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KnifeMissile · 11-27-2003, 01:07 PM

This article details how the RIAA and MPAA seek permanent immunity from antitrust lawsuits in a new bill called the Enhancing Federal Obscenity Reporting and Copyright Enforcement (EnFORCE) Act of 2003, sponsored by senator Orrin Hatch.

How is this possible? Doesn't this defeat the whole purpose of antitrust laws?

lordjeebus · 11-28-2003, 01:50 AM

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MPAA, RIAA seek permanent antitrust exemption
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Posted: 26/11/2003 at 01:09 GMT

Just weeks after an antitrust suit was filed against the RIAA by webcasters, the music labels' lobby group, is, along with Hollywood, seeking a permanent exemption from similar litigation. The proposal seeks to extend the exemption to anything covering mechanical copyright: a sweeping extension of the copyright cartel's immunity.

It's buried away in a piece of legislation co-sponsored by Senator Orrin Hatch called the EnFORCE Act, or the Enhancing Federal Obscenity Reporting and Copyright Enforcement Act of 2003. With 12-year old girls being threatened with $150,000 fines, and the computer industry embracing social engineering technologies such as locked music, you would think the last thing that the nation's cultural heritage needs is stricter enforcement by the copyright cartel.

Hatch said the big studios and major record labels need the exemption because of "market realities...The bill authorizes appropriations to ensure that all Department of Justice units that investigate intellectual property crimes have the support of at least one agent specifically trained in the investigation of such crimes," he said last week.

Hatch was a former critic of the RIAA, and advocate of compulsory licensing, who was seduced by the lobbyists, as Joe Menn describes in his book All The Rave [website - our review]. "Online systems provide a cheaper and easier method of self-publishing," Hatch said. He compared the musicians' predicament on major labels to "it's kind of like paying off your mortgage, but the bank still owns the house."

Hatch had discovered this because he had become a songwriter and performer of inspirational Christian music. At a gala awards dinner in March 2001 hosted by the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, Hatch was awarded a "Hero Award" and the diners heard Nashville star Natalie Grant perform one of his songs, "I Am Not Alone".

The flattery certainly proved inspirational to Hatch, whose own view of "market realities" has changed substantially since then.

"Any bill that further increases the RIAA's power over consumers is extremely disconcerting to us," president of the Webcaster Alliance, Ann Gabriel told us today.

With the Democrat Party so heavily reliant on campaign contributions from the pigopolists, the Bill requires a Republican revolt to avoid becoming law. Perhaps citizens should start reminding their Senators of the United States' cultural heritage as eloquently as Mr Gene Mosher did here did here. ®

The whole file-sharing thing aside, I think that exempting such organizations from antitrust laws sets a horrendous precedent.

People pirate Microsoft software -- will they get immunity next?

nanofever · 11-28-2003, 11:52 AM

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Mael · 11-28-2003, 12:09 PM

i think it's a great idea. i mean, if the govt. isn't going to look out for the big corporations/interest groups, who is?

sailor · 11-28-2003, 01:13 PM

The thing that bugs me is this assumtion that corporations are guaranteed a profit, and if they dont get it, they can legislate to get one. Nowhere are corporations guaranteed a profit--if what they are doing doesnt work, thats just tough. Deal with it.

MSD · 11-28-2003, 07:18 PM

Nobody should have immunity from any law or lawsuit. Liability is a necessary component of Democracy.

HarmlessRabbit · 11-30-2003, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by sailor420
The thing that bugs me is this assumtion that corporations are guaranteed a profit, and if they dont get it, they can legislate to get one. Nowhere are corporations guaranteed a profit--if what they are doing doesnt work, thats just tough. Deal with it.

This is exactly what's wrong with the new Medicare bill. It guarantees the health insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies a profit.

It's sad that post-Enron the republicans really haven't stepped up to the plate on corporate responsiblity. For the party that espouse the "free-market", I see precious little of the free market being allowed to work.

Dwarf020 · 12-07-2003, 09:56 AM

These org's are aware that they are in a fight for the lives basicly. so, they're willing to fight tooth and nail for every advantage they can get their hands on. They'll fight, cheat, steal and try to block anything that could weaken their position. if i were them, i'd do the same thing.

Sparhawk · 12-07-2003, 06:10 PM

Who are the 'pigopolists', and why is the Democratic Party so reliant on them?

11-27-2003, 01:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
KnifeMissile Location: Waterloo, Ontario	RIAA and MPAA seek antitrust exemption! This article details how the RIAA and MPAA seek permanent immunity from antitrust lawsuits in a new bill called the Enhancing Federal Obscenity Reporting and Copyright Enforcement (EnFORCE) Act of 2003, sponsored by senator Orrin Hatch. How is this possible? Doesn't this defeat the whole purpose of antitrust laws?

11-28-2003, 11:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
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11-28-2003, 01:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
sailor beauty in the breakdown Location: Chapel Hill, NC	The thing that bugs me is this assumtion that corporations are guaranteed a profit, and if they dont get it, they can legislate to get one. Nowhere are corporations guaranteed a profit--if what they are doing doesnt work, thats just tough. Deal with it. __________________ "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." --Plato

12-07-2003, 06:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sparhawk Dubya Location: VA	Who are the 'pigopolists', and why is the Democratic Party so reliant on them? __________________ "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard. It's - and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work. We're making progress. It is hard work."

11-28-2003, 12:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mael Banned Location: The Hell I Created.	i think it's a great idea. i mean, if the govt. isn't going to look out for the big corporations/interest groups, who is?

11-28-2003, 07:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
MSD The sky calls to us ... Super Moderator Location: CT	Nobody should have immunity from any law or lawsuit. Liability is a necessary component of Democracy.

12-07-2003, 09:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
Dwarf020 Tilted	These org's are aware that they are in a fight for the lives basicly. so, they're willing to fight tooth and nail for every advantage they can get their hands on. They'll fight, cheat, steal and try to block anything that could weaken their position. if i were them, i'd do the same thing.