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warrrreagl · 10-18-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Beatlefan58

Here's another, then: There were many songs dedicated to John Lennon after his death. Can you name one that was dedicated to him before he died (and I don't mean "The Ballad Of John And Yoko").

I don't know either, but I'll guess Stephen Stills' "Johnny's Garden."

Beatlefan58 · 10-19-2004, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by quadro2000

I don't know the answer - but can you explain the stylistic relation of Let Me Roll It to John? I've never heard that before.

I've read it a few places, and found this one on-line via Google:

http://www.bandontherun.com/content/letmerollit.html

Let Me Roll It (4.47)

It has been suggested that this song is Paul doing an imitation of the production style of his former songwriting partner John Lennon, the so-called 'bathroom tile' echo especially evident on Lennon's 1970 Plastic Ono Band. Paul has said that he can't see the resemblance:

PAUL: I still don't think it sounds like him, but that's your opinion. I can dig it if it sounds that way to you (McCartney, qtd. in Gambaccini, 83).

He appears to soften this position somewhat in Club Sandwich, his fan newsletter:

PAUL: My use of tape echo did sound more like John than me ... But tape echo was not John's territory exclusively! And you have to remember that, despite the myth, there was a lot of commonality between us in the way that we thought and the way that we worked (McCartney, qtd. in Rosen, 173).

Beatlefan58 · 10-19-2004, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by warrrreagl

I don't know either, but I'll guess Stephen Stills' "Johnny's Garden."

Hmmm, I've never heard that one, so I can't confirm or deny; it's not the one I had in mind. The one I refer to was a Top 40 single (at least in the US).

quadro2000 · 10-19-2004, 11:04 AM

Edited 'cause I'm an idiot. Explained in the following post.

God of Thunder · 10-19-2004, 11:11 AM

I thought Elton John did "Johhny's Garden" and if so, he did that after John died.

quadro2000 · 10-19-2004, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by God of Thunder

I thought Elton John did "Johhny's Garden" and if so, he did that after John died.

He did. It was called "Empty Garden (Hey Hey Johnny)."

I edited my previous post because I mistakenly mentioned "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" as an Elton song when it was really a John song.

Good story though: Elton sang backing vocals on this song and was convinced it was going to be a hit. John thought otherwise, so they made a bet: If it became a hit, John had to show up on stage with Elton to sing it. (And John hadn't been on stage in a number of years). It went to #1, and in 1974, John showed up, battling apparent stage fright, to sing the song. They also did "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" and "I Saw Her Standing There." I believe it was John's last public appearance on stage?

warrrreagl · 10-19-2004, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by God of Thunder

I thought Elton John did "Johhny's Garden" and if so, he did that after John died.

The Stephen Stills song "Johnny's Garden" was on "Manassas" from 1972. But it WAS the Elton John song that made me think of the Stephen Stills song, and that's what led me to pulling a guess from way out of my butt like that.

Oops. Shouldn't have mentioned "Elton John" and "out of my butt" in the same sentence.

warrrreagl · 10-19-2004, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by quadro2000

He did. It was called "Empty Garden (Hey Hey Johnny)."

I edited my previous post because I mistakenly mentioned "Whatever Gets You Through The Night" as an Elton song when it was really a John song.

Good story though: Elton sang backing vocals on this song and was convinced it was going to be a hit. John thought otherwise, so they made a bet: If it became a hit, John had to show up on stage with Elton to sing it. (And John hadn't been on stage in a number of years). It went to #1, and in 1974, John showed up, battling apparent stage fright, to sing the song. They also did "Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds" and "I Saw Her Standing There." I believe it was John's last public appearance on stage?

Good story. Wasn't Yoko hiding backstage also, and it led to their reconcilliation?

Beatlefan58 · 10-19-2004, 01:30 PM

I won't post it here now, but the answer is found below if anyone wants to go see it.

http://www.iamthebeatles.com/article1037.html

mdib · 11-01-2004, 11:08 AM

heres a little one to keep the thread going:

Who was the famous radio DJ that died recently who was known for starting and ending his show with Beatles blocks?

God of Thunder · 11-01-2004, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by warrrreagl

Oops. Shouldn't have mentioned "Elton John" and "out of my butt" in the same sentence.

Eewwww, No! Throw in a George Michael reference and I'll begin to worry about you.

Harry Cox · 11-01-2004, 05:16 PM

John Peel?

quadro2000 · 11-04-2004, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mdib

heres a little one to keep the thread going:

Who was the famous radio DJ that died recently who was known for starting and ending his show with Beatles blocks?

