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Old 04-23-2003, 01:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tears on TV: Dixie Chicks Explain Bush Bashing

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I hate when liberal Hollywood celebs open their mouths and say something that is not popular and then bitch that they have free speech. After that doesn't work they try to explain their dumb thoughts which never helps the situation out. When you work in an industry where your income depends on how many people like you it may just be best if you keep your mouth shut. I don't want to know what entertainers think. Just fucking entertain me and keep politics out of it. There are actors that I liked, but after I realized how dumb they were I stopped supporting them. Many people are the same way. That's my freedom of choice in action.

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TEARS ON TV: DIXIE CHICKS EXPLAIN BUSH BASHING

In a candid and emotional exclusive interview, ABC's Diane Sawyer talks with the Dixie Chicks -- Natalie Maines, Emily Robison and Martie Maguire -- who finally speak out about controversial comments regarding President Bush, made last month overseas during a London concert.

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The on-stage remarks, which many say were unpatriotic, have resulted in a flood of criticism and a backlash that has included a boycott of their music.

The interview will air on PRIMETIME THURSDAY (10:00-11:00 p.m., ET) on ABC -- but the DRUDGE REPORT can now reveal some highlights:

NATALIE MAINES ON WHETHER SHE IS TRULY SORRY FOR HER ON-STAGE COMMENT ABOUT PRESIDENT BUSH:

MAINES: I think it came down to, it was ... that it was in a foreign country and it was that it was an off-the-cuff statement…And I think the way I said it was disrespectful. The wording I used, the way I said it, that was disrespectful…

DIANE SAWYER: …I hear something not quite ... what? Whole-hearted ...

MAINES: …Really?...

SAWYER: ... when you talk about apologizing for what you said about the President.

MAINES: ….It's not because it's not genuine. It's because I'm on guard now…I feel regret for, you know, the choice of words. Or the non-choice…Am I sorry that I asked questions and that I don't just follow? No.

ON PERSONAL THREATS:

MAGUIRE: …I also believe that yes, some of our fans were upset by it, but… does the punishment fit the crime? How far are you going to go? I think it's rational and totally acceptable for people to write a letter... and say "You know, I was really offended by what you said about the President."… we know some of our fans were shocked and ... and upset, and we are compassionate to that. I totally understand it. My problem is, when does it cross the line? When is trashing Emily's property okay? When is writing a threatening letter okay?...

MAINES ON THE FIRST SIGNS OF THE BACKLASH:

SAWYER: When was the first sign you had that there was sort of a seismic tremor from this?

MAINES: We were going into this hotel…and he [the Dixie Chicks' manager] got a call … he's pacing back and forth. "Oh, no!" You know, we're automatically going "What? What happened?" And then he says, you know, he gets off the phone and I was like, "What? What happened?" "Well, the AP picked up what was said the other night... But don't worry, it's going to blow over in three days." And I looked at him and I go, "No, it's not." He goes "Yes, it is, yes. Don't worry about it." You know, giving the old manager spiel. And I said, "Oh, I don't think so."

MARTIE MAGUIRE ON THE FALL-OUT:

MAGUIRE: …We are pretty tough and we have each other and we stand by each other through thick and thin and we know we're going to make mistakes…But this was colossal. This felt so colossal.

ON THEIR SUPPORT FOR US TROOPS:

NATALIE MAINES: …we support the troops. We support the troops l00 percent. We have said that from day one. People have quoted we don’t support the troops, which is the opposite of anything we have ever said. There is not a correlation between not wanting a war and not supporting the troops who are doing their job…

EMILY ROBISON: Martie and I have family in the military. But it’s nothing more than that we want to do than have our troops be safe, successful…you know we’re very patriotic…

DIANE SAWYER: ...But there are those who say to support them is to understand how much they believe in what they're doing. And it does matter to them that you believe in what they're putting their lives on the line for.

MAINES: …as passionate as they are about their cause, I love that about them, but accept that I am passionate about mine as well…

ON THE LONDON CONCERT:

SAWYER: Why did you say it?

