WhoaitsZ

What are some bands or certain cds you hear so much about and think 'huh? they aren't that great...'

I'm a huge White/Rob Zombie fan but I just never can get into "..Devil Music.." much. it just sounds.... awful.

ok/ no attacking me.... The Beetles. not just cuz i'm young. i just can't stand 80% of what I've heard by them.

remember "The Hives"? those guys who looked like they were having a seizure and an orgasm at the same time? they.. suucked


hmmmmmmm.

whatcha think?

ps: please don't be too rude. these bands are some folks' children

focalevo

The first to come to mind is that evenesence (?who cares how it's spelled?) song that EVERY friggin' radio station is playing constantly!! Sorry, I just don't get what the fuss is about.

A recent CD, the new Disturbed 'Believe' CD was a huge disapointment to me. I really liked the first one, then they completely went comercial on me. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a band growing with each new disc, but what the hell happened to these guys?? Korn is a band that has slowly grown, but still kicks major ass with each new song/CD.

Zombie has gone the route of Disturbed, the old stuff is really good, then it's like Wal-Mart called and gave him pointers for his new stuff.

nuff ranting for now.

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Jadey

I know I'm gonna get flak over this, but I've never been able to get into 2 bands that are generally considered "greats". Both The Rolling Stones and Aerosmith just don't do it for me. I like a few songs from each band, but I just don't see what it is about them? I still respect them for sticking around soo long, but i can't get into the music.

Another one is Def Leppard. I think they are god-awful.

Now, I'm a HUUUGE Pink Floyd fan and there are a lot of people that don't like them even though I think they are one of the best ever. Note, I don't think they are the best even though they are my favorite, I'm intelligent enough to realize that mass appeal is a big factor in determining the popularity of a band. So in that way I respect the bands I don;t like, but I still look for the special something that everyone supposedly sees that I don't.

Tom Thumb

I think The White Stripes are overrated. Good, for sure, but not the saviours of rock.

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BulletBob

I'll second The White Strips being overrated but by far the most overrated band ever...

TOOL

I don't understand, and believe me I've tried. What's so special about them? They're just another run of the mill band.

Mr.Deflok

BulletBob, I'm gonna give you two hours to take that back... take it back BulletBob, take...it....back....


I have to say any punk band that comes out these days and definately Avril Lavigne, totally fake and hasn't even got a good voice. There are a lot of New Zealand bands that don't even deserve to own an instrument but you guys would've never heard of them

Conclamo Ludus

Beatles - overrated
Nickelback - overrated
Metallica - overrated
Creed - was overrated, people are starting to figure that out.
Queens of the stone Age - overrated
Pearl Jam - overrated
Tom Waits - overrated

Some of them decent and even good, but still overrated.

I have to disagree with the Rolling Stones being overrated. They didn't invent Blues/Rock but they took it to some amazing levels. I didn't think so until this year when I started to pick up on them. I used to really dislike them. Aerosmith, overrated except for Janies Got A Gun. I think that song is underrated.

I enjoy the Hives and the Whitestripes but I would agree that they've been hyped way too much. Its good rock but they aren't groundbreakers. They seem more of a throwback to me.

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gibber71

Maybe because I'm Canadian and it hear it hourly almost,but I have to say Nickleback and The Tragically Hip. Oh ,..man,.. when I refer to the Tragically Hip as the Tragically Shit,I think some people are ready to kill me.Being not far from their home town, it is something to be expected.

fuelmyfire

tom waits??

are you serious?

BulletBob

Oh, thought of another one. I'm a big fan of this band but recently I've came to the conclusion that they are WAY overrated. Nirvana is probably the most over rated band in history. If you think about the whole thing, they had one big hit in SLTS. They weren't one hit wonders because Come As You Are and Lithium were also popular but they didn't even have to best album of the 90's (Blood Sugar Sex Magik was much better). I guess the thing that bothers me most about Nirvana though is that the whole obsession with the band is only because Kurt Cobain decorated the wall with his inner thoughts. Had he not shot himself, they wouldn't be any more important musically than Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, or any other "grunge" band. But I'm still not taking the TOOL comment back.

Xiphias

Linkin Park are in my opinion the most overrated pieces of shite the world has ever seen. They're in the same league as those fake pop star bands. Horrible band.

I agree, that band evenesence are bad. Such posers.

rideough

Don't say that about the Hip man, that's not nice

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Phish
Grateful Dead
Rolling Stones

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Opiate

im going to have to agree with Mr.Deflok here.....i think u should have a good long think about taking that tool statement back....

in regards to overrated bands: white stripes and metallica - both are good bands granted, but dont deserve the hype theyve been given imho.

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gibber71

I know,I know,..must admit,I do like a few of their songs,but have a hard time getting by Gord Downies voice,...Coura,.a,.a,.a,.a,.a,.age.

RatherThanWords

I can agree with many of you, but I'm surprised that someone actually said Phish. Now, I'm not a big fan of their music, but how many other bands do you know can play a 3 hour set, go play somewhere else and not repeat a single song. In fact, they have been known to go and play 5 nights and not repeat a single song. I think that's pretty amazing.

