats hideous to me.

then on the skinny end of the spectrum, there's acrobatic and healthy, and then theres' scarecrow nervous chihuahua self esteem issues girl.

it's most about how you carry yourself and attitude conveyance that makes you shine or repel, i guess.

i don't like many euphemisms like "curvy" because the more negative crowd hides behind it to keep themselves from having to make positive or healthier changes to themselves. same deal with an unhealthy bone-y girl calling herself petite.

Love em!!!!

I completely agree!

im skinny, my girl is chubby. i love her, and thats all there is to it. size matters not to some (to an extent, at least.)

To be fair, I haven't read the whole thread. I've read enough, though, to get the idea that most of the men here consider "Girl C" to be a good example of chubby. I do not agree. She's the only girl in that line up that i find attractive, but she's on the small end of my preference. Don't get me wrong, I'd have sex with either of the other two, but I would not be calling.

I do not find skinny girls attractive, because every experience I've had with skinny girls has led me to believe that no skinny girl has a personality I can actually date and be happy with. I understand this is a gross generalization, but I'd rather just stick to the chubby girls I get along with (and find incredibly sexy, by the way) than risk my happiness on another skinny bitch who has no respect for, or real interest in me.

This may make me just as shallow as any person who will instantly discount a fat girl because of her size, but it keeps me happy. That's what's important to me, anyhow...

Plus, I like huge boobs, and most skinny girls don't come standard with those installed.

punk, have I told you lately that I love you?



I'll be honest, I think all three girls are attractive. I'm built more like the third girl, though, and I tend to, when I'm looking at other girls, like those with more curves. *shrug*

You haven't, and this is certainly not the post I would've figured to garner that response...

I'll take it where I can get it, though. Love you too, pretty lady!

My preference is B, but don't find the other examples hideous by any means.

That's all it is though - preference!

Yea!! since I am a chubby girl. Go Chubby!! For the win! :thumbsup:

Perhaps it's just me, but the only difference I see between A and B is an illusion. Girl B is turned toward the camera, and the angle draws our eyes farther accross her body. Turn A the same direction and I don't think you'd notice a difference.

That said, C please!

I like a woman with some extra curves, just shows that she has a oral fixation and enjoys her physical pleasures. I would choose C over B and A but would do any of them (or all three).

I will say I prefer plus size model girls!!!! OMG do I ever love them!!!!!

Depends on the woman. Not a chubby chaser, but I've sure ogled some mighty curvy women. Don't like skinny, but I've seen some lovely skinny women.

So I guess I'm saying "yes"

I just came here to say "good god yea"

Some men consider themselves "ass me" some are leg men, or boob men. I am a face man. If she has a pretty face, I will be drawn to that, the rest of the body can change and evolve, but the face stays the same.

heh. of all the posts to get me to jump back into the fray...

for those of you who remember me, the answer is fairly clear. for everyone else, an emphatic yes. I want curves, I want plush, I want comfort. it's all personal preference, but I think that sometimes chubby women get discouraged because of the douchebags out there that reject them for their weight, and then guys like me are left to dealt with the aftermath. I think more needs to be done to advocate body positivity, rather than unrealistic ideals.

well said.

and welcome back!

I think it's silly that everyone is figuring out their "type" based on some airbrushed photos of models where the biggest woman has ideal proportions and the best face of the bunch. If I were a basement dweller who observed society from the internet, I might think, after this thread, that most men prefer chubbier women. However, most women that big don't end up with the beautiful features, still-defined jawline, great skin, and ideal proportions of "C" or picture 3. Picture 2 is lumpier but still has a cute face. Woman "B" who is supposed to show a more "average" weight is kind of a set up, because the angle is about as unflattering as you can get (whereas C is at a flattering angle) and she seems to have no muscle tone (could be the airbrushing or way she's standing).

There are a million body types around and in between these long-limbed models, and in the real world, I'm sorry to say, I've never seen a man skip over my modelesque size 0 friends, my thick and muscley (or even average and soft) size 2-8 friends in his rush to talk to the size 14+ girl amongst us. Personally, I'm athletically built, curvaceous, and wide-boned. At 5'4'', I look best around 130 lbs. Still, at 155 lbs and size 8, nowhere near picture "C", random men took it upon themselves to comment on how I should "walk that weight off" on the street and I got a few "oh yes Trisk has a nice FACE" comments from women. I am grateful in some ways, because it was a wake up call, but I don't know how larger women manage, and I wish more people were as accepting of bigger women as this thread suggests.

