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Reggie6 06-26-2003 03:55 PM

I just kinda skimmed thru the post so I may be jumping the gun here, but I didn't see anyone mention KISS. Possibly the most overrated band ever. Come on... Domino? Rock n' Roll All Night? They have written some of the worst music ever.

modest 06-26-2003 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alterEGO


trance music is overrated.

trance over rated?....dont get me wrong i love jimi hell... i'll rip out castles made of sand on my strat....but i do love trance. you claim to like Floyd. Put a four to the floor behind their sound FX and you have trance...


overrated = Dashboard Confessionals
underrated = death cab for cutie


(recently came home from a trance party):cool:

hawkeye 06-26-2003 10:30 PM

Overrated:
Creed;
Linkin Park;
Limp Bizket;
Avril Lavigne(sp?);
st. Anger;
bob rock as producer;
good charlotte;
and just about anything related to Emo.

sportsrule101 07-24-2003 08:21 AM

all new pop
and kiss, they were great entertainers but way overrated
tool blows as well

LivingDead 07-25-2003 11:10 PM

Disturbed - Down with the sickness

It got overplayed to death!

123123 07-26-2003 08:49 AM

I'll admit I just skimmed through many of the posts aswell...but I didn't see Kenny 'Friggin' G. OK...I understand you have to first convince yourself that this excriment is music. But, tons of yuppie "lovebirds" think it's great make-out music...even worse...many of them think he's a jazz artist.AAAHHHHHH!!!! Well, anyway you slice it...Mr. Gorelick's "music" is overrated on all levels....and may God have mercy on his soul (and those in the record industry who let this happen)

collide 07-31-2003 09:47 AM

Mariah Carey, the limelight whore, and her damn whistle register. She's definitely got a rare ability to reach those octaves, but I think she gets way too much credit for it.

90degree 07-31-2003 10:11 AM

Reggie6

...umm.. how old are you?

if you are any age under 30... then I am not sure that comment holds any weight at all. just my opinion ... KISS was HUGE when they were big... heh. and now... well... I dont honestly know.. have not listened to anything new by them in at least a decade.

obediah 07-31-2003 11:31 PM

I think the best way to answer this question is to tune into one of your many local clearchannel stations. "Rated" as in from major reviewers are pretty much all bought by the music industry. Even supposedly serious mags like Rolling Stone give a 1.5 - 2.0 star bonus for being pop music from a big label.

So it's safe to say that all pop music is overrated without commenting on the quality at all.

obediah 07-31-2003 11:45 PM

to answer the question in the more traditional way.

I agree strongly that the White Stripes, like all first wave (within the current wave) of garage bands are. They're kind of a boring amalgamation of what's come before, but they're better enough than boy bands, bad girl singers, "I'm a freak! Seriously, look at how freaky I am" poser-goth, and that horrid pierced/tattooed bang the drums and spins the beats heavy metal-rap-rock crap, that I and everyone else with any musical taste is excited to see them back.

Nirvana had the same thing going for them. And with Kurt winning the publicity stunt of the century award, they catapulted way into the overrated stratosphere. I remember about 3 months before Kurts stunt, MTV did a "Best Alternative Videos fo All Time", on which SLTS hit #9 or so. 3 months after the stunt they did "Best Videos of All Time" and SLTS was #1. huh? If I hadn't been poor, I would have broken my TV and then used the pieces to kill everyone at MTV.

I'm not a big fan of U2 or The Beatles, but would consider U2 much more overrated, even though the Beatles are rated much higher.

I don't see how Jimi Hendrix could be considered over-rated.

I also don't see how Tom Waits could be over-rated. Actually I do see it, if you sat around listening to some lame ass friends go on and on about him forever, and have seen every artist ever interviewed name his as one of their biggest points of inspiration, and then pick up a CD. You're going to go huh? this is good, but not that good. But then as you work your way through 30 years of excellent and varied releases, (oh say the 80's when all the other big 70's musicians were turning out electro-crap or just rotting in coke), and Tom was learning to use his tortured voice as just another instrument, you realize that Tom Waits is beyond trends, styles, motifs or other constraints. When you work through the varied tragic, dark, odd, weird, oddly-weird, yet all excellent lyrics you can understand why he's influenced so many people.

Panopticon 08-01-2003 02:09 PM

I think Dave Matthews Band is the most overrated band of all time. Certainly they are the most overrated band today, in my opinion. Their music just isn't good. Dave Matthews can't sing worth a shit, either. The biggest argument I hear about them is the fact that they have like Saxophones and Violins and shit...who cares? It still doesn't sound good. I applaud them for actually trying to be different with all sorts of instruments, but they simply don't pull it off. It sounds like trash.

punkgrl1984 08-01-2003 05:55 PM

I think U2 and Creed are SOOO overrated. I just don't like many of their songs if any.

Basket Case 08-01-2003 07:34 PM

Man, I don't think I could possibly agree more with bullgoose and BulletBob.

I've just got two things to say about all this rucus.