The amazing Scott Muni of WABC, WNEW and WAXQ fame. He will be missed.

I believe Lennon visited his show at one point and played DJ, even reading advertisements on the air.

warrrreagl · 11-04-2004, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by quadro2000

The amazing Scott Muni of WABC, WNEW and WAXQ fame. He will be missed.

I believe Lennon visited his show at one point and played DJ, even reading advertisements on the air.

How have I missed the latest few posts in this thread? Oh well.

mdib · 11-05-2004, 06:04 AM

hehe good job... He will be missed indeed

warrrreagl · 05-24-2005, 07:03 AM

Six months is too long without Beatles stumpers....

micah67 · 05-24-2005, 10:14 AM

Ok, to get the ball (re)rolling...

"Lady Madonna" mentions each day of the week but one. Which day is missing?

warrrreagl · 05-24-2005, 06:12 PM

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Ok, to get the ball (re)rolling...

"Lady Madonna" mentions each day of the week but one. Which day is missing?

Sabado!

Ah, this feels good again.

micah67 · 05-24-2005, 07:49 PM

This may have been asked before but so much time has passed...

What are the shortest and longest Beatle songs?

warrrreagl · 05-25-2005, 03:32 AM

Man, it sure is tempting to look this up first, but here are my guesses.

Shortest - "Her Majesty" - Abbey Road
Longest - "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" - Abbey Road

warrrreagl · 05-25-2005, 05:55 AM

I just looked it up, and I missed one of them.....

raveneye · 05-25-2005, 06:11 AM

For shortest/longest I guess we would have to define what a "song" is . . . there are shorter little musical snippets than Her Majesty, like that little classical guitar run just before Bungalow Bill on the White Album. And for longest I would have guessed Revolution 9, although maybe that doesn't qualify as a song. Other than that I would have said it's a tossup between Hey Jude and I Want You (She's So Heavy).

Here's a question for musicians: how many songs can you list in which a diminished chord is used, and who wrote them?

warrrreagl · 05-25-2005, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by raveneye

Here's a question for musicians: how many songs can you list in which a diminished chord is used, and who wrote them?

Man, I can't even name the songs that I wrote containing diminished chords without looking it up first. I'll get back to you.

/me reaching for my Beatle books....

Also, I need a clarification. Are we talking about dimished triads, fully dimished seventh chords, AND half-dimished seventh chords (sometimes referred to as minor-seventh flat-5)?

warrrreagl · 05-25-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by raveneye

Here's a question for musicians: how many songs can you list in which a diminished chord is used, and who wrote them?

**CHEATER ALERT**
I looked these up, as I admitted I would do.

First of all, there were no fully diminished seventh chords that I could find in any Beatles songs.

However, there were several diminished triads out there, as listed by composer:
Blue Jay Way - C dim (George)
I Want to Tell You - B dim (George)
If I Fell - F dim (John)
Because - D dim (John)
Michelle - D dim and B dim (Paul)
P.S. I Love You - C# dim (Paul)
You Won't See Me - D dim (Paul)
You Know My Name (Look Up the Number) - G# dim (all Beatles)

Then, there were a couple of Paul's songs with half-diminished seventh chords (minor seventh with flat 5):
Carry That Weight - Bmin7(b5)
You Never Give Me Your Money - Bmin7(b5)

If anyone asks about augmented chords, somebody else will have to look up that one....

raveneye · 05-25-2005, 11:47 AM

Well I was thinking of either a full diminished chord or a diminished triad, not a half-diminished (or minor 7 b5) chord.

When I asked the question the only songs I had in mind were George songs, Old Brown Shoe, I Want To Tell You, and Blue Jay Way. (My memory may be off with Old Brown Shoe.) It seems to me, off the top of my head, that George seemed to use diminished chords more than the others, at least early on. His songs usually seemed to have a darker more minor quality, and a diminished chord is three minor intervals piled on top of each other.

warrrreagl · 05-26-2005, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by raveneye

Well I was thinking of either a full diminished chord or a diminished triad, not a half-diminished (or minor 7 b5) chord.

When I asked the question the only songs I had in mind were George songs, Old Brown Shoe, I Want To Tell You, and Blue Jay Way. (My memory may be off with Old Brown Shoe.) It seems to me, off the top of my head, that George seemed to use diminished chords more than the others, at least early on. His songs usually seemed to have a darker more minor quality, and a diminished chord is three minor intervals piled on top of each other.