The OP asked whether "society still says that slim is beautiful" and I'd have to say, at least in my city, that is very much the case. You still have to be thin, well-dressed and sometimes tall to get into a lot of NYC clubs and when I do go out, I'm often surprised at how many men crowd around the boniest of my friends. Sometimes I think it's a status thing - young guys want to date a girl who looks like a model. But who knows. I'm not a guy.

I think that people are perhaps being too harsh on the men in this forum who are not attracted to thicker women. I say this, and I myself am chubby. The thing is, everyone has a type. My boyfriend is tall, dark, and handsome, with broad shoulders and a muscular build. Many people do not find this type of man attractive. I have a lot of friends who are into more 'artsy' guys that are very thin and sort of trendy, for want of a better word. I, personally, find skinny men completely unattractive, so I can understand why a man would find me so. I would never date a man who was shorter than 5'10, and my ideal weight for a man is 180 (on the shorter height) to 200 (on the taller). My friend's boyfriend is 160 pounds, but I don't judge or insult him. I think that is the difference. So you don't like big girls? Fine. That's no reason to call them 'fat cows'.

There's a balance to everything. No girl should be so thin they're malnourished, and no girl should be so fat that she's going to get diabetes and heart disease.

And no one should insult someone, just because of the way the look.

I like 'em thick. 150 to 190 even 200 sometimes...

Well said.

None of those models are 'chubby'. C is perhaps able to be described as 'curvy', but those two words are not interchangeable, as someone implied above. As Trisk said, "...most women that big don't end up with the beautiful features, still-defined jawline, great skin, and ideal proportions of "C" or picture 3."

Here's how it ranks with me:

TOO Skinny, Disgusting actually:
http://maremare1225.files.wordpress..../04/skinny.jpg

A little skinny, but attractive:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...nnig-pic30.jpg

Pretty much "perfect" ranging from on the skinny side to on the chubby side:
http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/f...115-198745.jpg
http://www.greysgabble.com/wp-conten...rves-at-31.jpg
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFi...4/80921643.jpg

A little chubby, but potentially attractive:
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...LO_468x840.jpg

Too Chubby, unattractive:
http://fatgrrl.com/wp-content/FatGir...er_27Oct06.jpg
http://www.thereheis.com/nucleus3.22...5-fatchick.jpg

I think my ideal is somewhere between Jennifer Beals and Sara Ramirez. But I definitely agree it's not all about looks. Attraction is definitely a vital point, but it's only one point of many. There are many factors I would take and overlook weight, to an extent. There are also things I can't overlook. If I can see your ribs while you're NOT sucking in, that's horridly skinny and I can't deal. If your back has as many rolls as your front, I have an issue. If you look like this:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tNivN70scS...in-bikinis.jpg
I also have an issue. That about sums my views up.

I pretty much agree with Salem - the very thinnest and the very fattest put me off, probably out of a vague sense of "unhealthiness". From what remains, the larger curvier ladies get my vote.

But that surprises nobody. :D

I'm a healthy 5'1" 180lb woman!! I take care of myself very much so, and have confidence that out ways some smaller women. I'm not always happy with my body, there are parts not toned that I would like to have, but my SO loves every inch of me. He is 6'ft and about 160lbs soaking wet, I do at times worry because he is small that he would want a smaller woman , but he also helps me eliminate those worries by telling me every curve, bump, and dimple was put there for him to discover and love. We dated in HS for 3 yrs so he has seen the "skinny" me and has never complained about the "larger" me.( We split for 11 yrs and 2 yrs ago got back together after our divorces) I work out several times a wk, but since having my children my metabolism just isn't what it use to be. I would love to be a bit smaller, but even if I don't get there my man will still love me the same.

Just to help anyone out if they were wondering: "model #3" is worldwide supermodel Crystal Renn.

Nay for me. I like petite, well toned women.

