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CandleInTheDark 08-25-2009 02:07 PM

Perhaps it's just me, but the only difference I see between A and B is an illusion. Girl B is turned toward the camera, and the angle draws our eyes farther accross her body. Turn A the same direction and I don't think you'd notice a difference.

That said, C please!

snicka 08-25-2009 03:09 PM

I like a woman with some extra curves, just shows that she has a oral fixation and enjoys her physical pleasures. I would choose C over B and A but would do any of them (or all three).

streak_56 08-25-2009 07:44 PM

I will say I prefer plus size model girls!!!! OMG do I ever love them!!!!!

Iliftrocks 08-26-2009 06:53 AM

Depends on the woman. Not a chubby chaser, but I've sure ogled some mighty curvy women. Don't like skinny, but I've seen some lovely skinny women.

So I guess I'm saying "yes"

Crack 08-28-2009 01:33 PM

I just came here to say "good god yea"

Some men consider themselves "ass me" some are leg men, or boob men. I am a face man. If she has a pretty face, I will be drawn to that, the rest of the body can change and evolve, but the face stays the same.

phredgreen 09-02-2009 02:05 AM

heh. of all the posts to get me to jump back into the fray...

for those of you who remember me, the answer is fairly clear. for everyone else, an emphatic yes. I want curves, I want plush, I want comfort. it's all personal preference, but I think that sometimes chubby women get discouraged because of the douchebags out there that reject them for their weight, and then guys like me are left to dealt with the aftermath. I think more needs to be done to advocate body positivity, rather than unrealistic ideals.

Crack 09-02-2009 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by phredgreen (Post 2697763)
heh. of all the posts to get me to jump back into the fray...

for those of you who remember me, the answer is fairly clear. for everyone else, an emphatic yes. I want curves, I want plush, I want comfort. it's all personal preference, but I think that sometimes chubby women get discouraged because of the douchebags out there that reject them for their weight, and then guys like me are left to dealt with the aftermath. I think more needs to be done to advocate body positivity, rather than unrealistic ideals.

well said.

and welcome back!

Trisk 09-02-2009 05:07 AM

I think it's silly that everyone is figuring out their "type" based on some airbrushed photos of models where the biggest woman has ideal proportions and the best face of the bunch. If I were a basement dweller who observed society from the internet, I might think, after this thread, that most men prefer chubbier women. However, most women that big don't end up with the beautiful features, still-defined jawline, great skin, and ideal proportions of "C" or picture 3. Picture 2 is lumpier but still has a cute face. Woman "B" who is supposed to show a more "average" weight is kind of a set up, because the angle is about as unflattering as you can get (whereas C is at a flattering angle) and she seems to have no muscle tone (could be the airbrushing or way she's standing).

There are a million body types around and in between these long-limbed models, and in the real world, I'm sorry to say, I've never seen a man skip over my modelesque size 0 friends, my thick and muscley (or even average and soft) size 2-8 friends in his rush to talk to the size 14+ girl amongst us. Personally, I'm athletically built, curvaceous, and wide-boned. At 5'4'', I look best around 130 lbs. Still, at 155 lbs and size 8, nowhere near picture "C", random men took it upon themselves to comment on how I should "walk that weight off" on the street and I got a few "oh yes Trisk has a nice FACE" comments from women. I am grateful in some ways, because it was a wake up call, but I don't know how larger women manage, and I wish more people were as accepting of bigger women as this thread suggests.

The OP asked whether "society still says that slim is beautiful" and I'd have to say, at least in my city, that is very much the case. You still have to be thin, well-dressed and sometimes tall to get into a lot of NYC clubs and when I do go out, I'm often surprised at how many men crowd around the boniest of my friends. Sometimes I think it's a status thing - young guys want to date a girl who looks like a model. But who knows. I'm not a guy.

Marshmellofluff 05-13-2010 03:29 PM

I think that people are perhaps being too harsh on the men in this forum who are not attracted to thicker women. I say this, and I myself am chubby. The thing is, everyone has a type. My boyfriend is tall, dark, and handsome, with broad shoulders and a muscular build. Many people do not find this type of man attractive. I have a lot of friends who are into more 'artsy' guys that are very thin and sort of trendy, for want of a better word. I, personally, find skinny men completely unattractive, so I can understand why a man would find me so. I would never date a man who was shorter than 5'10, and my ideal weight for a man is 180 (on the shorter height) to 200 (on the taller). My friend's boyfriend is 160 pounds, but I don't judge or insult him. I think that is the difference. So you don't like big girls? Fine. That's no reason to call them 'fat cows'.

