Sorry Dr.Who,attributed your quote to tinfoil. Still agree though.

I used to like them and ya, Naveed was pretty good. I have seen them live a few times and man, it was a boring show. It was exactly the same as the cd only a bit louder. They don't move either. Gah. I could have gotten the same effect by listening to the discs really loud.

uh lord. yes U2 sucks.

bono, PLEASE retire. Sting too.

-slap-

-Mudde of Pud is way over rated.
-Coldplay.. I just dont understand this dude...
-Tatu.. bounces head in sequence with lesbian boobies...
-Ja rule.. He hasn't released a single..ever? he doesn't have enough original material so he has to feature j-ho and ashanti to get the song completed.
-50cent... yah.. umm.. this dudes first single was about rolling in dubs.. he couldn't afford no fuckin dubs, much less a benz.. oh yah... He got shot in the face so he'd Ghetto.. Wish it was a little to the left so he could be real gangsta!
-P.O.D... I thought they should have died and been buried in the same pit as creed..
-Anything new from any band that had a hit single in the 80s or before. (old stuff isnt overrated..)
-Any of the bands listed below suck because ** I ** can't tell them apart:
Alkaline Trio
American Hi-Fi
At the Drive-In
All-American Rejects
Ataris
A.F.I
and thats just the "A's"
To save yourself from reading the WHOLE list why dont we just say "mainstream indie punk" music sucks.

/me builds a bullet proof, fire proof wall around himself..

Now that's funny.Even funnier is that I've never heard of one of those bands.But what do I know?;)

Ahahaha, Sting, you should have never gone out on your own, you tantric sex having, rainforest saving, painful to listen to without Stewart and Andy, egomaniac.


sorry... love The Police, hate Sting

Go to a Tool concert and tell me they are overrated... Maynard has an amazing voice, Danny is one best drummers out there, no one is as fast as he is. And Adam has his own muted guitar style that he came up with in lateralus that complements Maynard perfectly. It's easy to say they are overrated when you aren't paying attention to the lyrics and just the powerchords...

Almost everything mainstream except a few bands these days are overrated, most of the best music I've heard are from bands/artists who are relatively unknown. I remember seeing Intepol at a club in NY when no one even knew who they were :o

This statement is completely, 100% true.

guys........ i love tool.... but can you (and i too) discuss it on another thread?

OK now.Time for a few more.

Smashing Pumpkins
Nirvana
Michael Jackson
Leonard Cohen
Oasis(quite possible the worst band ever)
Tim McGraw
Kid Rock
Any winners at award shows that begin their speech with,.."First of all,I'd like to thank God",..Don't thank God! Thank the music industry that produces non-talented hacks for the sake of the almighty dollar.

Godsmack is the most overrated band right now. Sully Erna should die and I mean that. He's a fucking tool.

Creed is overrated as well. Scott Stapp... Grr...

I try not to pay attention to "popular" music via television or radio. If everyone researched their music before buying it, I think "popular" music would be a little more tolerable.

Go to www.allmusic.com and read about your favorite band. They'll suggest a million other bands to listen to and you'd be surprised how good the site is. Very comprehensive.

Thanks a lot.Lot's of history.Checked a few things and is quite accurate.Mind you,it's just the facts but that's good enough.What a lot of work to put that together.Thanks again

I've discovered so much stuff great stuff because of Allmusic's "Followers" and "Influenced by" links.

Forgot one.

R.E.M.

TOOL is one of the most original bands ever.

Now those that suck:

ja rule, j-lo, creed, puddle of shit(uh... i mean mudd), linkin park, blink 182, avril, good charlotte, new found glory, 50 cent, evanescence (i.e. linkin park with girl on vocals), dmb, simple plan, afi, the vines, the hives, the white stripes, the assholes, queens of the stone age, rhcp (sell outs), korn, limp bizkit, chevelle, and any other nü metal.

when Linkin Park first came oout I avoided
them like the plague, figuring another agnsty pop band done hard.

but they've shocked me.. they are awesome, especially for this day and age. they play instruments rather well, tle lead vocalist has a amazing voice and its [b]strong[/], the other guy (the rapper) is a true poet and does great.

even the lyrics are good.



i'm totally for getting rid of a bunch of bands... pretty much any "hard/metal" group that look like n'sync in bad clothes or rap where everybody has their blingbling!

fucking faking lying bastards.