Damn good call, raveneye! I missed Old Brown Shoe. The line in the bridge that goes "Who knows baby, you may comfort me," is under F# dim up until the G Major on the word "me."

Damn good call.

BuBoL · 06-08-2005, 06:55 PM

If the simpsons one from the 1st page hasnt been answered yet..

they were in ned flander's house

warrrreagl · 06-09-2005, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BuBoL

If the simpsons one from the 1st page hasnt been answered yet..

they were in ned flander's house

I don't think it was answered (not by me, anyway). Thanks.

Blasphemy. · 02-10-2006, 03:51 AM

We can't let this thread die guys!
In Rock and Roll History we've been studying about these guys for hours, so I know a few tid-bits now.

1) What made the recording style/way used in SGT.Peppers so groundbreaking?

2) What instrument is used at the beginning of Strawberry Fields Forever, and why is it so different?

3) What Beatles Cd version is probably the most expensive/rare one to find these days, and why?

AVoiceOfReason · 02-10-2006, 05:26 AM

I'll take a guess at numbers 2 and 3; I know a lot about SGT. PEPPER and the recording of it, but not sure what you're looking for there.

2. The Mellotron. It's different because it can only be played one note at a time.

3. I'd say the Japanese issue of ABBEY ROAD, which came out a couple of years before the catalog in its entirety came out. But it may be some issue of THE WHITE ALBUM, since it would be doubly expensive to start with?

chelsea_9 · 02-11-2006, 11:48 AM

i'll take a stab at 1 and 3. iiim probably wrong, but eh.

1] the songs together tell a story. and it was the first of their albums to mix classic intrumentation and electronic effects.

3] and i know that the original cover of sgt.pepper's had gandhi and leo gorcey. but the record label had them removed. im not sure if its true, but apparently theres a few copies of the record where they just put a sticker on top that didnt have gandhi and leo gorcey in it.

warrrreagl · 03-27-2006, 12:17 PM

The wind carries questions of Beatles to my long-decayed ears and the resurrection begins anew. The bones creak as the dead rise again. Slowly. My putrified inner organs begin re-forming and re-aligning, and I am born again to speak to another generation about.....BEATLES

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1) What made the recording style/way used in SGT.Peppers so groundbreaking?

Sgt. Pepper. How can anyone accurately document all the monumental changes brought into the recording industry by this one album?

1) The first true concept album from beginning to end. Previously, music bands simply recorded singles and these singles were later pressed into albums. After Sgt. Pepper, EVERYBODY began to sit down in the studio and record albums instead of singles. Monumental shift in philosophy.

2) Fantastic cover art, where the art outside is equal in importance to the music inside. The cover art was conceptualized and created by Peter Blake as the Beatles are made to represent another band giving a concert in the park. Peter Blake asked each Beatle to supply a list of people (living or dead) they would want to be at this fictitious concert. John's list included Ghandi, Jesus, and Hitler (all of them either painted out or not used). George's list was all gurus. Since some of the people were still living, EMI Records had to get written permission to use their likenesses. Actor Leo Gorcey demanded a fee and was removed (moron!). Actress Mae West initially refused outright (she didn't want to be associated with a lonely hearts club), but the Beatles wrote her a nice letter and she changed her mind. Also, this was one of the first albums to include printed lyrics and a gatefold sleeve.

3) Unparalleled studio techniques. Nearly everything was distorted, limited, heavily compressed, and/or excessively equalized. Some of the innovations include microphones stuck down into the bells of brass instruments, microphones attached to headphones and then placed around the body of a violin, vocals sent through the revolving Leslie amp in a Hammond B-3 organ, chopped and spliced tape loops (the first example of musique concrete in popular music), a 15Khz tone put at the end to annoy the dog, and nonsense chatter in a lock-groove at the end of the album.

4) Undeniable drug influence.

5) Facial hair. Paul was the first to grow his mustache in the Fall of '66 as an attempt to hide the scar on his top lip after his moped accident. The other Beatles followed suit so as to help him blend.

6) Psychedelic clothes.

7) Creative effort. The Beatles' first album, "Please Please Me" was recorded and mixed down in less than 10 hours. "Sgt. Pepper" took over 700 clock hours to complete. By the way, the original order of songs for Side A was supposed to be 1 - 2 - 7 - 5 - 3 - 4 - 6, and programmable CD players allow us to hear it the way the Beatles really intended.

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2) What instrument is used at the beginning of Strawberry Fields Forever, and why is it so different?

It was indeed the Mellotron, and you could have ruled the world in 1967 with a 4-track recorder and a Mellotron. Oh yeah, they did that, didn't they? Nice answer, AVoiceOfReason.