1. Music is an artform. You can't perfect a Dali painting. Add as many sprinkles and stripes as you want, your just fucking it up. Good music is created in its own perfection, and to try to "Perfect" that is just humping off the original artist for cash. For you see, it's not about trying to find something better than the Beatles, Stones or Doors, they're the best in their own respects. The point is to find something different.

2. I don't know how many times I have to enthesize the fact that TOOL SUCKS!!!!!!
Oooooh, 5/8 timming!!!
WHO CARES!!!
It's crappy teen-goth poetry set to odd beats.
Sonic Youth is weird to be artistic, Tool's weird to be weird to sell records.

deadbabiesrhot 08-02-2003 02:23 PM

Cannibal Corpse
Mozart
Led Zeppelin
Most singles bands these days.

Katyblu 08-02-2003 05:03 PM

Definitely:
KISS- now back in the day they might have been kings but ever since the make-up came off they should just die
Aerosmith- again the old stuff is good but now- stop playing music!
Rolling Stones- Just die already!
The White Stripes
mariah Carey
50cent
P Diddy
Avril

krwlz 09-03-2003 04:44 PM

Definatly the beatles. Other then that, nothing imparticular comes to mind.

Fallen 09-03-2003 07:40 PM

Quote:

2. I don't know how many times I have to enthesize the fact that TOOL SUCKS!!!!!!
Oooooh, 5/8 timming!!!
WHO CARES!!!
It's crappy teen-goth poetry set to odd beats.
Some get it. Some don't. I, personally, think Tool produces some of the most thought provoking, innovative, and down right kick ass music currently on the planet. It's fine that you don't like them, but for hell's sake man, you don't have to be such an ass about it.

trench 09-03-2003 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by Panopticon
I think Dave Matthews Band is the most overrated band of all time. Certainly they are the most overrated band today, in my opinion. Their music just isn't good. Dave Matthews can't sing worth a shit, either. The biggest argument I hear about them is the fact that they have like Saxophones and Violins and shit...who cares? It still doesn't sound good. I applaud them for actually trying to be different with all sorts of instruments, but they simply don't pull it off. It sounds like trash.
Could't have said it better.

Underrated: Iced Earth

Acme-143 09-03-2003 09:39 PM

Look, I think it is downright funny that everyone can name someone who is "over-rated" and not present a clear or concise argument, much less spell anything when they are trashing some band. But then when someone responds by trashing a band they like, they freak out, bitching and whining about "How dare you not like them, they're freaking awesome".

If you don't like something, don't listen to it. You can. It's pretty simple, just turn off the radio, put in a CD, and quit crying. Pretty much I think it is childish to bash something because you don't like it. People are entitiled to their opinions, and fuck off if you can't accept their right to have them. You may think they are wrong, but you are no more right just because you can stream a bunch of fickle excuses why you don't like them.

Oh and that goes for Homophobes, Rascists, mindless "patriots" who say Islamic Muslims are "stupid becuase they bombed us and they should all pay", and religious zealots who do the same type of bashing with no reason on pagans. (<---I have heard this so many times it makes me sick. Pagans literaly means "non-christian". The Christian Churches make them out to be devil worshipers. In reality, Muslims,Hindus, Budhists, Athiests, and Agnostics are all pagans, just to name a few)

(Sorry for the rant, just being HONEST)

Exodus 09-03-2003 09:42 PM

I know im gonna get slammed for this.. but Pink Floyd never interested me at all. RATM either.

Averett 09-04-2003 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by modest
overrated = Dashboard Confessionals

Should at least get the name right. Take off the "s" ;)

I'll defend Dashboard to the death. But that's just me. To each their own! It would be a damn boring world if everyone liked the same music.

Overrated for me would be Radiohead. I liked Creep and Fake Plastic Trees, but then I realized that it's all whiny crap. I don't get it.... Why is it so good?

Sleepyjack 09-04-2003 07:38 AM

It seems you can't win with all this overated stuff. How can you quantify the quality of a band anyway?
Certainally not by the number os albums sales!
Also in some cases, if a band is well know and respected and you don't like them, does that make them overated?

Overated has become as frivilous term as sell out. What and how does it matter?

I pretty much agree with what Acme-143 said. Ha i just noticed the post then :p
Good job Acme :D

bulakbol master 09-04-2003 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cybermike

At the Drive-In

Die plz :|

Just fucking with you. But seriously to put At the Drive-In up there with All-American Rejects makes me :confused:

Overrated would be:
- Metallica from Load onwards [though i'm not exactly sure anyone really feels for the words "i'm madlly in anger with you". wtf??]

- AFI's new album [the fact that it's being played on MTV makes me shudder and weep]; I honestly enjoyed the older stuff.

- Any "punk" being played on MTV and most mainstream radio nowadays. But then again why should I give a fuck, if the kids like it, then they like it -- their loss ;)

mister_me 09-04-2003 09:00 AM

garth brooks

Cowman 09-04-2003 12:46 PM

Didn't read all of the replies but..Dave matthews band, way overrated...pearl jam..way overrated...nirvana..way overrated

=p

Shpoop 09-04-2003 03:45 PM

ok i cant say he's 'bad', but i CANNOT stand Dave Matthew's Band. Its not that i cant stand their style or music or lyrics, i think they are all good, but i just think he has a really BAD voice.... and im the only person ive found who thinks this..