I may possibly get yelled at by a bunch of guys for saying this but I have a theory on the 'status' thing in terms of men flocking to skinnier women. I think sometimes it really is a load of bs. I went to high school in NYC, one of the most judgmental cities in America, and I got very little attention from the males in my class (I am 5'5, 150 lbs). All of them would flirt with/date the size zeros in my class and sort of snub me...until the school bell rang. I can't count the number of times OUTSIDE of the classroom setting that these very same guys would be all over me...providing their friends weren't around. I had at least three guys from my class proposition me outside of school and actually asked me to 'come over and have sex'. I'm NOT kidding. One of them, when we were hanging out alone one night told me I was the sexiest girl in class. Two of them continued to pursue me after high school ended. But, God forbid I ever try to 'flirt' with them in class, then they put me down and talked about me behind my back.

Now, some people may say they tried it on outside of school because I'm a chubbier girl and therefore 'easy', but EVERY SINGLE ONE of these boys got turned down by me, repeatedly. I have more self-respect than to see a man who would be too ashamed to introduce me to his friends because I'm a size eight not a zero. But yes, I don't think it's all men, but there are definitely some that I think prefer curvier women but hide that in order to date more 'conventional' girls.

And Trisk - size eight (I'm assuming US?) is NOT fat! Not at all! Don't let those bastards worry you, because none of them is worth it.

The thing is, marshmellofluff, you're talking about high school guys. When I was in high school I wouldn't date fat girls. People would make fun of me if I did. (God forbid, right?)

After high school I got with a bigger girl and I, literally, got lectures from friends about how I shouldn't be with fat chicks because I'm not fat.

I grew out of these things. My preference is my preference and I don't give a shit about what other people think about it.

Granted, there are a lot of guys out there that will be douchebags until the day they die, but most of us get over the "everyone has to approve of my mate" bit.

I agree with you that non high school guys are a LOT more mature than high school guys, I was just using that as an example of how men's choices are often influenced by society/their friends, as you mentioned above.

Good for you for dating who you want to!

The healthy thing aside (because really you can be unhealthy in any shape), I find having sex when you are skinny is quite painful and hard. I'm 5 ft and have been 115lbs and 93lbs. When I was 115lbs sex was just better, more cushion (what they say is true). When I was 93lbs sex wasnt that pleasant, buncha bones hitting everywhere, it felt like I was a skeleton, and it wasnt so comfortable. Now at 100lbs, still have problems with certain positions because I still have bones poking out, but I feel much better than being 115lbs.

I certainly like my plus size galls. I don't know why, but a girl with a bit of meat on her really turns me on. Only thing is I'm a very skinny lad who is medically incapable of putting on any more that 70kg, go figure.

I've actually found a lot more men are attracted to bigger women than people realise. I've often wondered if it's an evolutionary hard wiring thing, in that a bigger lass is going to be able to better carry and birth a child. That's just a thought, I have absolutely nothing to back that up with.

At the end of the day, I just like what I like. But I'm not the kinda guy to knock back a girl purely on my physical preferences.

MrFriendly, you might be interested in learning more about the role of the waist-hip ratio in attractiveness: Waist-hip ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's a visual lesson:

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...parison466.png

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/m...hsinbikini.jpg

Here's an unairbrushed real woman that I would bang into next week..I would prefer a bigger rack but that's just me..[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]

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Great site for photos of real women:

Women Picture Gallery

There was a time when I could appreciate larger women, but no more.

Chubbiness is no good for me unless she is very short, and young.

That right there is a perfect pear shaped woman. I find it one of the most attractive figures when it comes to body shapes. Probably because I have that shape myself. The curves are all in the ass, thighs and hips, and the chest is usually smaller. Yup, that's me. Even when skinny, thats my shape: pear.

i think women are just wonderful, in all the skinny to pleasantly plump varieties. once you start getting into the obese and/or unhealthy range you start to lose me. i can see attractive features in most women.

I like vertical girls
 

I'm more of a face guy. Any 3 of those would be fine under the sheets though, if we're just talking physical romps n such.

But man, the face, that's what you get for the rest of the time, it better be good.

Gaaaaa.

