LIVE discussion thread for the VP debate.
 

I'm really looking forward to see how Palin handles the stage alone. Here's a thread to discuss what's going on.

Enjoy

i think ill be tuning in as well.

Dont know if ill be chiming in while watching it though, we'll see.

31 min. to go.

Kind of jumping the gun, eh?

But yea, I'll be watching and commenting, just like last time. I'm making -popcorn- for this spectacle, baby!

Staying up late here in Iceland (again)--live coverage begins at 1am, we'll be up till 2:30am. Last week was better, since we could sleep in really late on Saturday morning. Ktsp has to get up and go to work at 8am. :( The great part about debate coverage here is that it's the straight live feed--no commercials, no analysis, no fancy-shmancy. Just the debate itself. I'll check in here after it's all done.

Well...we get live feed too. Just multiple camera angles =). And we get an 'audience response indicator' on the bottom if we watch via CNN. Everyone in the audience has a 'positive reaction' button and a 'negative reaction' button. And they report whether they're Demo, Repub, or Independent. So as the debate goes on, you can track the bottom of the screen and see the average of each of the three categories fluctuate in direct response to the candidates words. It's fascinating (and the foundation of my belief that Obama won the last debate: the lines clearly showed an advantage for him in all three groups (@_@).

It makes me feel like a big man to start the thread. I'll sleep like a baby tonight.

No, it's just so everyone is aware that's its here.

I REALLY can't wait for Palin to crash and burn. I just hope the moderator doesn't give her softballs or forgives her for changing the subject or not answering the question.

I'm curious about Biden.

I am going to try and watch from work but I doubt I will be able to see it...

What I'm not looking forward to, will, is Republicans defending her shitty performance.

Yeah, no multiple angles here, unfortunately... and I would LOVE to see this "audience response" thingy, as it sounds like quite an interesting social experiment. But I'll settle for the unadulterated live feed... counting down in 9 minutes. :D

Update! They're doing a different audience response this time. It will be uncommitted Ohio voters, ones by their own admission are currently undecided. They are split only among men and women.

Update: http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/0...mp/#more-11389 is live CNN analyst updates during the debates.

Such a good summation: The election can’t be won tonight by Palin, but it certainly can be lost if she lays a goose egg.

2 minutes until Palin's first lie/non-answer!
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hahahahahahahaha

FIRST LINE OF THE NIGHT

"Can I call ya' Joe?"

He should have said no...

As an initial note: Women seem disposed FOR biden and men AGAINST. Just during his introductions these were evident. As he continued speaking, both sides rose.
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And it appears that Biden achieved a 100% approval rating with women during his last couple sentences.

Both men and women seem to approve of Palin's message equally. Numbers are more moderate than Biden's...not quite as high, not quite as low, but still on the approval side.

That wink made me feel nauseous. *shudder*.

Palin is handling herself well. She is very offensive, as was expected...but she's doing it in a very gentle way.

I like that they are looking at each other.

And then she winked... jesus.

Yea, I LOVE that they're talking to each other. I was offended for Obama that McCain didn't look at him throughout the debate.

I'm also surprised that Biden is being so forthright in his attacks on McCain. He's being careful to restrict them to McCain though...he hasn't made an attack on Palin yet.

She pegged it on the mortgage crisis...

I have the sound turned off and am watching the little CNN Audience response thingee ebb and flow like a brainwave. It's actually quite soothing.

Jesus. How many times is she going to say 'darn right'.

I keep waiting for her to dance a jig after she says "darn right"

I'm sorry to pull a Will but I can't get over how fucking ridiculous she is.

Everything she says is ruined by her "darns" and "hockey moms" and "jeeze".

I wonder what it would sound like if you took each audience line and attached it to an electronic pitch?

Holy crap.

WOW.

Ok, so at first, Palin comes out with this INCREDIBLE attack on Barack's tax policy that had me REELING. I was like 'whoa'.

Then Biden comes out and says YOU'RE 100% WRONG.

And he then goes AND YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.

And she goes AND I'M NOT GONNA.

hahaha

Joe Biden starts speaking and the bars spike.

Nah, the bars are spiking for both of them. I'm not even paying attn to them anymore. Those past couple minutes were just CARNAGE.

Nvm...you're right. The polls aren't quite so high for Palin anymore.

Men seem especially vulnerable to the 'government is the problem' that she's talking about. They spiked up HIGH there.

Rofl. "He's got a DEtailed plan, and I'll give you some DEtails now".

Whoaaaaaa. "The ULTIMATE Bridge to Nowhere'.

Biden is not going about this at ALL as I expected, and I'm loving every. second.

Did she just say something anti-government in reference to the republican party. How surprisingly conservative. First thing I've heard thats actually conservative in 8 years it seems.

BANG!

(Ultimate bridge to nowhere)

Haha yea, debase. This is what the debate feels like to me:

Palin says something that SEEMS to be excellent and bring up a great point!

Biden smashes it down utterly and shows it to be wordplay or just false.

Palin retorts cattily.

Biden provides more substance and makes a direct assault.
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Sorry my bad, this is the continuous feed on the debate:

Palin blames financial crisis on Wall Street - CNN.com

Is it just me or does Palin's voice sound much more strained now than it did in the beginning of the debate?

It seems to me that reverse demographics are here. The women support Biden and the men support Palin more.

Biden is way more nervous than he should be. Palin is still a moron.

Biden is as good as he is ruthless. Palins opponents in Alaska were pussycats by comparison...

"I dont want to argue about the causes [of climate change]"
Um, stupid, you need to know the causes in order to find solutions.

BTW, I'm colorblind and have no clue which line is women or men. Thanks for making them similar shades of green and not making them red and blue, CNN.

How do you read the analyst scorecards on CNN? I just switched over from NBC to see the live reaction....

HDCNN, Daval.

Same-sex issue.... I'm listening to this one.

I'm on HDCnn, just wondering what the analyst scorecards mean and how you read them

It's green and orange, Will. Sorry you can't make em out :(. I think there is red/blue colorblindness too, so it's not like they can really make it easy.
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Neither of them approve gay marriage :(.

Palin still isn't familiar with John McCain's policy.
Ellen Challenges John McCain On Gay Marriage: "You're No Different Than I Am"

Oh, I can't see them. I don't have HDTV.

"I didn't hear a plan" - Biden responding to Palin dodging the question.

Edit: ROFL "The Talibani!" - Governor Sarah Palin

Biden destroyed Palin on Iraq. And it's not even finished.

Palin: "[Obama/Biden's plan in Iraq] is a white flag of surrender...."

Holy shit.

Who, exactly, would we be surrendering to?