Tool - Not Overrated, because nobody that I know even rates them.

The Hives and the White Stripes - Like Them But overrated

Avril - So overrated she needs to die

Good Charlotte - Overrated and overcommercialized.

Scipio

Songs that "do it" for me:

DMB - The Stone
Nirvana - Drain You
RHCP - Parallel Universe
Rage - Battle of LA (the album)
Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil

and

Jay-Z - Big Pimpin (gotta love it)

Overrated Groups:

Creed (at one time)
Radiohead - (I love Radiohead, but every time they come out with an album, Spin has some
cover story like "radiohead saves rock," "radiohead=best band ever," etc.)
Metallica
Guns n' Roses (November Rain my ass)
Weezer

and, something that annoys me:

Any band with a "hot new single" off of their album that came out 10 months ago.

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WhoaitsZ

okay. one rule is changed. if you put down TOOL you die!!!!!!!!!!

just kidding

sigh

the reason i'm a TOOL fool (sorry) is http://toolshed.down.net/lyrics/
the Lyrics are so amazing, especially Aenima and Lateralus. i thought they were way over rated too. but I got Lavteralus from a friend and i listened to it a time or two then one day its like i hit a swircth and got it. the line 'this body holding me reminds me of my own mortality, embrace this moment, remember we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion". this line gives me chills to this day. if you don't like em cool but give em one or two thorough listens. one other thing is I respect honesty. Maynard makes no bones or trickery with his words. he's honest, brutal to his core, but honest.
PS: i do, however, despise their last videos off of Lateralus. they are dumb.


oh and i can't stand Aerosmith. they had about three rememberable songs.

tinfoil

Putting down Tool should be an instant suspension from the board

The Hip is overrated? Man, I didn't know they even rated outside of Canada. I am not a big fan of some of their newer stuff, but it is nice to listen to their older stuff once in awhile.

The new Met-Trend-ica is highly overrated as well.

How about underrated bands?

Gandharvas. Grab a song called First Day of Spring. Then listen again. They are a local band that got a little shot in the spotlight with 'Downtime'. Eels is cool as well, though I have yet to hear their latest.

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Opiate

now everyone knows where i got my sig from

ive another to add here. Red Hot Chilli Peppers. sure they are allright, but every damn song sounds the same! listening to stuff from blood sugar sex magic is exactly the same as any of thier new stuff. i feel as though their music hasnt progressed at all and dont see what is so great about them.

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rockzilla

I'll jump on board with the White Stripes being overrated, they're alright, but anytime the press hypes a band as the saviours of rock, you're being set up for a big fall (unless you happen to be The Strokes). As for the Hip, I don't know about being overrated, but they've done nothing but go downhill since 'New Orleans is Sinking' which was on their second album.

Oh yeah, and Limp Bizkit, wayyy overrated, it seems to be catching up with them though.

As for underrated, Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, catchy, intelligent hip hop that isn't about gold chains, bitches or guns.

gibber71

I've got one more.And again since I'm in the great white north, I'll pick on my fellow citizens.'Sam Roberts.' This guy is supposed to be the next big thing,..fuck,..I saw him about 6 months ago,and really, it isn't in my nature to say things like this,but my band makes his band look like fucking amateurs.For any of his fans,sorry. Thought he sucked bigtime.

rockzilla

Hahah, I can't believe I forgot him, just last week a friend and I shared our confusion about how he could be "the next big thing", but then again, all it takes is one catchy, accessible, radio friendly, cookie cutter pop-rock song. Damn, I wish I could write one of those, I'd be set for life.

Hal Incandenza

I got into a vicious argument with a friend about this. My philosophy was that there are popular, legendary bands that I really hate, but to be truly overrated, the band has to be wrongly held up as culturally significant by a large number of fans, critics, etc. In other words, the band is nowhere near as influential as everyone says they are. This is still way subjective, but it's not like we're going to achieve anything like real objectivity on the issue anyway. Plus it's fun to argue about.

So with that in mind, I propose two:

* The Doors. Mediocre music, really bad lyrics. Jim Morrison's "wild" persona was already being done far more intensely by a young Iggy Pop. People have been influenced by Morrison's vocal style, I guess, e.g. Glenn Danzig, but Danzig made it a whole lot more fun (in the Misfits, at least).

* Pavement. Did they ever do anything that Sonic Youth didn't do earlier and better?

I would add the Grateful Dead to the above, but they influenced a lot of music and pop culture--for the worse, I would say (the Dead were soulless --> Phish are soulless --> most jam bands are soulless), but to each his own, etc.

Then there's Led Zeppelin. I loathe Led Zeppelin, but they've influenced a ton of bands I like.

Tool is pretty good.

vermin

I really like Tool, but all I've heard by them is Undertow (which I have on cd; love that bass) and the song schism.

I used to be nuts about Led Zeppelin until I heard Johnny Winter, The Allman Brothers, BB King, Stevie Ray Vaughn, etc. playing real blues and I realized that Jimmy Page, while a good writer/producer, is not that exceptional a guitar player.