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3) What Beatles Cd version is probably the most expensive/rare one to find these days, and why?

I don't understand the question. Nothing released by the Beatles on CD only and not vinyl is of any value yet, to my knowledge. The most valuable Beatles album is "Introducing the Beatles" - VeeJay - U.S. first album, released before the contract with Capitol Records was ironed out. I have it. What I don't have is the Butcher Baby album.....

warrrreagl · 08-23-2009, 04:32 AM

I'm reviving this motherfucker. Go to the OP so you'll know what you're supposed to do, and then ask your questions, puny mortals.

BUMP, y'all.

thirdsun · 09-12-2009, 08:00 AM

What is the connection between The Beatles and Wolfsburg, Germany.

jewels · 09-13-2009, 05:19 AM

What is She Came In Through The Bathroom Window about?

Which song was on the B side of the single Get Back?

Which is the song where none of the Beatles played an instrument?

Baraka_Guru · 09-13-2009, 05:34 AM

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Which is the song where none of the Beatles played an instrument?

Bonus question: What was the inspiration for this song?

warrrreagl · 09-14-2009, 04:52 AM

This happens every time. Somebody will finally ask a question, and I won't see it for three days.

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What is the connection between The Beatles and Wolfsburg, Germany.

No clue.

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Originally Posted by jewels

What is She Came In Through The Bathroom Window about?

Which song was on the B side of the single Get Back?

Which is the song where none of the Beatles played an instrument?

"She Came in Through the Bathroom Wndow" was about a girl who broke into Paul's home.

"Don't Let Me Down"

"Eleanor Rigby"

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Bonus question: What was the inspiration for this song?

This just came out last year - it was either a nurse or a patient at a Liverpool hospital that Paul found in an old log/journal. I can't remember exactly which.

thirdsun · 09-15-2009, 05:14 AM

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No clue.

You call yourself a Beatles trivia master and that's the best you can do?

So, I guess I get bragging rights for stumping you?

warrrreagl · 09-15-2009, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by thirdsun

You call yourself a Beatles trivia master and that's the best you can do?

So, I guess I get bragging rights for stumping you?

Brag away, because you stumped me. According to the rules, I can't look up the answer - it has to be off the top of my head. And you got me.

PROVIDING...you know the answer yourself and share it.

thirdsun · 09-16-2009, 04:05 AM

The Volkswagen Beetle parked next to the zebra crossing belonged to one of the people living in the apartment across from the recording studio. After the album Abbey Road came out, the number plate was stolen repeatedly from the car. In 1986, the car was sold at an auction for $23,000 and is currently on display at the Volkswagen museum in Wolfsburg, Germany.

10-19-2004, 11:04 AM	#244 (permalink)
quadro2000 All Possibility, Made Of Custard Location: New York, NY	Edited 'cause I'm an idiot. Explained in the following post. __________________ You have to laugh at yourself...because you'd cry your eyes out if you didn't. - Emily Saliers Last edited by quadro2000; 10-19-2004 at 11:14 AM..

10-19-2004, 11:11 AM	#245 (permalink)
God of Thunder Talk nerdy to me Location: Flint, MI	I thought Elton John did "Johhny's Garden" and if so, he did that after John died. __________________ I reject your reality, and substitute my own -- Adam Savage

05-24-2005, 07:03 AM	#256 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	Six months is too long without Beatles stumpers.... __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

05-24-2005, 10:14 AM	#257 (permalink)
micah67 Thor Location: 33:08:12N 117:10:23W	Ok, to get the ball (re)rolling... "Lady Madonna" mentions each day of the week but one. Which day is missing? __________________ ~micah

05-24-2005, 07:49 PM	#259 (permalink)
micah67 Thor Location: 33:08:12N 117:10:23W	This may have been asked before but so much time has passed... What are the shortest and longest Beatle songs? __________________ ~micah

10-19-2004, 01:30 PM	#249 (permalink)
Beatlefan58 Banned	I won't post it here now, but the answer is found below if anyone wants to go see it. http://www.iamthebeatles.com/article1037.html

11-01-2004, 11:08 AM	#250 (permalink)
mdib Upright	heres a little one to keep the thread going: Who was the famous radio DJ that died recently who was known for starting and ending his show with Beatles blocks?

11-01-2004, 05:16 PM	#252 (permalink)
Harry Cox Insane	John Peel?

