06-03-2003, 05:32 AM | #42 (permalink) |
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Many of us wished they had.. That may have, and I stress the word "may" have saved John from being killed. But we'll never know.. Thanks for the tidbit of info..
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I spent many years as a classroom teacher and college professor, so I've heard plenty of ridiculous questions. Yours ain't one of them. Eric Idle created The Rutles, which was the BEST parody of The Beatles anywhere, anytime. Also, George and Eric were connected in some way to film publications (I think George backed some Python films and other films involving Eric, but I'm totally fuzzy on those details). My post-break-up knowledge of George and Ringo is terribly lacking. Quote:
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06-03-2003, 12:25 PM | #45 (permalink) |
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"I'm always anxious to learn more about The Beatles, so I'm curious to read your thoughts about the collaboration on "Get Back." Can you tell which parts belong to whom?"
Ooops! I'm wrong. After a bit of googling the song was "I've got a feeling" Part by John and part by Paul. John's portion was from on unfinished song he had titled "Everyone had a hard year" Paul's was titled "I've got a feeling" Its easy to see how this song once was two. I was watching SNL that night, back when everybody watched SNL. I remember all the rumors about the 'lads' getting back together in Rolling Stone and other forms of media. I remember all the clatter about Klaatu when they release their first album, supposedly the Beatles incognito. It messes with your mind to think what might have been, had they gotten back together. Its hard to discount their effect not only on music but on all of culture worldwide. And to think it was over in just a flash, just 8 years. How many songs did the group record from 1962 to 1970? I have to admit I cheated, this was on the site I found on google. Last edited by Craven Morehead; 06-03-2003 at 12:27 PM.. |
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The best explanation I can come up with is that the most ingenious advertising gimmick of all time was created by The Beatles when they retreated into the studios in 1967. They created a hoax within a hoax by suggesting that Paul had died in a car crash in 1966 and had been replaced secretly by an imposter named William Campbell. Then, secret clues outlining the "hoax" was peppered throughout album covers, lyrics, recording techniques, and publicity photo shoots. However, by the time anybody began to piece together all the clues and figure it out, The Beatles were within months of breaking up. Therefore, the big rush to buy all their albums and investigate the clues came too late. The Beatles always officially denied anything about the "Paul Is Dead" stuff, but that's the only right answer anyway, if you think about it. An excellent book exists to explain in fantastic detail all of the clues and their various meanings entitled, "The Walrus Was Paul." Also, if you type "Paul Is Dead" or "William Campbell" into a web search engine, you can find some very entertaining sites. Needless to say, there are plenty of kooks out there who still believe that Paul is really dead, so be careful.
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06-03-2003, 09:36 PM | #48 (permalink) |
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"You KNOW I can't answer this one without looking it up, so I'm conceding this one. More than 200? I think... Sneaky damn devil."
Yep, 214. I can't take credit for stumping you as I found this on a website as I mentioned earlier. I won't be back to check this thread until the weekend, hope to see it continuing. Lots of fun. |
06-04-2003, 05:06 AM | #51 (permalink) | |
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On a related note (ha ha), the background vocals of "Paperback Writer" are singing "Frere Jacques." And by the way, if anybody ever asks you, the French words in "Michelle" translate as "These are words that go together well."
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06-04-2003, 05:24 AM | #52 (permalink) | |
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In the "regular recording gimmick" area, there is the single "Rain" by John. The last line of the song during the fadeout is a backwards recording of the songs's opening line "When the rain comes they run and hide their heads." Although many serious 20th Century composers had been experimenting with backwards recording for quite awhile, The Beatles were certainly the first pop act to try it. The most frequent backwards recording by The Beatles was used on drum parts and guitar solos. "Rain" was only released as a single by The Beatles, but I think it is on the "Past Masters" compilation album. The other category involves the controversial technique of back-masking, where normal words or gibberish are sung or spoken forwards, and they reveal hidden messages when played backwards. The two most frequently cited examples of back-masking in Beatles songs are the opening chant of "Revolution 9" and the closing gibberish in "I'm So Tired." In "Revolution 9," the piece begins with a repeated chant of "Number 9. Number 9. Number 9....." and if this is played backwards, it sounds like "Turn me on, dead man. Turn me on , dead man. Turn me on, dead man." In the closing gibberish in "I'm So Tired," the backwards version sounds like "Paul is dead man. I miss him, I miss him, I miss him." Both of these songs are on "The White Album."
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06-04-2003, 07:15 AM | #53 (permalink) |
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Nice job, warrrreagl. I think the backwards cymbal at the beginning of one of the tunes on Sgt. Pepper's was the first backwards recording in popular music.