I think a lot of the old music needs to be judged (in terms of overratedness) on what else was around at the time. Take a look at the billboard charts from '65 - '71 and see what was popular. There was nothing like the Beatles before the Beatles, shit loads of copycats during and after they hit it big. The Doors was a unique band with a unique sound; very few copycats 'cause Morrison was fucking nuts. Hendrix was one of a kind.

To me the Greatful Dead are the most overrated band ever. I've tried to listen to their music and I just can't endure it.

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BulletBob

I'm astonished. Not because you said the Chili Peppers are underrated, I don't care about that part. "stuff from blood sugar sex magic is exactly the same as any of thier new stuff." Have you even listened to Californication/By The Way? If anything, people complain that the Peppers music have changed too much and that they lost their edge. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on Californication, as one or two of the songs such as Easily or Around The World do sound like BSSM era songs. But jesus, have you heard By The Way? There isn't a song on the album that sounds like BSSM. It's completely different. BSSM was an upbeat, rocking record. BTW is mellow and much more softer. I challenge you to name a song on By The Way that sounds like a Blood Sugar Sex Magik song. I'm also convinced that judging by your name you got pissed about the Tool comment, saw my avatar, and tried to provoke me. Nice try, but next time you might try acutally listening to an album before embarassing yourself.

Opiate

hah no i actually have californication on my shelf along with blood sugar sex magic and one hot minute. i dont mind their stuff but to me, in my honest oppinion, it all sounds the same. i find that listening to the cd's one after eachother it feels repeditive in the type of music they play. this is just my oppinion of them nothing more nothing less. to me, they arent as great as everyone makes them out to be.

and no, i didnt even realise your avatar was from the RHCP and wasnt having a dig at you. i do love my tool but im not the sort to have a go at someone because they have a different liking to myself. everyone is entitled to their oppinion.

no, i cant meet your challenge to name a song from BSSM that sounds like something from by the way. i dont have that cd (although i have heard most of the songs) and you are probably right in regards that they have changed heaps. but to me, one song is the same as the next, his voice, the style, to me just doesnt do anything apart from warranting a listen occasionally.

i apologise if ive offended, i didnt mean for it to be taken that way on your behalf.

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rogue49

Pearl Jam - grunge
Grateful Dead - ol' timers
Avril - newcommer
Puff Daddy - R&B (it's all about the bling-bling with him, even JLo figured that out)

gibber71

O.K,.I've picked on the Canadian men.Now it's the women's turn.

Alanis Morrisette
Celine Dion(just as overated as Barbra Striesand)
Chantal Krazviuk(sp*)--married to singer from Our Lady Peace

tinfoil

Man, you were on the right track until you mentioned Chantel. She's got just an amazing voice and she is one hell of a good piano player.

OLP, now that's overrated.

ShadowWraith

How can you call OLP overrated?! Albums like Naveed and Happiness is not a fish you can catch are amazing. I'll give you that their latest album Gravity isnt that great, but they have a ton of amazing older stuff like Clumsy, life, Theif, etc.,

LittleOralAnnie

Of all the bands I mention, most are because they were overplayed on the radio or they just suck monkey gnads..heh

Aerosmith
Alanis Morrisette
Avril Lavigne
Blink 182
Creed
CCR
The Doors
Jimi Hendrix
Janis Joplin
Tori Amos

Spektr

Linkin Park
Seether
Blink 182
Good Charlotte
Creed

They all suck. They all whine about stupid shit. I spit on them

alterEGO

Jimi Hendrix overrated? Hell he was one of the best guitarists in the world it saddens me that you name avril in the same list. Secondly pink floyd ain't overrated lots of people like em just because they're great. I get the feeling lots of people still don't know the definition of overrated.


trance music is overrated.

Hal Incandenza

That's the thing--what do we mean by overrated? What qualities constitute overratedness? Sure, even if we end up with a list to describe what we mean by "overrated," it'll still be pretty subjective, but it'll help us make better arguments. LIke my thing with the Grateful Dead--I hate, hate, hate the Grateful Dead, but they had a huge cultural impact, one that I may just be missing out on. But a) I doubt it--I hear nothing exciting in the Grateful Dead or in 90% of their offspring--and b) cultural impact isn't necessarily a good thing: Deadheads, Nazism, fundamentalism, er, those kids today, etc.

WhoaitsZ

...huh?

WhoaitsZ

hmm.. i meant to include both Led Zep and the doors. i fear crucifiction.

Dr.Who

Yeah, The White Stripes are Way over rated.

But the award goes to U2. Only two great album that you can listen from the first track to the last and you call that one of the best Rock group of all time??

I totally disagree for the Beatles, there were years before there time (1965 to 1970 that is)

Creed is not over rated, it's just crap!

gibber71

Well at least now I feel better since I got stiffed out of Ozzy tickets in Ottawa tonight--thank's for the laugh.Didn't want to go overboard but I agree.