MAINES: Out of frustration. At that moment, on the eve of war, I had a lot of questions that I felt were unanswered….

MAINES: You know we didn't walk off that stage going, oh my God, oh my God, I can't believe I said that.

ON THE FANS' REACTION:

ROBISON: …I think our fans, and I think people who know us, and event the people who don't know us, know that we come from a real compassionate place…mistakes are made…

MAGUIRE: …those are true fans. So I have to believe that they're with us…in spirit and support, no matter what we do. We are bound to make mistakes…we're human beings… Don't put celebrities up on this pedestal. We are human beings.

ON PUBLIC PERCEPTION/IMPACT ON RECORD SALES:

ROBISON: We're ... I think we're dealing with bigger issues than record sales and lost things like that…I'm concerned about my safety. I'm concerned about my safety for my family, for them ...

SAWYER: …You really don't care about the sales ?...

ROBISON: … It's not that we don't care. We just put in perspective as to what is really important…You know, when you're getting death threats... you know, at our concerts this year, we have to have metal detectors, and to me that's just crazy…But we have to take those precautions because this thing has gotten so out of control.

ON WHETHER THEY SEEK FORGIVENESS:

MAINES: Accept us. Accept an apology that was made. Accept that we ... what we're saying right now is heartfelt, full of compassion, and honesty, but to forgive us ... don't forgive us for who we are.

ON PRESIDENT BUSH:

SAWYER: Are you ashamed that the President is from your state?

MAINES: No.. I'm not truly embarrassed that you know President Bush is from my state, that's not really what I care about. It was the wrong wording with genuine emotion and questions and concern behind it…

MAGUIRE: I felt like there was a lack of compassion every time I saw Bush talking about this. I honestly felt a lack of compassion. And I realized ...

SAWYER: For whom? For ... ?

MAGUIRE: …for me…for people that are questioning this, for the people that are about to die for this on both sides…

ON THE WAR:

MAINES: …I just personally felt like why tomorrow? It's not that I don't ever want you to go over there. It's not that I don't ever want you to clean things up and fix things. It's just why can't we find the chemical weapons first…why not tomorrow?

ROBISON: There were a lot of questions that were unanswered. I don't think that's a wrong place to be; I don't think that you have to go I totally agree or I'm totally against it. It was one of those things we wanted more information

ON PATRIOTISM:

MAGUIRE: …at the Super Bowl ... Marilyn and I were talking about the fact that we could barely get through it... it was just so emotional and wonderful. And I won't let anybody take that away from me. No matter what you said, I will not let somebody tell me I'm unpatriotic.

MAINES ON THE APOLOGY SHE ISSUED:

MAINES: …The people who are on our side think I was pressured. They would like to believe that I was made to apologize… They liked me until I apologized. (Laughs) And then the people who didn't like me thought that it was written by someone else and couldn't give me credit for my own apology, and neither of those are true…

MAINES ON HER OUTSPOKEN NATURE:

MAINES: …I ask questions. That's smart. That's intelligent. To find out facts not to just, 'Okay, we're going over here now.' I say, 'Why are we going over there?' And I don't mean to Iraq, I mean across the room. Since I was tiny, you've had to tell me why I have to do something…

ON THE IMPACT OF THIS ON THE PERCEPTION OF COUNTRY MUSIC:

MAGUIRE: …I just remember listening to country music as a young girl and knowing that I wanted to play the fiddle and that's all I ever wanted to do, knowing that I'd get into country music and trying to convert people over to country music and hearing them always say oh, but it's ... no, that's redneck music, no, those people are so backwards and conservative and closed minded and this and that. And I'm always saying to these people, no, just give it a chance, give it a chance…

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Old 04-23-2003, 02:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 04-23-2003, 03:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well... you know... it's like... At least it's heart fealt, full of ... you know... emotion... and like... at least they... you know... ask questions... that's like... you know... intelligent.

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Old 04-23-2003, 04:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 04-23-2003, 05:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yup,

Foot in mouth disease is a terrible thing. It's even worse when you can't stand behind your comments.

