Mary Magdalene: Apostle? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

blahblah · 07-26-2003, 03:41 PM

Da Vinci, in his Last Supper, depicted Jesus with his 12 disciples. One of them is a woman -- Mary Magdalene, supposedly of Benjamin's line (see picture below). There is speculation that mary was not only a disciple, but the Beloved Disciple, and the one to whom Jesus gave the charge of establishing the church. Various "Gnostic" faiths believe this. The early Johannine Christian community revered Mary as their founder. The Gospel of John is also actually the Gospel of Mary, according to some scholars. Mary the Magdalene ("Magdalene" derives from the Hebrew word for "Pillar") -- who knows anything about this, and what do you know?

07-26-2003, 09:12 PM

Why didn't they eat on both sides of the table

Pennington · 07-26-2003, 09:41 PM

I was thinking the exact same thing. It's just like a sitcom dinner table.

Pennington · 07-26-2003, 09:51 PM

As for Mary M., the only real text about her is the Gnostic texts found in Egypt early this century. It is held that she was the wife of Jesus and also his most important apostle. It was very uncommon to have a rabbi and scholar remain a bachlor for long as the first divine commandment states "Go forth and multiply" and it was a sin not to do so. Gnostics belive that she was with the child of christ when she went off in a boat to southern France with a bunch of saints. I think the mother of the blessed virgin went with her. Anyway, it is held that the early French monarchy(Merovingians, just like in the MAtrix) derives from this bloodline, and that the Knights templar were created to protect it. The Pope didn't like the idea of decendents of the Christ walking the earth as they would have more influence than he would so he persecuted the Knights and the Frankish kings until the bloodline was decimated. There is supposedly a decendent of the Christ walking the earth to this day, and one of them will "awaken" and start his mission to free the rest of humanity from ignorance of the truth, eg NEO!!!

Rodney · 07-26-2003, 10:04 PM

Couldn't tell you the specifics. But I'm told that she's a saint in the Eastern Orthodox churches (aka Christianity 1.0, still in release and supported). So is Judas Iscariot, which makes sense if you think about it.

Jay Francis · 07-27-2003, 08:15 AM

This is intriguing. I have read Randall Helms's excellent 'Who Wrote the Gospels' in which he proposes that the language of 'Luke" especially the passages written about the 'birth announcement' are very feminine, such that 'Luke' might have had a female authorship. But his belief is that the 'most loved disciple' was a literary device to make the gospel sound as if it was written shortly after Jesus's death and not several decades up to a century later.

07-26-2003, 03:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
blahblah Upright	Mary Magdalene: Apostle? Da Vinci, in his Last Supper, depicted Jesus with his 12 disciples. One of them is a woman -- Mary Magdalene, supposedly of Benjamin's line (see picture below). There is speculation that mary was not only a disciple, but the Beloved Disciple, and the one to whom Jesus gave the charge of establishing the church. Various "Gnostic" faiths believe this. The early Johannine Christian community revered Mary as their founder. The Gospel of John is also actually the Gospel of Mary, according to some scholars. Mary the Magdalene ("Magdalene" derives from the Hebrew word for "Pillar") -- who knows anything about this, and what do you know? Last edited by blahblah; 07-26-2003 at 04:48 PM..

07-26-2003, 09:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
mepitans Guest	Why didn't they eat on both sides of the table

07-26-2003, 09:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pennington Banned Location: Autonomous Zone	I was thinking the exact same thing. It's just like a sitcom dinner table.

07-26-2003, 09:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pennington Banned Location: Autonomous Zone	As for Mary M., the only real text about her is the Gnostic texts found in Egypt early this century. It is held that she was the wife of Jesus and also his most important apostle. It was very uncommon to have a rabbi and scholar remain a bachlor for long as the first divine commandment states "Go forth and multiply" and it was a sin not to do so. Gnostics belive that she was with the child of christ when she went off in a boat to southern France with a bunch of saints. I think the mother of the blessed virgin went with her. Anyway, it is held that the early French monarchy(Merovingians, just like in the MAtrix) derives from this bloodline, and that the Knights templar were created to protect it. The Pope didn't like the idea of decendents of the Christ walking the earth as they would have more influence than he would so he persecuted the Knights and the Frankish kings until the bloodline was decimated. There is supposedly a decendent of the Christ walking the earth to this day, and one of them will "awaken" and start his mission to free the rest of humanity from ignorance of the truth, eg NEO!!!

07-26-2003, 10:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rodney Observant Ruminant Location: Rich Wannabe Hippie Town	Couldn't tell you the specifics. But I'm told that she's a saint in the Eastern Orthodox churches (aka Christianity 1.0, still in release and supported). So is Judas Iscariot, which makes sense if you think about it.

07-27-2003, 08:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jay Francis Psycho Location: Houston, Texas	This is intriguing. I have read Randall Helms's excellent 'Who Wrote the Gospels' in which he proposes that the language of 'Luke" especially the passages written about the 'birth announcement' are very feminine, such that 'Luke' might have had a female authorship. But his belief is that the 'most loved disciple' was a literary device to make the gospel sound as if it was written shortly after Jesus's death and not several decades up to a century later.