There's a balance to everything. No girl should be so thin they're malnourished, and no girl should be so fat that she's going to get diabetes and heart disease.

And no one should insult someone, just because of the way the look.

Thrombatic Pyle 05-16-2010 07:23 PM

I like 'em thick. 150 to 190 even 200 sometimes...

Eilonwy 05-17-2010 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trisk (Post 2697855)
I think it's silly that everyone is figuring out their "type" based on some airbrushed photos of models where the biggest woman has ideal proportions and the best face of the bunch. If I were a basement dweller who observed society from the internet, I might think, after this thread, that most men prefer chubbier women. However, most women that big don't end up with the beautiful features, still-defined jawline, great skin, and ideal proportions of "C" or picture 3. Picture 2 is lumpier but still has a cute face. Woman "B" who is supposed to show a more "average" weight is kind of a set up, because the angle is about as unflattering as you can get (whereas C is at a flattering angle) and she seems to have no muscle tone (could be the airbrushing or way she's standing).

There are a million body types around and in between these long-limbed models, and in the real world, I'm sorry to say, I've never seen a man skip over my modelesque size 0 friends, my thick and muscley (or even average and soft) size 2-8 friends in his rush to talk to the size 14+ girl amongst us. Personally, I'm athletically built, curvaceous, and wide-boned. At 5'4'', I look best around 130 lbs. Still, at 155 lbs and size 8, nowhere near picture "C", random men took it upon themselves to comment on how I should "walk that weight off" on the street and I got a few "oh yes Trisk has a nice FACE" comments from women. I am grateful in some ways, because it was a wake up call, but I don't know how larger women manage, and I wish more people were as accepting of bigger women as this thread suggests.

The OP asked whether "society still says that slim is beautiful" and I'd have to say, at least in my city, that is very much the case. You still have to be thin, well-dressed and sometimes tall to get into a lot of NYC clubs and when I do go out, I'm often surprised at how many men crowd around the boniest of my friends. Sometimes I think it's a status thing - young guys want to date a girl who looks like a model. But who knows. I'm not a guy.

Well said.

None of those models are 'chubby'. C is perhaps able to be described as 'curvy', but those two words are not interchangeable, as someone implied above. As Trisk said, "...most women that big don't end up with the beautiful features, still-defined jawline, great skin, and ideal proportions of "C" or picture 3."

Plan9 05-17-2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High School Jocks Everywhere
If you can't lift it, don't eat it.


Salem 05-17-2010 10:36 PM

Here's how it ranks with me:

TOO Skinny, Disgusting actually:
http://maremare1225.files.wordpress..../04/skinny.jpg

A little skinny, but attractive:
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...nnig-pic30.jpg

Pretty much "perfect" ranging from on the skinny side to on the chubby side:
http://imstars.aufeminin.com/stars/f...115-198745.jpg
http://www.greysgabble.com/wp-conten...rves-at-31.jpg
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFi...4/80921643.jpg

A little chubby, but potentially attractive:
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...LO_468x840.jpg

Too Chubby, unattractive:
http://fatgrrl.com/wp-content/FatGir...er_27Oct06.jpg
http://www.thereheis.com/nucleus3.22...5-fatchick.jpg

I think my ideal is somewhere between Jennifer Beals and Sara Ramirez. But I definitely agree it's not all about looks. Attraction is definitely a vital point, but it's only one point of many. There are many factors I would take and overlook weight, to an extent. There are also things I can't overlook. If I can see your ribs while you're NOT sucking in, that's horridly skinny and I can't deal. If your back has as many rolls as your front, I have an issue. If you look like this:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tNivN70scS...in-bikinis.jpg
I also have an issue. That about sums my views up.

Daniel_ 05-17-2010 11:00 PM

I pretty much agree with Salem - the very thinnest and the very fattest put me off, probably out of a vague sense of "unhealthiness". From what remains, the larger curvier ladies get my vote.

But that surprises nobody. :D

neveragain 05-18-2010 10:00 AM

I'm a healthy 5'1" 180lb woman!! I take care of myself very much so, and have confidence that out ways some smaller women. I'm not always happy with my body, there are parts not toned that I would like to have, but my SO loves every inch of me. He is 6'ft and about 160lbs soaking wet, I do at times worry because he is small that he would want a smaller woman , but he also helps me eliminate those worries by telling me every curve, bump, and dimple was put there for him to discover and love. We dated in HS for 3 yrs so he has seen the "skinny" me and has never complained about the "larger" me.( We split for 11 yrs and 2 yrs ago got back together after our divorces) I work out several times a wk, but since having my children my metabolism just isn't what it use to be. I would love to be a bit smaller, but even if I don't get there my man will still love me the same.