I listened to "Revolution 9" backwards with my uncle when I was 12 and it sounds like, "Stand me up, dead man. Stand me up, dead man..." Turn me on dead man makes more sense though. Here's my next question for you: What exactly is it that makes "A Day in the Life" the best song ever? Serious question: What's the backwards sounding stuff at the end of that tune? Forwards it sounds like they're saying something about Annie Oakley. B/T/W This thread is GREAT! I love threads that really share someone's knowledge on an interesting topic. Thanks warrrreagl.
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It has true collaboration between John and Paul with the incredible orchestra crescendo between the sections. The orchestra was overdubbed 4 times, giving the impression of hundreds of musicians. The harmonic structure of the two pieces are G major (John's parts) and E major (Paul's parts). Normally, it would be difficult to modulate smoothly and functionally from G major to E major, but the orchestra crescendo takes care of it both times. Of course, it's the second orchestral run that leads to the marvelous E major chord that's slammed down and held forever at the end. The "Paul Is Dead" freaks refer to the lyrics of this song as hard proof that Paul died in a car crash, although John always said it described the death of a friend of theirs who was the heir to the Guiness fortune. The gibberish at the end was a small snippet of random tape loops that were spliced together and inserted after the dog whistle for Martha. I don't know how old you are, but on old record players, the tone arm would hit the end of an album and quickly slide along the grooves toward the center, causing the tone arm to "reject" and release another album onto the stack. The Beatles altered the pressing of "Sgt. Pepper" so that the last groove was "locked" and the tone arm would never advance toward the center and would never reject. The resulting effect is that the small taped gibberish at the end of "A Day In the Life" would repeat over and over and play indefinitely until you got up and manually rejected the album. The CD release of "Sgt. Pepper" recreated this effect by looping the gibberish together and repeating it several times. The random and repeating gibberish is almost like an audio Rorschach test, because everybody hears something different. I hear something about a pussy every time I listen to it.
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06-07-2003, 09:11 PM | #55 (permalink) | |
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at the end of the song, they tacked on a part of Blackbird but replaced the lyrics "Blackbird singing in the dead of night Take these broken wings and learn to fly" with "Punk ass trippin in the dead of night homies score and key is gonna fly, punk ass fly" it's a funny song, worth downloading to fully understand how it all comes together. as for the Simpsons trivia, the house they break into is Flanders's house and the names of the beverages they drink are classic collectable sodas entitled "John Lemon" and "Mango Starr."
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06-07-2003, 10:44 PM | #56 (permalink) | |
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I'm always anxious to learn more about The Beatles, so thank you. So far you've got the top prize for stumping me the best. It's yours unless someone can dethrone you. Who's next?
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06-07-2003, 11:04 PM | #57 (permalink) |
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not going to bother with a question, but another notable Beatles/Simpsons moment is that Marge is a known Ringo fan, back in the day she had painted a portrait of Ringo and mailed it to him, well she didn't hear from him for many years but in the present episode he finally wrote her back, insisting on answering all of his fan mail (piles and piles) it takes a while, but he answers everyone. he comments on how wonderful her picture is and hangs it up on his wall. it inspires Marge to start painting again.
p.s. as with most all guest stars on the simpsons, Ringo voiced himself for the episode.
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And I dug the Simpsons info; more stuff I did not know.
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06-08-2003, 04:23 PM | #59 (permalink) |
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i meant bother myself with posing a question i knew you couldn't answer! hehe j/k!
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06-27-2003, 11:56 AM | #60 (permalink) |
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During the Get Back sessions approximatly how much time was recorded onto the 16min reels? And who was the major distributor of copies of the reels for the past years who isn't in operation anymore.
What song was recorded in a Ready, Steady, Go! video which was never realeased on any album? What was George against doing with The Beatles but ended up doing eitherway? That's it for now... Edit: There was one question about George's favorite guitar... I'm taking a guess here and saying that it was his 360/12 that got stolen not long after the Candlestick Park concert... If not, then i'll say it was his Gretsch Duo Jet... Last edited by commewtf; 06-27-2003 at 12:11 PM.. |
06-28-2003, 02:43 PM | #61 (permalink) |
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OK, tie this all together. What does the following have in common? And yes, some of it is Beatles based. If you can figure out each one of the following, then figure out what they all have in common.
Gong Bangers A Welsh apple in the orchard Thin white duke Singers in a rock and roll band More than just an assistant |
06-30-2003, 03:53 AM | #64 (permalink) |
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Friggen GREAT thread guys!! I'm a latecomer to the Beatles.. Well, I always loved their music (or at least what I heard of it.. mostly singles) but I was born in '77 so never saw them at their peak (or even TOGETHER). A while back my GF bought the Beatles Anthology DVDs and they sat around for a while until I watched them last week. What a fascinating story! It blows my mind to think of just how much music they created in what is a relatively short amount of time. Now I'll have to get all the albums
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06-30-2003, 05:55 AM | #65 (permalink) |
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Wouldn't you know it? I usually check this Forum several times a day on the outside chance that someone has revived this thread.
