05-05-2007, 05:07 AM | #1 (permalink) | |
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No Surprise Here: Bill O'Reilly is a Spin Doctor
I doubt this is a shock to anyone, but content analysis by Indiana University has shown Bill O'Reilly to be a significant source of "spin."
[sarcasm]Of course, universities are just another bastion of the liberal elite, so we probably shouldn't trust anything they say.[/sarcasm] Quote:
It seems to me, though, that O'Reilly may be feeling the pressure lately. He's always been a character, but he seems to be losing his temper more and more often (search youtube for his argument with Geraldo for the most extreme example). I have to wonder if he's getting pressure from up above as Fox News Channel's ratings continue to decline (while, admittedly, still remaining at the top of 24-hour cable news channels) and as criticism of him by organizations like Media Matters and the above study continue to get increased attention. Even during an interview in Ireland, he was faced with a reporter asking him about something Media Matters quoted him on. Clearly, the majority of Americans will not read these findings. Even among the ones who do, there will undoubtedly be those who defend Bill O'Reilly by thinking "well it's true!" Nonetheless, do you think that Bill O'Reilly's influence is slowly declining? Or do you think all the effort to show him for what he is is having little to no effect and that he will be a popular and influential voice in American politics for years/decades to come?
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05-05-2007, 05:25 AM | #2 (permalink) |
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Is it any surprise that his ratings are dropping? He hitched his cart to the current administration's horse. Now that his horse has gone lame, how long will it take for him to roll to a stop?
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05-05-2007, 06:12 AM | #3 (permalink) |
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He still didn't do bad for a guy who came to national attention as a host of one of the sleaziest tabloid tv shows .... Inside Edition.
He's made his millions and got his fame, I'm sure he doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks of him, he's laughing his way to the bank.
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05-05-2007, 03:48 PM | #4 (permalink) | |
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I'm not saying that O'Reilly hasn't or doesn't do the things that MM says, but I do not see them nit picking on what Fatass Rosie or the rest of Hollyweird says. How come? Because they are not an independant watch group, they are a left sided group creating hit pieces. And clearly Americans will never read any findings on Rosie,Penn,Sarandon and the whole lot of Hollyweirders on Media Matters because there will not be any.
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05-05-2007, 04:25 PM | #6 (permalink) | |
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When you finish watching, and reading the opposing views of what O'Reilly and Malkin "accomplished", I look forward to reading whether, if you had watched that video before you posted in defense of O'Reilly, you would still have had as much enthusiasm for posting. Also....did you make "Fatass Rosie" such a strong target of criticism, own your own? I'm skeptical that so many of you all spotaneously decided to take on such an irrevelant entertainer, all at the same time. Do you sit and watch "the View"? Aren't there more relevant opponents to take exception to, than entertainers? |
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05-05-2007, 05:47 PM | #7 (permalink) | |
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05-05-2007, 09:38 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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Olbermann has never called Mexicans 'wet-backs'.
Olbermann never sexually assaulted anyone. Olbermann never lied and said people took money from Abramoff when they didn't. Olbermann never attacked the son of a man who died on 9/11. Bill O'Reilly is more than a spin doctor and politicized pundit. He's a horrible human being. |
05-05-2007, 09:55 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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If Olbermann and I were to meet, I'd shake his hand and we'd discuss SportsCenter and Rita Cosby. I suspect we'd get along famously. I'm a liberal, after all.
If Bill O'Reilly and I were to meet, I call him on his BS, he'd end up trying to physically attack me (or sexually assault me) and I'd have to restrain him and accidentally knee him in the johnson repeatedly. Then I'd kick Ann Coulter in the johnson. For good measure. |
05-06-2007, 03:28 AM | #15 (permalink) |
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O'Reilly serves the purpose of extremism in the media. He does for TV what Rush does for radio, and he does it well. Granted this type of Media has become more entertainment than news, and many listen as a reality check to show them what NOT to do, but this in itself serves a valid purpose.
I tend to think of these folks along the same lines as the Daily Show. Both try to work the news into a form of entertainment. The main difference is the template used, one is harsh and leaves me feeling hateful. The other is funny and makes me laugh. I suppose it comes down to your own personal preference,and whether you want to enjoy the entertainment with a beer....or a shotgun. |
05-06-2007, 06:02 AM | #16 (permalink) | |
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05-06-2007, 06:30 AM | #17 (permalink) |
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To be fair, there is a significant difference shown in Pew's survey between the general Fox News viewer and the viewer who specifically watches The O'Reilly Factor.
Summary: Public Knowledge of Current Affairs Little Changed by News and Information Revolutions
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05-06-2007, 10:12 AM | #20 (permalink) |
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bill o'reilly...good christ...what a fuckwit.
the only element here that interests me at all is the fact that the study cited in the op quantifies the obvious in its analysis of o'reilly-rhetoric and the importance of the victimization trope in it...and this because thinking about this trope enables you to get a look at the quivering core of angst that powers the rides in conservativeland... fear of "invasion", fear of "pollution", fear of the corruption of the body retro-politic...all displacements of anxiety felt particularly by the petit bourgeois in a period of rapid socio-economic change that they do not and cannot either control or fully comprehend. maybe because this demographic actually believed the mythology they were sold as kids concerning the glories of the united states, city on a hill, the chosen land populated by the chosen people blah blah blah. things are changing and that is impossible. what do we do? where do we run away to? here is where the likes of o'reilly come in: they perform a very simple operation....class and status anxiety get mapped onto an easy to manage subjective space in which your body is the body of the nation and that which "threatens" is staged across imagery that mixes the discourses of cancer with those of military action. o'reilly, that shabby, ill-mannered little tool, is simply a talking head whose function is to consistently inform the body retro-politic of what it is afraid of. he is not talking about the world, really: he is adjusting the patterns for channelling anxiety that gives what is left of conservativeland its momentum. . and it appears that the body retro-politic found and maybe even still finds something therapeutic in this ritual, in the way that people once enjoyed going to drive-ins. following that analogy, i suppose that sooner or later folk will recognize that going to the drive-in means that they have to sit in their little cars even more than they already do...sooner or later folk will figure out that being trapped in their cars is not really fun and that behind the illusion of entertainment what they have really been getting is shitty sound, a bad image and mosquitos and that there really is no point in it.
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05-07-2007, 10:03 PM | #21 (permalink) |
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Extremism on either side, distorting facts and trying to destroy either side hurts this nation and takes our collective focus off fixing the problems and instead just arguing over who is right and who is wrong.
FUCK who is right and who is wrong let's start figuring out answers, make compromises and fucking fix the problems.
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" |
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