Ok, I've been reading through this thread and I'd like to throw in my $.02. I've seen a number of posts that mention the Beatles as a band that the individual dislikes. I've also seen the Doors, the Dead, CCR, the'Stones and a couple of other bands from "MY" generation. Now it's my turn; I haven't heard a band in the last 10 years that I considered innovative enough to waste my money on; all the old bands you folks have mentioned were at least that; innovative. I'm no huge Beatles fan, I never liked the Rolling Stones, The Grateful Dead had a few tunes I liked, I DO like the Doors, CCR was red-neck rock; I'm not defending the bands, but at least they were breaking new ground- the new stuff I've heard recently just plain stinks; lousy vocals, weak playing and inane lyrics. And as far as Zepplin goes, EVERY "metal" band since the first Zepplin album are Zepplin wanna-be's. Led Zepplin was a revelation; NO ONE had ever sounded like that; of course, at the time, there were folks that said that Zepplin was great in the studio, but they couldn't play their stuff live, well that theory got shot in the ass real quick; Zepplin was as good live as they were on vinyl. I really feel sorry for music lovers today; there's nothing new under the sun, and as long as you guys keep buying second-rate crap, there won't be; don't support musicians who just go through the motions, demand innovation.

though i agree with most of what was said here, i've got 2 problems with it:

1) if you demand innovation only, then you're missing out on an artist/band who "perfects" a genre. if i decided that hendrix was all the rock/blues that i needed, i'd have never listened to stevie ray vaughan. if i stopped at zeppelin, i'd have never picked up on aerosmith, guns n' roses, pearl jam, STP, etc.
2) there is plenty of innovation to find in the past decade, it just may not be fit to your palate. if tool, system of a down, etc aren't creative/innovative, then i don't know what is

Bang on and thank you for that. If people only knew the value of talent.

I'd also like to mention that I'm sure that there was just as much second rate crap back then as there is today. Every innovative band gets copied badly until the next big thing comes along, which gets copied and so on. There may be a ton of crap on the radio today, but if you know where to look, there's a ton of innovation in today's music.

There's always Screamo ;)

But seriously, whoever said that Led Zep were overrated are fools. Without them a hell of a lot of decent bands wouldn't exist today.

Bands I think are overrated:
Smashing Pumpkins (can't see why amybody can listen to them, bores me to death, and his voice annoys me)
Zwan (another one exactly like Smashing Pumpkins, sucks)
White Stripes because they're complete crap live and they just don't play instruments very well at all.
Avril Lavigne, she should die.
RHCP because BTW sucks so much it makes me ears bleed.
Foo Fighters, they have a couple of good songs on each album and the rest are completely mediocre.
RATM, Im fed up of hearing Zack De La Rocha whining about how blacks are mistreated and all the political crap, the music is great, his voice pisses me off now.
Audioslave, It's just Rage but with crapper vocals.
Guns N Roses, Sweet Child O Mine is the only tolerable song, the rest annoy me and Axel's voice makes me want to cry.
Incubus, I can name about 3 songs I like by then, the rest are complete crap.

I could go on for ages tbh but I won't

And to everybody who said that Pink Floyd, Metallica and Tool are overrated, you are also fools :p

the smashing pumpkins and ZWAN sound about as much alike as Metallica and Mariah Carey.

if you've heard the radio stuff, then I'd pretty much agree; but their musicmusic (ie cds, concerts) are vaslty different.

I meant the same comments about them sucking ;). Not about how they sound.

50 cent. He is not the next Tupac and if I have to hear "bottle full of bub" one more time I am going to shoot myself in the head. (which means I will likely be dead within 15 minutes).

Okay I know this isn't really a "rant" thread but I swear a lot of you have to check your heads? I know you are wondering what overrated really is but I think that means are considered better in any such manner than what they really are. Well whoever the hell said Jimi Hendrix is overrated...know your history. People...I'm not that old (born in 80's) but you should know about how things were going. Jimi Hendrix brought a new sound with an electric guitar that kicks most modern day guitarists asses. Secondly, I don't particularily like The Beatles either but I don't deny their influence either. Think of it this way, how many Beatles songs have you heard in just regular pop culture occurences...and the fact that we are still talking about them and how the whole damn world mourned when John Lennon died...that to me is not overrated. Third...Michael Jackson. I agree he is a freak now. But in his heyday he was the goddamn king of pop. Besides the fact that he made more money in one album than most bands can dream about...he really did innovate music videos and brought pop music ideas and sounds.

Sorry...I'm so damn tired and pissed for some reason so I had to vent. As I said before I was born in the 80's so therefore I don't think you can really say how much cultural influence bands have had but from what I've heard from peers and "elders"....believe me...bands like The Beatles were and still are a phenomenon that rocked many a persons balls!!!