Jetée 05-18-2010 10:10 AM

Just to help anyone out if they were wondering: "model #3" is worldwide supermodel Crystal Renn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewels (Post 2513331)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Salem (Post 2789203)


nomcat 05-18-2010 10:16 AM

Nay for me. I like petite, well toned women.

Marshmellofluff 05-18-2010 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trisk (Post 2697855)
The OP asked whether "society still says that slim is beautiful" and I'd have to say, at least in my city, that is very much the case. You still have to be thin, well-dressed and sometimes tall to get into a lot of NYC clubs and when I do go out, I'm often surprised at how many men crowd around the boniest of my friends. Sometimes I think it's a status thing - young guys want to date a girl who looks like a model. But who knows. I'm not a guy.

I may possibly get yelled at by a bunch of guys for saying this but I have a theory on the 'status' thing in terms of men flocking to skinnier women. I think sometimes it really is a load of bs. I went to high school in NYC, one of the most judgmental cities in America, and I got very little attention from the males in my class (I am 5'5, 150 lbs). All of them would flirt with/date the size zeros in my class and sort of snub me...until the school bell rang. I can't count the number of times OUTSIDE of the classroom setting that these very same guys would be all over me...providing their friends weren't around. I had at least three guys from my class proposition me outside of school and actually asked me to 'come over and have sex'. I'm NOT kidding. One of them, when we were hanging out alone one night told me I was the sexiest girl in class. Two of them continued to pursue me after high school ended. But, God forbid I ever try to 'flirt' with them in class, then they put me down and talked about me behind my back.

Now, some people may say they tried it on outside of school because I'm a chubbier girl and therefore 'easy', but EVERY SINGLE ONE of these boys got turned down by me, repeatedly. I have more self-respect than to see a man who would be too ashamed to introduce me to his friends because I'm a size eight not a zero. But yes, I don't think it's all men, but there are definitely some that I think prefer curvier women but hide that in order to date more 'conventional' girls.

And Trisk - size eight (I'm assuming US?) is NOT fat! Not at all! Don't let those bastards worry you, because none of them is worth it.

Punk.of.Ages 05-18-2010 01:54 PM

The thing is, marshmellofluff, you're talking about high school guys. When I was in high school I wouldn't date fat girls. People would make fun of me if I did. (God forbid, right?)

After high school I got with a bigger girl and I, literally, got lectures from friends about how I shouldn't be with fat chicks because I'm not fat.

I grew out of these things. My preference is my preference and I don't give a shit about what other people think about it.

Granted, there are a lot of guys out there that will be douchebags until the day they die, but most of us get over the "everyone has to approve of my mate" bit.

Marshmellofluff 05-18-2010 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punk.of.Ages (Post 2789463)
The thing is, marshmellofluff, you're talking about high school guys. When I was in high school I wouldn't date fat girls. People would make fun of me if I did. (God forbid, right?)

After high school I got with a bigger girl and I, literally, got lectures from friends about how I shouldn't be with fat chicks because I'm not fat.

I grew out of these things. My preference is my preference and I don't give a shit about what other people think about it.

Granted, there are a lot of guys out there that will be douchebags until the day they die, but most of us get over the "everyone has to approve of my mate" bit.

I agree with you that non high school guys are a LOT more mature than high school guys, I was just using that as an example of how men's choices are often influenced by society/their friends, as you mentioned above.

Good for you for dating who you want to!

Im_not_bitter 05-20-2010 11:49 AM

The healthy thing aside (because really you can be unhealthy in any shape), I find having sex when you are skinny is quite painful and hard. I'm 5 ft and have been 115lbs and 93lbs. When I was 115lbs sex was just better, more cushion (what they say is true). When I was 93lbs sex wasnt that pleasant, buncha bones hitting everywhere, it felt like I was a skeleton, and it wasnt so comfortable. Now at 100lbs, still have problems with certain positions because I still have bones poking out, but I feel much better than being 115lbs.

MrFriendly 05-20-2010 06:50 PM

I certainly like my plus size galls. I don't know why, but a girl with a bit of meat on her really turns me on. Only thing is I'm a very skinny lad who is medically incapable of putting on any more that 70kg, go figure.

I've actually found a lot more men are attracted to bigger women than people realise. I've often wondered if it's an evolutionary hard wiring thing, in that a bigger lass is going to be able to better carry and birth a child. That's just a thought, I have absolutely nothing to back that up with.