At this point, I have more respect for Martin Sheen and Susan Sarandon (which is not much) than I do for the Dixie Chix
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Old 04-23-2003, 06:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Jesus, just stand by what you said. No regrets.

No "heartfelt this" or "wrong wording" that, just make a statement using the right wording and stick to it.

You don't see Michael Moore going around and apologising for everything he says.
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Old 04-23-2003, 11:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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well, they have to say they're sorry or they won't make any more money and will be out on the street. Michael Moore has fans who like it when he says these things. The Dixie Chicks have fans who...well, I think the last line said it well:

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…I just remember listening to country music as a young girl and knowing that I wanted to play the fiddle and that's all I ever wanted to do, knowing that I'd get into country music and trying to convert people over to country music and hearing them always say oh, but it's ... no, that's redneck music, no, those people are so backwards and conservative and closed minded and this and that. And I'm always saying to these people, no, just give it a chance, give it a chance…
Sorry, but the nature of backwards, closed-minded, conservative rednecks is that they don't change. They'll always be closed-minded and if you're not also, you shouldn't be in country music.
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Old 04-24-2003, 07:18 AM   #8 (permalink)
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They are so inconsequential. I'm amazed that anyone really cares what she said. She fucked up, oh well, she's feeling the pain of her mistake. She needs to deal with the fact that she'll probably be spending the rest of her life as a waitress at Bob's Pig Hut.
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Old 04-24-2003, 07:54 AM   #9 (permalink)
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this bores me so much. who cares what she said? do you really care what she said?
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Old 04-24-2003, 09:40 AM   #10 (permalink)
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"The Dixie Chicks' nude protest"
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Old 04-24-2003, 09:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Typical example of what happens when you don't think before you speak.Also country radio advocating boycotting their music,concerts and cd sales will bring crocodile tears to anyone when they see their careers going down the tube.If you want to be a politician,run for office.If you want to be a musician,shut up and play music.
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Old 04-24-2003, 09:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 04-24-2003, 11:54 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Typical example of what happens when you don't think before you speak.Also country radio advocating boycotting their music,concerts and cd sales will bring crocodile tears to anyone when they see their careers going down the tube.If you want to be a politician,run for office.If you want to be a musician,shut up and play music.
This is the whole story - she couldn't have cared less until it hit her in the bank account.
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Old 04-24-2003, 11:58 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I love how they insinuate we don't have the right to not buy their shit, myself. You want us to shut up and fork the cash over? Go to hell fatties. Also, the pregnant chick looks weird.
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Old 04-24-2003, 12:28 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I liked this picture better...
oops, they won't let me directly link, so see the pic here:
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But you guys are completely right. They didn't care wht they said until it hit them in the bank account. It amazes me that they didn't take into consideration that most country music fans support war for freedom and soforth. I thought that was universally known.
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:24 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Actually, last I heard, they had sold out almost their entire tour with the last tickets going fast. Thing is, most of their fans aren't the typical redneck country fans. Those people are protesting because they hear them on the radio. I doubt many of them are real fans. So I wouldn't say their careers are fading.
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Actually, last I heard, they had sold out almost their entire tour with the last tickets going fast. Thing is, most of their fans aren't the typical redneck country fans. Those people are protesting because they hear them on the radio. I doubt many of them are real fans. So I wouldn't say their careers are fading.
Their concerts were all but sold out prior to the hoof and mouth outbreak. Check the music charts if you want to see where their future is headed. "Real fans" are those who spend money to buy their stuff - they ain'y buyin' it anymore.
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Old 04-24-2003, 01:59 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Old 04-24-2003, 05:57 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Well they gotta sell something now.Yeesch,hick chicks in the buff.
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Old 04-24-2003, 06:01 PM   #20 (permalink)
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It's all about the bottom line.

If their comments hadn't destroyed their record sales, then they wouldn't be appologizing for anything.