11-05-2004, 06:04 AM	#255 (permalink)
mdib Upright	hehe good job... He will be missed indeed

05-25-2005, 03:32 AM	#260 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	Man, it sure is tempting to look this up first, but here are my guesses. Shortest - "Her Majesty" - Abbey Road Longest - "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" - Abbey Road __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

05-25-2005, 05:55 AM	#261 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	I just looked it up, and I missed one of them..... __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed.

05-25-2005, 06:11 AM	#262 (permalink)
raveneye Born Against	For shortest/longest I guess we would have to define what a "song" is . . . there are shorter little musical snippets than Her Majesty, like that little classical guitar run just before Bungalow Bill on the White Album. And for longest I would have guessed Revolution 9, although maybe that doesn't qualify as a song. Other than that I would have said it's a tossup between Hey Jude and I Want You (She's So Heavy). Here's a question for musicians: how many songs can you list in which a diminished chord is used, and who wrote them?

05-25-2005, 11:47 AM	#265 (permalink)
raveneye Born Against	Well I was thinking of either a full diminished chord or a diminished triad, not a half-diminished (or minor 7 b5) chord. When I asked the question the only songs I had in mind were George songs, Old Brown Shoe, I Want To Tell You, and Blue Jay Way. (My memory may be off with Old Brown Shoe.) It seems to me, off the top of my head, that George seemed to use diminished chords more than the others, at least early on. His songs usually seemed to have a darker more minor quality, and a diminished chord is three minor intervals piled on top of each other.

06-08-2005, 06:55 PM	#267 (permalink)
BuBoL Upright	If the simpsons one from the 1st page hasnt been answered yet.. they were in ned flander's house __________________ Booo!

02-10-2006, 03:51 AM	#269 (permalink)
Blasphemy. Tilted	We can't let this thread die guys! In Rock and Roll History we've been studying about these guys for hours, so I know a few tid-bits now. 1) What made the recording style/way used in SGT.Peppers so groundbreaking? 2) What instrument is used at the beginning of Strawberry Fields Forever, and why is it so different? 3) What Beatles Cd version is probably the most expensive/rare one to find these days, and why?

02-10-2006, 05:26 AM	#270 (permalink)
AVoiceOfReason Psycho Location: Greenwood, Arkansas	I'll take a guess at numbers 2 and 3; I know a lot about SGT. PEPPER and the recording of it, but not sure what you're looking for there. 2. The Mellotron. It's different because it can only be played one note at a time. 3. I'd say the Japanese issue of ABBEY ROAD, which came out a couple of years before the catalog in its entirety came out. But it may be some issue of THE WHITE ALBUM, since it would be doubly expensive to start with? __________________ AVOR A Voice Of Reason, not necessarily the ONLY one.

02-11-2006, 11:48 AM	#271 (permalink)
chelsea_9 Crazy Location: somewhere i intend to leave	i'll take a stab at 1 and 3. iiim probably wrong, but eh. 1] the songs together tell a story. and it was the first of their albums to mix classic intrumentation and electronic effects. 3] and i know that the original cover of sgt.pepper's had gandhi and leo gorcey. but the record label had them removed. im not sure if its true, but apparently theres a few copies of the record where they just put a sticker on top that didnt have gandhi and leo gorcey in it. __________________ all good dreamers pass this way some day hiding behind bottles in dark cafes

08-23-2009, 04:32 AM	#273 (permalink)
warrrreagl pinche vato Location: backwater, Third World, land of cotton	I'm reviving this motherfucker. Go to the OP so you'll know what you're supposed to do, and then ask your questions, puny mortals. BUMP, y'all. __________________ Living is easy with eyes closed. Last edited by warrrreagl; 08-23-2009 at 04:39 AM..

09-12-2009, 08:00 AM	#274 (permalink)
thirdsun rolls good	What is the connection between The Beatles and Wolfsburg, Germany.

09-13-2009, 05:19 AM	#275 (permalink)
jewels Eponymous Location: Central Central Florida	What is She Came In Through The Bathroom Window about? Which song was on the B side of the single Get Back? Which is the song where none of the Beatles played an instrument? __________________ We are always more anxious to be distinguished for a talent which we do not possess, than to be praised for the fifteen which we do possess. Mark Twain

09-16-2009, 04:05 AM	#280 (permalink)
thirdsun rolls good	The Volkswagen Beetle parked next to the zebra crossing belonged to one of the people living in the apartment across from the recording studio. After the album Abbey Road came out, the number plate was stolen repeatedly from the car. In 1986, the car was sold at an auction for $23,000 and is currently on display at the Volkswagen museum in Wolfsburg, Germany.