JohnnyRock 09-05-2003 08:20 AM

The Who
The Beatles [great songwriters...not great musicians]
Nirvana
radiohead
everescence [sp]
R.E.M
Dave Matthews Band

DownwardSpiral 09-05-2003 05:32 PM

The Beatles are by far the most overrated band anyone ever mentions.

Asshole Lover 09-05-2003 05:58 PM

Rolling Stones = most overrated

Beatles = most underrated

Cowman 09-05-2003 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shpoop
ok i cant say he's 'bad', but i CANNOT stand Dave Matthew's Band. Its not that i cant stand their style or music or lyrics, i think they are all good, but i just think he has a really BAD voice.... and im the only person ive found who thinks this..
I don't mind his voice, but what I find really annoying is the millions of teeny-bopper fans he has chasing after him thinking they're educated because they listen to something other then their usual dosage of pop.

Kaos 09-05-2003 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jadey
I know I'm gonna get flak over this, but I've never been able to get into 2 bands that are generally considered "greats". Both The Rolling Stones and Aerosmith just don't do it for me. I like a few songs from each band, but I just don't see what it is about them? I still respect them for sticking around soo long, but i can't get into the music.

I have to almost fully agree with you...neither band "does it for me" either.

But I can't respect them for sticking around so long...Aerosmith needed to take a permanent vacaction after releasing Permanent Vacation. Everything after that album sound the same.

I think Kid Rock is way overrated...and so is the White Stripes. In fact I can't stand either of them.

Kaos 09-05-2003 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cowman
Didn't read all of the replies but..Dave matthews band, way overrated...pearl jam..way overrated...nirvana..way overrated

=p

Yes, yes and fuck yes. Nirvana had 4 albums. 1 was a huge hit (Nevermind). No one ever heard of Bleach, because well, it sucked and I can see why they didn't get mainstream popularity from it.

Then Insesticide came out and was not very popular. Then they had another hit (not as good as Nevermind) with In Utero. Then Kurt killed himself.

So basically, Nirvana had 1 great album, one good album and 2 that were garbage.

I can't see how a band with only 50% success (2 out of 4) on albums can be considered so "great" :confused:

filtherton 09-06-2003 12:48 AM

How can the ratings even matter? I think we can all agree, or atleast i can agree with myself, that the morons have the monopoly on the consumption of music in this country. J-LO IS RICH... FROM HER MUSIC CAREER... HOW? This could only happen if someone organized a giant underground collective of morons to support financially what will amount to Paula Abdul for a new generation. Have you lost faith in humaity yet?


It is really about the immortal Wham!/George Micheal teamup. A little song called "Careless Whispers"
Way Underrated!

phlox 09-06-2003 03:30 PM

i'd say the white stripes new album is way overrated and their older material underrated. other overrated bands? oh, i could go on and on...creed makes me feel violent. you're not jesus! you're just not! nirvana too, although the unplugged cd is perfect for listening to when you're taking a bath and feeling sorry for yourself...

wally 09-06-2003 05:09 PM

I agree Creed is overrated. I used to be a big fan, but when everyone jumped on the bandwagon, I grew tired of them.

student 09-08-2003 05:51 AM

to start off...about 60%(thats a pretty conservative estimate) of americans and people in general are stupid. they hear songs from bands like creed and godsmack and whatever else the popular radio stations are playing and buy their cds. they like the music because it fits the mold, no longer than 3 minutes, 2 chorus solo, build up, chorus end. they dont really listen to what i consider to be good bands because it takes work to find them. im not trying to be some pretentious dude who only listens to unsigned band or bands on indie labels but that is most often the good bands are. their songs cant be played on the radio, they dont fit. listen to the mars volta cd, deloused in the comatorium and try to find a song that could be played on the radio. and the bands that do get played on the radio, are in my opinion probably created by the record companies because i just cant see how creed could have gotten signed by playing local shows.

lions20 09-08-2003 06:53 AM

I think all rap/hip hop is overrated.

DownwardSpiral 09-09-2003 04:08 PM

Mainstream rap is overrated. So are the Beatles. But I don't see how some of you can say Tool, Pearl Jam and Nirvana are overrated. Enlighten me.

Xiangsu 09-09-2003 05:29 PM

This post should be asking what bands do you just dont like. Because no one can really say that the Beatles are overrated and tell the truth at the same time. They have influenced the very foundation of rock music as we know it. So whether or not there music sounds good to us now they have influenced the music we loved. I would say System of a down is overrated.

filtherton 09-10-2003 05:50 PM

Tool could be called overrated just because most of their fans put them on such a high pedestal that they have to be overrated, just cause they're rated so high.
I think that nirvana is overrated for the simple fact that if kurt cobain hadn't painted the wall red, he and nirvana would probably only be mentioned in the same breath as soundgarden and dirty flannel.
As far as pearl jam goes, they're overrated just because eddie vedder(ar?) is such a complete tool.


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