Do agree with bob about 50 cent though. People are hailing him as the next coming of rap christ but from what I've heard he is hardly rapping.

Dillinger Escape Plan is way overrated. It's like they took these guys into a room and said "play something completely different at the same time." Everyone acts like it's genius.

Where to begin? I'd have a list ten miles long. I won't even try. Mainstream music is overrated - it appeals to the masses, because it is easy to understand, often without substance and purely money driven, resulting in heavy creative restrictions.

overrated bands:

what korn has become
what silverchair has become
what incubus has become
zwan
audioslave

The Who
The Doors
Sheryl Crow

I think Sheryl Crow is hot, but I hate every single song she's ever done.

I will preceed this by saying that I love Punk and that I am a punk,but I can't F-n stand the sex pistols. I don't care if they were some of the origionals in the movement. Lots of origionals suck. I appreciate their message and their tenacity, but I hate their music.

Alot of the bands being spotted as over rated have been playing or getting airplay longer than many of you have been alive.

Sure YOU may not like them. But at the Time, Hendrix, the Beatles , the Stones, Joplin were breaking new ground.

I can't name 3 joplin songs but I know her whole fucking story and that right there says something about the staying power and writing credibility of someone who died before I was born. cThe only thing bad I can really say about the older musicians is that many of their songs are dated.

There is no way to compare Tool to Hendrix, two different eras, two structures. It's like comparing gonzo porn to the hair muff porn of the 70's? Really nothing alike.

Personally I grew up listening to punk, so don't think I'm some aging hippy defending my music, but all that crap they call "punk" now is mundane dribble. Their all fuckin over rated.


And as for the White Stripes.


When a guy and a girl... a girl who can't even play the fuckin drums..... can put a stamp on my brain for months, record a million dollar record on a mere 8,000, take rock wayyyy back down to it's roots AND still hold their own against a barage of MTV clones....


well, that is nothing to balk at, there is no way they are over rated. Sure their sound is not for everyone, especially in todays over saturated techno pop drivel dance core market. But the white stripes were not created for your listening soda selling merchandising pleasure. They just play the fuckin music.


I can't go on... getting flustered....

GSRIDER

How right you are about the Stripes.. They aren't my favourite band by any stretch of the imagination, but it was something new at the time, something fairly original. It wasn't they same old crap that was being churned out hourly by the media monopolies. It was basic and raw and damn catchy.

i think tool is overrated. people worship tool because they're a better than average nu-metal band that has some credibility.

if you can't tell the difference between at the drive-in and the rest of this drivel, then maybe you're not the best person to decide what sucks or not.

"
* The Doors. Mediocre music, really bad lyrics. Jim Morrison's "wild" persona was already being done far more intensely by a young Iggy Pop. People have been influenced by Morrison's vocal style, I guess, e.g. Glenn Danzig, but Danzig made it a whole lot more fun (in the Misfits, at least).

Then there's Led Zeppelin. I loathe Led Zeppelin, but they've influenced a ton of bands I like.

Tool is pretty good."

Ahahhahahahahahahah
Let me just say that you my friend are a moron!
I don't hate you though because you obviously know not what you say. If you had been educated in music or taste in general, i would then be mad. but i'm sure you haven't so were still friends.

All I have to say for this topic now is whoever says Hendrix is overrated should be slapped!!!

My thoughts exactly

Coldplay. Fucking Coldplay. Two good songs does not make you great.

I say fuck 'em. Right in the ear.

part of the problem is that every critic hack wants to become the person who discovered so and so or wishes to attribute to them something that the band never aspired to.

i love music with all my heart and yet i've never had a poster on my wall, nor paid more than 20$ to see a show. to me bands are just entertainers. if i want philosophy or poetry i'll go to the professionals. i love my local taco chef as much as most bands.

here are a few bands that may or may not be over rated, but i never understood why so many liked them or they had such a great "insider" reputation.

Fugazi (and i love minor threat)
Husker Du
Rush (damn they suck)
Chilli Peppers (like fishbone better)
Grateful Dead (when the audience and the area around the concert are more interesting than your music you're in trouble.)
U2 (1 good album and 1 okay album and then...)
Snoop Dogg (give me tribe called quest, or public enemy any day)
Wire Train
Clapton

2 cents

dt

just a few i know i'll think of more later.

the guy who said dillinger escape plan is overrated.... i dunno, i gotta disagree... that is one hell of a talented band.

I said it, and you my friend are overrated for calling me overrated when I said Dillinger was overrated, which they are.