Where the hell were all you guys when I was young? :orly:

I was never fat, but never "thin" either. I'm of Polish stock - a good solid body-type that nobody would consider "model-like." I was never quite able to lose those "last few pounds" that our skinny-centric society insisted I must, but I got pretty close. At my thinnest, I looked like this:

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5076/meandronnie.jpg

The guy I was dating at the time told me "I'd like you better if I could see your ribs."

WTF? And he wasn't the only boyfriend to make little comments on my weight, just the only one insensitive enough to say something that offensive and stupid out loud. Needless to say, I immediately turned around and let him watch my "fat" ass walk out of his life.

Today (more than 25 years later), I'm easily 30 lbs overweight and I don't give a shit. Haven't been on a scale in years. Oddly enough, there's now a queue of four or five men who'd love to get a piece of my fat(ter) ass. Sheesh.

Of course, Mother Nature in all her perversity isn't satisfied with that. Oh no. On top of it all, I'm currently menopausal and simply, irrevocably NOT interested in the least.


Well, ok. Mother Nature hasn't abandoned me entirely. Menopause has brought on regular involuntary nocturnal orgasms. Hell of a way to wake up, lemme tell ya. :thumbsup:

In my case, absolutely yes.

Now I am really looking forward to menopause, and here I was just looking forward to the hot flashes (I HATE BEING COLD), but to have involuntary OOO's.... it sounds like a just reward for us older ladies, Yea!!!

Thank your Marlon's Mom for giving me yet another reason to be thankful for the opportunity to age, and not be looking back at youth so longingly. Perspective, Wisdom AND Involuntary Orgasms, Oh, God truly is Good. :)

p.s. I think you picture is perfect but leaning to the thin side (beautiful lady). I lived the life of camera on you, I am tired of feeling like I have to be seen by someone else as thin to be attractive, it is so demoralizing to have such a difficult relationship with food. I am all grown up now and still fight my own image like a teenage girl, it's tiring and depressing. I will say, many at this site are helping me to accept the beauty that is their within me and not beat myself up for losing that model figure.

She isn't unattractive but she is probably obese based on BMI. I like curves , I don't expect a size 0, and I think it's sad that women get wrapped up in unattainable standards but I think we go way too far in justifying being overweight and obesity.

No kidding! Growing older is pretty awesome, I must say. I wouldn't go back and be a teen or a twenty-something for all the tea in China!

Now you know that there are men out there who aren't interested in the "heroin chic" look, so please don't beat yourself up because you don't fit that freakish body type. After all, the only creatures in nature that have bones sticking out all over the place are those that are terribly sick or dying. LIVE! And don't apologize! Be round(ish) and proud! :)

Umm, where are they now? It's nice to know it exists, but I don't think it's the norm for guys to like 'chubby' girls.

For most of my life I was quite thin... ranging in size from a 0 to a 4 (I am 5'1"). Now, I'm a 12... yes, overweight, but still smaller than the average American woman. When I was a size 4 I got looks, I got asked out... now, not so much. It definitely seems to me that the majority of men prefered to be able to see my ribs. :skeptical:

Eeeeeeeeeew, I definitely don't want to be able to see a woman ribs, I just don't find that appealing.

Besides, I don't think you have to measure your attractiveness by how many looks you get or how many guys ask you out. There are plenty of places and ways to find blokes who would totally dig your kind of figure.

I could certainly love a woman without regard for her weight, but sexual attraction, for me, is thoroughly wrecked by obesity, and significantly diminished by the milder term, chubbiness. Personality can redeem the woman if it smolders and sizzles, but only to an extent.

Sexual attraction isn't fair, especially where love is involved.

Edit: I should add that a woman's weight doesn't matter so much as how it is applied to her physique. A large woman can be stunningly beautiful if the fat is favorably distributed.

She looks great to me...flat stomach massive hips and thighs...love that shit.

My opinion of the matter is this. What you find attractive is what you find attractive and one should not have to apologize for it thick or thin.
I personally look at weight the same as other physical and non physical attributes. On one woman small breasts might look hot, and another the tatoo may be what appeals to me. If she has a little around the middle, she can still look attractive. Personality has a LOT to do with attractive to me. So a sweet larger girl will get my attention faster than the model hot complainer. That being said, to answer the OP question, IRL chubby doesnt matter. In pictures anything over hourglass figure is a bit of a turn off.