Then I go out of town for a few days. Then I get a PM from Craven Morehead telling me that I'm suddenly several posts behind. Wouldn't you just know it? Give me a minute, gang. On my first reading, I knew most of them, but there's one post I need to think about. Don't worry; I won't look it up...
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The missing release from Ready, Steady, Go! was the ultimate frat party song, "Shout!" I'm actually glad they didn't release it, because I don't think it's a very good version. I'm sure that when they were belting it out back in Hamburg it sounded a lot better. I need more info on the George question. A hundred things are running through my head and it could be any of them. Thanks for the questions!
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Welsh apple in the orchard = Mary Hopkins Thin white duke = Bowie Singers in a rock and roll band = Moody Blues More than just an assistant = ??? But most importantly, I am unable to tie them all together and connect them to the Beatles (as a bound unit). Connecting Mary Hopkins is easy, but I have to cry "Uncle" about the others. Dang it, Craven, this is exactly the kind of question I love, but you got me with it.
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06-30-2003, 07:03 AM | #68 (permalink) | |
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Trident Recording Studios? Is that it?
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06-30-2003, 09:05 AM | #70 (permalink) | |
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*in my best Johnny Carson voice* I did not know that. Good grief, Lennon. May Pang? I mean, really. May Pang??!!?? Could he have picked anyone uglier for an "assistant?" When I typed in T. Rex, Bowie, Mary Hopkins, and Beatles into my search engine, I got this site for a recording studio called Trident. http://www.pulse-disco.co.uk/recording_studio.htm
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06-30-2003, 09:24 AM | #71 (permalink) |
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Since this is my thread, I'm allowed to go off-topic slightly. Here's a bit of personal Beatles trivia that I posted on another thread about concerts. I'm sure you've all probably read it before, but I couldn't resist.
This was my response to a lucky dog who got to see The Beatles in concert in Memphis in 1966. <<**huff puff huff puff* *fuming with anger, resentment, awe, envy, and respect* The Beatles. You got to see the frickin' Beatles. I bow to your greatness. There was a radio station in Montgomery, AL called WBAM back then, and the owner owned stations in Memphis, Birmingham, and Jacksonville, FL, also. He had booked The Beatles to play in his four towns during that 66 tour. My folks were all set to buy us tickets, and our whole family was going to go. And then Lennon had to open his big fat mouth. And then Birmingham started burning records. And then, as if by magic, Birmingham and Montgomery were dropped from the tour (although Memphis and Jacksonville remained). My folks didn't want to make the drive that far, so I never got to see them. Dang it.>> By the way, that radio station owner did manage to book some pretty great bands back then. He would create tour stops in those four cities, and many of the touring artists would converge on Montgomery for the same night. They were called Big Bam Shows (in honor of the Montgomery radio station, WBAM). All these acts would take the stage for one or two songs and then the next act would follow. It was fantastic. My father took us to one of those shows and we were able to see Paul Revere & The Raiders, Dave Clark Five, Swingin' Medallions, Classics IV, and Herman's Hermits all in the same night. Okay, the commercial is over. Now, it's back to the Beatles Challenge.
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06-30-2003, 10:23 AM | #72 (permalink) |
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Read the 'about' section on his website
http://www.tonyvisconti.com/index.htm I think you will really like the last part. Tony is one guy that can truly say he was there. And has been for a long long time. Great career. |
06-30-2003, 05:54 PM | #74 (permalink) |
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Are there any Beatles songs out there that, to this day, remain entirely unreleased and have never been heard by anyone outside the band?
Just cause I think that if new Beatles material were released today, it would create a hell of a stir.
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06-30-2003, 08:30 PM | #76 (permalink) | |
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And speaking of Billy Preston, when his hit "That's the Way God Planned It" was first released, I could have sworn he was singing "That's the Way, Goddamn It!" I keep meaning to submit this one to the mondegreen people,, but I keep forgetting.
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06-30-2003, 08:43 PM | #77 (permalink) | |
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My best guess is that Paul, George, and Ringo listened exhaustively at the mountains of tape before agreeing to re-record Real Love and Free As a Bird (having decided that the other unreleased material was somehow not up to snuff).
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07-02-2003, 06:11 AM | #79 (permalink) |
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Glad to see another Beatle fanatic around. Great job so far on all of the answers.
These two should be no challenge for you, but I submit them anyways. Who is singing backup on "Back in the U.S.S.R."? What singnificanct first does the band "Badfinger" hold in the recording industry?
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07-02-2003, 02:39 PM | #80 (permalink) |
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here's my question:
where was i, when i was in the same room as the 4-track they used to record Pepper, while some old left-handed bass player dude was playing me his (as yet, unreleased) new album, towards the end of '88 ? i'll buy you a bottle of Bacardi, if you can answer that one |
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