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cyrnel · 11-03-2005, 10:20 PM

Sony's argument is that this isn't a danger because, in response to the exposure, they're working with AV companies to make sure anything hiding behind the rootkit besides their own code will be flagged.

I'm surprised Sony Music is this far out of touch. Their damage control so far has only made the problem worse. The press certainly hasn't been kind.

skier · 11-03-2005, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 1010011010

I'd guess that they've finally figured out that distributing music isn't going to be a money making business for very much longer, and they're casting about for any sort of revenue stream upon which they can try to lay claim.

I don't think they've realized that they're dealing with a hydra in a very elastic market and just keep thrashing around cutting off heads.

This is a fantastic metaphor.

I wish artists could use the internet as a means of directly promoting their own works in an effective manner. So they pay recording costs and server costs for selling their album/internet collection. I would LOVE to pay 5$ for a music album and also see the artists recieve more money than they would if I bought their 24$ CD released by mr.bigcorporation.

edit: as to the sony rootkit, it's being used to foil the anti-cheat program in WoW. Hides the macromakers etc. with the $sys$ thing.

HogansGoat · 11-07-2005, 10:58 PM

by the way on a sysinternals' blog ther is a post from a guy named Matti Nikki:

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/200...18588334788459

If you want a more concrete proof, try to rename your favourite ripping software as $sys$whatever.exe and then run it again. You'll notice that the DRM system can no longer detect it, and thus you'll get good copy of the track you try to rip instead of one filled with noise.

Thats just hilarious. I think everyone should simply not worry about removing the rootkit, as this is too difficult, and then just do at Matti says, and use the rootkit to make your favorite ripping tool immune to the DRM. On second thought, is their software breaking the DMCA? It provides a method to bypass copyright protection that they install? Hmm...

fools. no skilz. I say someone 1337 should write a nice worm...

Jinn · 11-10-2005, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Slashdot

California has filed a class-action lawsuit against Sony and a second one may be filed today in New York. The lawsuit was filed Nov. 1 in Superior Court for the County of Los Angeles by Vernon, CA. It asks the court to prevent Sony from selling additional CDs protected by the anti-piracy software, and seeks monetary damages for California consumers who purchased them. The suit alleges that Sony's software violates at least three California statutes, including the "Consumer Legal Remedies Act," which governs unfair and/or deceptive trade acts; and the "Consumer Protection against Computer Spyware Act," which prohibits -- among other things -- software that takes control over the user's computer or misrepresents the user's ability or right to uninstall the program. The suit also alleges that Sony's actions violate the California Unfair Competition law, which allows public prosecutors and private citizens to file lawsuits to protect businesses and consumers from unfair business practices. EFF has released a list of rootkit affected CD's and Slashdot user xtracto also has a list."

I'm glad SOMEONE is standing up for our damned rights! Hopefully Sony feels the full force of these lawsuits.. it sends a message that we won't stand for illegal takeovers of our own damn computers..

cyrnel · 11-10-2005, 09:46 AM

There's also a New York suit, and EFF is "collecting signatures" to see if there's enough interest for them to begin something of their own.

It's too early but I almost want to thank Sony.

Jinn · 11-11-2005, 12:22 PM

I FUCKING LOVE SONY!!!!!!

I've been waiting for a company to overstep their bounds and bring the ridiculous RIAA behavior to the forefront. Sony, thank you so very much...

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"Bowing to public outrage, Sony BMG has temporarily halted the use of its controversial anti-piracy software in all of its music CDs, the company said in a statement today. The move comes just a day after a top Bush administration official chided Sony and the entertainment industry for going too far: according to this story over at Washingtonpost.com, Stewart Baker, the Department of Homeland Security's policy czar warned would-be DRM makers: 'It's very important to remember that it's your intellectual property -- it's not your computer. And in the pursuit of protection of intellectual property, it's important not to defeat or undermine the security measures that people need to adopt in these days.' The Post has the full text and video of his commentary."

cyrnel · 11-12-2005, 01:13 PM

More Sony fun.

Here's some digging by Alex Halderman into Sony's other big DRM system: Sunncomm MediaMax. It ships on many of Sony's titles; far more than the now famous XCP.

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To summarize, MediaMax software:

* Is installed onto the computer without meaningful notification or consent, and remains installed even if the license agreement is declined;
* Includes either no uninstall mechanism or an uninstaller that fails to completely remove the program like it claims;
* Sends information to SunnComm about the user’s activities contrary to SunnComm and Sony statements and without any option to disable the transmissions.

Link to full blog with details: http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=925

11-03-2005, 10:20 PM	#41 (permalink)
cyrnel Adequate Location: In my angry-dome.	Sony's argument is that this isn't a danger because, in response to the exposure, they're working with AV companies to make sure anything hiding behind the rootkit besides their own code will be flagged. I'm surprised Sony Music is this far out of touch. Their damage control so far has only made the problem worse. The press certainly hasn't been kind. __________________ There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195

11-10-2005, 09:46 AM	#45 (permalink)
cyrnel Adequate Location: In my angry-dome.	There's also a New York suit, and EFF is "collecting signatures" to see if there's enough interest for them to begin something of their own. It's too early but I almost want to thank Sony. __________________ There are a vast number of people who are uninformed and heavily propagandized, but fundamentally decent. The propaganda that inundates them is effective when unchallenged, but much of it goes only skin deep. If they can be brought to raise questions and apply their decent instincts and basic intelligence, many people quickly escape the confines of the doctrinal system and are willing to do something to help others who are really suffering and oppressed." -Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media, p. 195

11-07-2005, 10:58 PM	#43 (permalink)
HogansGoat Upright	by the way on a sysinternals' blog ther is a post from a guy named Matti Nikki: http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/200...18588334788459 If you want a more concrete proof, try to rename your favourite ripping software as $sys$whatever.exe and then run it again. You'll notice that the DRM system can no longer detect it, and thus you'll get good copy of the track you try to rip instead of one filled with noise. Thats just hilarious. I think everyone should simply not worry about removing the rootkit, as this is too difficult, and then just do at Matti says, and use the rootkit to make your favorite ripping tool immune to the DRM. On second thought, is their software breaking the DMCA? It provides a method to bypass copyright protection that they install? Hmm... fools. no skilz. I say someone 1337 should write a nice worm...