These overpaid brats can rot in hell for disgracing my country in a time of war.
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Old 04-24-2003, 06:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The good looking one (the blonde that isn't fat or ugly) can pose nude in playboy, I'll buy that shit up.
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Old 04-24-2003, 08:29 PM   #22 (permalink)
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These "chix" are far too dumb. Can't even stand by their own statements. Moronz.
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Old 04-25-2003, 12:14 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I'd have to agree that I'm more irritated with their spinelessness than I am with the content.

These gals have already made their millions of dollars and they're pandering to the people because they buy their albums and are unhappy????

Give me a break, If you're gonna make the comment then stand up and say, "yeah, you know what...?!? I did fucking say that!"

Instead of mish-mash mouthing of imaginary sentiment.

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Old 04-25-2003, 03:13 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Heh. I think there should be more nude protestors, personally.

Unfortunately, if you're famous you think you have the right to shoot your mouth off, even when you have no clue what you're talking about. This is the way it always has been, and always will be as long as people listen to actors and musicians instead of those in positions of politics and education-- ie, the people that -do- know what the hell they're talking about.
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Old 04-25-2003, 09:00 AM   #25 (permalink)
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They should have stuck by what they originally said, now with their apology people that already hated them still hate them, and supporters think its a cop out. All this issue shows is just how psycho a lot of country music fans are, death threats and cd stompin' ? I grow weary. I think all but like 7 of their upcoming shows are sold out, and like 90% of the tickets are sold for those 7, I don't think they are feeling the money loss too much. Their cd only dropped from #1 to 3 in the country music charts... #1 now is some guy singing a sad song about daddy going off to war etc, etc..which would probably be #1 anyway during this war time with or without Natalie's comments.
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Old 04-26-2003, 09:16 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Re: Tears on TV: Dixie Chicks Explain Bush Bashing

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When you work in an industry where your income depends on how many people like you it may just be best if you keep your mouth shut. I don't want to know what entertainers think. Just fucking entertain me and keep politics out of it. There are actors that I liked, but after I realized how dumb they were I stopped supporting them. Many people are the same way. That's my freedom of choice in action.

i'd take the opposite stance and say i respect them more because they're willing to give up all that popularity and success because of their beliefs.
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Heh. I think there should be more nude protestors, personally.


haha, agreed.

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Unfortunately, if you're famous you think you have the right to shoot your mouth off, even when you have no clue what you're talking about. This is the way it always has been, and always will be as long as people listen to actors and musicians instead of those in positions of politics and education-- ie, the people that -do- know what the hell they're talking about.
heh, non-famous people do the same thing, just like many famous people do keep their mouths shut - just those are the ones you don't hear about. ever see a cover of entertainment weekly that says "the musicians that keep their mouths shut"?
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i'd take the opposite stance and say i respect them more because they're willing to give up all that popularity and success because of their beliefs.
They didn't. They wanted to cater to what they percieved as the prevalent opinion among their fans at the time, and upon realising that it was in fact not, they start backpeddling the shit out of their comments. Our evidence of this is in their tearful "please buy our stuff" interview on tv. Which has "bullshit" written all over it.
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They didn't. They wanted to cater to what they percieved as the prevalent opinion among their fans at the time, and upon realising that it was in fact not, they start backpeddling the shit out of their comments. Our evidence of this is in their tearful "please buy our stuff" interview on tv. Which has "bullshit" written all over it.
Exactly!

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Old 04-26-2003, 11:44 PM   #31 (permalink)
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One must also not forget the recording companies. What kind of pressure did the execs apply? I mean the media is pretty much gung-ho about Bush and his wars. Murdoch must be delighted.
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Old 04-27-2003, 04:17 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I hate country music PERIOD. It's ALL shit.

Would not have bought their stuff before, would not buy their stuff now.

But from a purely political point of view, they are free to speak their minds, and i admire that, but their fans are free not to buy or buy their music.

It kind of reminds me of john lennon's infamous "we are now more popular than christ" statement which caused a lot of beatle records to go up in smoke and a lot of protest by rednecks.

In the end, as far as the beatles and their contribution to pop music it proved to be only a minor foot note.

The dixie chicks would be smart to switch to a more mainstream music and get away from the country rednecks.

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