minority voices rule - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

homerhop · 05-01-2003, 02:30 PM

I'm pissed off once again. I know most people here wont know much about the political situation over here in Ireland and the few who do only know "IRA".
Well for the past while there has been stop in the main republican movements activities.Arms dumps have been closed and inspected by international monitors on two occasions, who have clearly stated that they have been closed.
It went to the people to vote for a combined government with cross border meetings between the Irish and English governments and was voted in favour by a majority vote.
And the whole time the unionists have found something to halt the process, each time the republican party moved to meet these demands, another one was imposed upon them.
Now when you look at the loyalists and their paramilitary groups what do we see, no significant arms taken off the streets, an increase in attacks on republicans.The unionists objecting to everything and finding new ways to prevent the peace process from going ahead.An international report on the so called police force (99% protestant 100% loyalist) that it needed major changes, They the unionists objected to THEIR police force being changed, Constant information that the police and military had been handing over information to unionist terror groups, and these people getting promoted.
Tribunals into the murder of civilians been white washed and key witnesses refusing to travel to the courts here because it was to dangerous, despite the fact that it was ok for the Queen of England to go around the same streets.
These people do not want peace they do not want to see both communities represented in the running of the government, they want it all.And once again today the majoritys voice was cast to one side, to keep the minority happy.There is to be no elections for the assembly.

Lebell · 05-01-2003, 10:11 PM

Homer,

It's a terrible situation.

I don't know about other Americans, but I follow this quite closely. I too was disgusted that a small group of Ultra right protestants halted peace in favor of more bloodshed and killing, especially when it is SO VERY CLOSE!

Northern Ireland has suffered so long, it is hard NOT to get angry at these people for, what is to me, an unconcienable choice. And to do it along so called 'religious' lines is obscene IMO.

Liquor Dealer · 05-02-2003, 01:25 PM

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. That said I agree with Lebell -(seems like I usually do). It is a shame that the majority inmany instnces suffers at the hand of a vocal minority. This is not just a problem in Ireland and Northern Ireland - it is a problem everywhere where people are concerned about "rights". I know there is no such thing as a democracy anywhere on earth and I know that if there were the rule of the majority will never be accepted by the minority. In a nation that has been so torn by strife and violence it would almost seem logical to take any step available to put an end to it - especially when the majority seems to favor this action.

05-01-2003, 02:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
homerhop Insane Location: ÉIRE	minority voices rule I'm pissed off once again. I know most people here wont know much about the political situation over here in Ireland and the few who do only know "IRA". Well for the past while there has been stop in the main republican movements activities.Arms dumps have been closed and inspected by international monitors on two occasions, who have clearly stated that they have been closed. It went to the people to vote for a combined government with cross border meetings between the Irish and English governments and was voted in favour by a majority vote. And the whole time the unionists have found something to halt the process, each time the republican party moved to meet these demands, another one was imposed upon them. Now when you look at the loyalists and their paramilitary groups what do we see, no significant arms taken off the streets, an increase in attacks on republicans.The unionists objecting to everything and finding new ways to prevent the peace process from going ahead.An international report on the so called police force (99% protestant 100% loyalist) that it needed major changes, They the unionists objected to THEIR police force being changed, Constant information that the police and military had been handing over information to unionist terror groups, and these people getting promoted. Tribunals into the murder of civilians been white washed and key witnesses refusing to travel to the courts here because it was to dangerous, despite the fact that it was ok for the Queen of England to go around the same streets. These people do not want peace they do not want to see both communities represented in the running of the government, they want it all.And once again today the majoritys voice was cast to one side, to keep the minority happy.There is to be no elections for the assembly. __________________ its evolution baby

05-01-2003, 10:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Homer, It's a terrible situation. I don't know about other Americans, but I follow this quite closely. I too was disgusted that a small group of Ultra right protestants halted peace in favor of more bloodshed and killing, especially when it is SO VERY CLOSE! Northern Ireland has suffered so long, it is hard NOT to get angry at these people for, what is to me, an unconcienable choice. And to do it along so called 'religious' lines is obscene IMO. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

05-02-2003, 01:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
Liquor Dealer Super Agitator Location: Just SW of Nowhere!!! In the good old US of A	The squeaky wheel gets the grease. That said I agree with Lebell -(seems like I usually do). It is a shame that the majority inmany instnces suffers at the hand of a vocal minority. This is not just a problem in Ireland and Northern Ireland - it is a problem everywhere where people are concerned about "rights". I know there is no such thing as a democracy anywhere on earth and I know that if there were the rule of the majority will never be accepted by the minority. In a nation that has been so torn by strife and violence it would almost seem logical to take any step available to put an end to it - especially when the majority seems to favor this action. __________________ Life isn't always a bowl of cherries, sometimes it's more like a jar of Jalapenos --- what you say or do today might burn your ass tomorrow!!!