At the end of the day, I just like what I like. But I'm not the kinda guy to knock back a girl purely on my physical preferences.

snowy 05-20-2010 06:57 PM

MrFriendly, you might be interested in learning more about the role of the waist-hip ratio in attractiveness: Waist-hip ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Baraka_Guru 05-20-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by snowy (Post 2790409)
MrFriendly, you might be interested in learning more about the role of the waist-hip ratio in attractiveness: Waist-hip ratio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here's a visual lesson:

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...parison466.png

Thrombatic Pyle 05-21-2010 05:38 AM

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/m...hsinbikini.jpg

Here's an unairbrushed real woman that I would bang into next week..I would prefer a bigger rack but that's just me..[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]

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---------- Post added at 05:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:31 AM ----------

Great site for photos of real women:

Women Picture Gallery

Honesty 05-21-2010 02:02 PM

There was a time when I could appreciate larger women, but no more.

Chubbiness is no good for me unless she is very short, and young.

settie 05-21-2010 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrombatic Pyle (Post 2790506)
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/m...hsinbikini.jpg

Here's an unairbrushed real woman that I would bang into next week..I would prefer a bigger rack but that's just me..[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]

That right there is a perfect pear shaped woman. I find it one of the most attractive figures when it comes to body shapes. Probably because I have that shape myself. The curves are all in the ass, thighs and hips, and the chest is usually smaller. Yup, that's me. Even when skinny, thats my shape: pear.

raging moderate 05-21-2010 07:59 PM

i think women are just wonderful, in all the skinny to pleasantly plump varieties. once you start getting into the obese and/or unhealthy range you start to lose me. i can see attractive features in most women.

looney1 05-22-2010 05:47 AM

I like vertical girls
 
I like girls with vertical proportions. Chubby girls are really hot. I like amazon types too. A girl can be too skinny for me, but to be unattractive for me you have to look too wide all over.

Shauk 05-22-2010 06:06 AM

I'm more of a face guy. Any 3 of those would be fine under the sheets though, if we're just talking physical romps n such.

But man, the face, that's what you get for the rest of the time, it better be good.

Marlon's Mom 05-22-2010 09:29 AM

Gaaaaa.

Where the hell were all you guys when I was young? :orly:

I was never fat, but never "thin" either. I'm of Polish stock - a good solid body-type that nobody would consider "model-like." I was never quite able to lose those "last few pounds" that our skinny-centric society insisted I must, but I got pretty close. At my thinnest, I looked like this:

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5076/meandronnie.jpg

The guy I was dating at the time told me "I'd like you better if I could see your ribs."

WTF? And he wasn't the only boyfriend to make little comments on my weight, just the only one insensitive enough to say something that offensive and stupid out loud. Needless to say, I immediately turned around and let him watch my "fat" ass walk out of his life.

Today (more than 25 years later), I'm easily 30 lbs overweight and I don't give a shit. Haven't been on a scale in years. Oddly enough, there's now a queue of four or five men who'd love to get a piece of my fat(ter) ass. Sheesh.

Of course, Mother Nature in all her perversity isn't satisfied with that. Oh no. On top of it all, I'm currently menopausal and simply, irrevocably NOT interested in the least.


Well, ok. Mother Nature hasn't abandoned me entirely. Menopause has brought on regular involuntary nocturnal orgasms. Hell of a way to wake up, lemme tell ya. :thumbsup:

agentalbert 05-24-2010 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PonyPotato (Post 2514086)
I'm not a fan of the "she looks sickly" comments, nor the "she looks like a fat cow" comments. It is interesting to me to read that a good portion of the men on the board prefer larger women. I do wonder, however, if these same men would seek out porn with fuller figured women over the typical skinny-big-boobs women you seen in porn most of the time.

In my case, absolutely yes.

Idyllic 05-24-2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon's Mom (Post 2790983)
Well, ok. Mother Nature hasn't abandoned me entirely. Menopause has brought on regular involuntary nocturnal orgasms. Hell of a way to wake up, lemme tell ya. :thumbsup:

Now I am really looking forward to menopause, and here I was just looking forward to the hot flashes (I HATE BEING COLD), but to have involuntary OOO's.... it sounds like a just reward for us older ladies, Yea!!!

Thank your Marlon's Mom for giving me yet another reason to be thankful for the opportunity to age, and not be looking back at youth so longingly. Perspective, Wisdom AND Involuntary Orgasms, Oh, God truly is Good. :)

p.s. I think you picture is perfect but leaning to the thin side (beautiful lady). I lived the life of camera on you, I am tired of feeling like I have to be seen by someone else as thin to be attractive, it is so demoralizing to have such a difficult relationship with food. I am all grown up now and still fight my own image like a teenage girl, it's tiring and depressing. I will say, many at this site are helping me to accept the beauty that is their within me and not beat myself up for losing that model figure.

kutulu 05-24-2010 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrombatic Pyle (Post 2790506)
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/m...hsinbikini.jpg

Here's an unairbrushed real woman that I would bang into next week..I would prefer a bigger rack but that's just me..[COLOR="DarkSlateGray"]

---------- Post added at 05:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:23 AM ----------

---------- Post added at 05:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:31 AM ----------

Great site for photos of real women:

Women Picture Gallery

She isn't unattractive but she is probably obese based on BMI. I like curves , I don't expect a size 0, and I think it's sad that women get wrapped up in unattainable standards but I think we go way too far in justifying being overweight and obesity.

Marlon's Mom 05-24-2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idyllic (Post 2791672)
Now I am really looking forward to menopause, and here I was just looking forward to the hot flashes (I HATE BEING COLD), but to have involuntary OOO's.... it sounds like a just reward for us older ladies, Yea!!!

Thank your Marlon's Mom for giving me yet another reason to be thankful for the opportunity to age, and not be looking back at youth so longingly. Perspective, Wisdom AND Involuntary Orgasms, Oh, God truly is Good. :)

No kidding! Growing older is pretty awesome, I must say. I wouldn't go back and be a teen or a twenty-something for all the tea in China!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Idyllic (Post 2791672)
I am tired of feeling like I have to be seen by someone else as thin to be attractive, it is so demoralizing to have such a difficult relationship with food. I am all grown up now and still fight my own image like a teenage girl, it's tiring and depressing. I will say, many at this site are helping me to accept the beauty that is their within me and not beat myself up for losing that model figure.

Now you know that there are men out there who aren't interested in the "heroin chic" look, so please don't beat yourself up because you don't fit that freakish body type. After all, the only creatures in nature that have bones sticking out all over the place are those that are terribly sick or dying. LIVE! And don't apologize! Be round(ish) and proud! :)

Eilonwy 05-24-2010 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlon's Mom (Post 2790983)
Gaaaaa.

Where the hell were all you guys when I was young? :orly:

Umm, where are they now? It's nice to know it exists, but I don't think it's the norm for guys to like 'chubby' girls.

For most of my life I was quite thin... ranging in size from a 0 to a 4 (I am 5'1"). Now, I'm a 12... yes, overweight, but still smaller than the average American woman. When I was a size 4 I got looks, I got asked out... now, not so much. It definitely seems to me that the majority of men prefered to be able to see my ribs. :skeptical:

MrFriendly 05-24-2010 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eilonwy (Post 2791779)
It definitely seems to me that the majority of men prefered to be able to see my ribs. :skeptical:

Eeeeeeeeeew, I definitely don't want to be able to see a woman ribs, I just don't find that appealing.

Besides, I don't think you have to measure your attractiveness by how many looks you get or how many guys ask you out. There are plenty of places and ways to find blokes who would totally dig your kind of figure.

Cernunnos 05-26-2010 01:27 AM

I could certainly love a woman without regard for her weight, but sexual attraction, for me, is thoroughly wrecked by obesity, and significantly diminished by the milder term, chubbiness. Personality can redeem the woman if it smolders and sizzles, but only to an extent.

Sexual attraction isn't fair, especially where love is involved.

Edit: I should add that a woman's weight doesn't matter so much as how it is applied to her physique. A large woman can be stunningly beautiful if the fat is favorably distributed.

Thrombatic Pyle 05-26-2010 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kutulu (Post 2791721)
She isn't unattractive but she is probably obese based on BMI. I like curves , I don't expect a size 0, and I think it's sad that women get wrapped up in unattainable standards but I think we go way too far in justifying being overweight and obesity.

She looks great to me...flat stomach massive hips and thighs...love that shit.

tenchi069 05-26-2010 04:53 PM

My opinion of the matter is this. What you find attractive is what you find attractive and one should not have to apologize for it thick or thin.
I personally look at weight the same as other physical and non physical attributes. On one woman small breasts might look hot, and another the tatoo may be what appeals to me. If she has a little around the middle, she can still look attractive. Personality has a LOT to do with attractive to me. So a sweet larger girl will get my attention faster than the model hot complainer. That being said, to answer the OP question, IRL chubby doesnt matter. In pictures anything over hourglass figure is a bit of a turn off.


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