Prince

I've been frequenting the Exhibition forum pretty much from the day I got access to it. I've even made a contribution or two, but have mostly commented on the work of others. I've a high regard for those who contribute to TE, and to those who don't contribute but comment in a respectful and intelligent fashion.

However, one thing has and continues to bother me. If you look at the thread listing, you're likely to notice that threads started by women span out to 5-10 pages, easily, while threads about male exhibitionism wither and die, scoring a couple or few pages of comments, at best. Is this because the majority of the viewers and spectators of TE are heterosexual male, checking out and commenting mainly on threads started by females; or is it because, as suggested on Seinfeld, the female body is a thing of beauty, a work of art, while the male body is simply utilitarian?

Possibly the biggest difference is the fact that women actively comment on women's threads, but men are less likely to compliment on the looks of another male. There are some exceptions to this, especially Art, whom does not seem to have an issue with what gender the person is.

I think this 'culture' creates an on-flowing tradition, where regular pale-assed stocky men are held back from expressing their exhibitionist side, because of what they've seen happen to the threads of their peers: a couple of "thanks for sharing" replies, and the thread drops off the first page to give room to what must be conceived as "real beauty".

But let's face it, you cannot tell people what they should like, what they should want to see. Besides, a compliment is only worth something if it is honest, right?

What it all boils down to, is what we think beauty is. Or what we experience beauty to be. Is there anything that we, as a society, outside of TE, can do to try and change the common perception of beauty? And furthermore, should we even try and change it, if we have no other justification for doing so than to even the scales?

I don't know if anyone but me views Tilted Exhibition to be the quiet social commentary that it really is. Those of us who have posted there, have we done it for ourselves, simply for ourselves, for the gratification of opening up and sharing a private part of ourselves (no pun intended), or do we also need the gratification of having others stroke our egos? In fact, how clear are we on when something is simply exhibitionism, and when it is amateur pornography? By this I mean, some pictures seem to be taken in a fashion and from an angle that seems intentionally to attempt to portray an individual in as flattering way as possible. But for what purpose?

I think that TE is a fabulous forum, and I appreciate the ideology behind it, but I do have to question whether we've collectively done all that we could do in order to have it continue to be something more than just the Amateur Titty Board.

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slimshaydee

In ancient greece, the male body was seen as a thing of beauty, and it was considered shameful to have a female body. But really I think the seinfel analogy remains true. All you have to do is look at the female body. The curviness is an art form.

I believe that men were created as the hunter type, who would gather the food, and do all the labour intesive activities, whereas it was the females job to reproduce, and raise the children. The female body was built for sex, so in order to make reproduction an appealing aspect, the female body was designed to be extremely sexual appealing. The male was built to be strong, so he could perform all the labour intensive activities.

Kostya

Yeah like childbirth...

hossified

that's an interesting theory on the female form. I think the majority of viewers in TE are males.....and really don't want or need to comment on another man's post of his wiener (amoung other things). Is this fair.....maybe not, but it is society's developed reaction to a hetero man seeing another hetero man naked! Myself I take a gander over at TE every once in a while.....and usually don't add any comments.....but I will look through every new post regardless of gender. Is it an amateur titty board.....quite possibly, but it's a way for members to give back to the board and other members. if you really want recognition for your exhibitionist posts as a male, try getting them up in the ladies lounge......

ShaniFaye

I love it when the guys comment on the other guys....it shows an openness that is great to see!!!

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quadro2000

The former. I don't mean to oversimplify, but I think that's really what it is.

I don't know the demographics, but I think it's been discussed before. I think that most of the TFP consists of heterosexual men. And most heterosexual men (as in society) don't like to look at other men naked. They like to look at women naked. Looking at men makes them uncomfortable. Maybe it's just not their thing. Maybe they mentally can't handle it. Who knows? But that's the bottom line as to why female threads get more responses than male threads. There are simply more men looking for tits on this website.

Look at the front forum page of TFP. As of right now, I see that the non-porn forum
getting the most views is Weaponry, with 23 viewing. Then look at the TB. 173 viewing. That's quite a jump. 3 are viewing The Full Monty. Personally, this says to me that more people are simply interested in seeing naked women than they are naked men.

I'm relatively comfortable looking at either men or women. I usually don't comment in Tilted Exhibition. I always feel a bit lecherous. And I almost never have commented in a male thread in TE. Why? Because society tells me if I tell a guy "hey, you look great," then damn, that must mean I'm gay. I hate that I haven't gotten past that, because honestly, I like to think of myself as a bit more enlightened. But I'm sure there are guys who DO check out the men threads, and don't respond for the same reason. Either way, I don't differentiate between men and women in terms of the artistic integrity of the naked body. Both are unbelievably beautiful and artistic.

I don't know. I don't mean to be pessimistic, but all you have to do is look at the way our society treats homosexuals to see the prevailing opinion on beauty. Or look at Paris Hilton. Or any other super-skinny model. How would you go about changing society? Thankfully, there are avenues (like TE) for us each to express our own personal opinions on beauty, where the opinion (I believe) is "come join us if you feel this way- if you don't, that's fine, just don't tell us how to think." I feel this is kind of the way TFP is in general, but it also works for a board like Off The Wayside. Everybody has a different perception of beauty, and a place like the TFP is a place to express that.

The reason people post in TE isn't cut and dry. The people that post there have many different reasons to post there. Go back and read Lurkette's amazing article in Tilted Magazine (found here) for an example on how one person's reason is very different from another's. But I think everybody's reasons are beautiful, if for no other reason because they're sharing with people who are somehow riding a line between strangers and family. They're taking a risk on some level or another when they click that "post" button, and gracing us with a very special side of themselves. I think that may be the one thing that unifies Tilted Exhibition.

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brianna

there is NOTHING inherently more beautiful about the female form -- it's called socialization people, our society has taught all of us to think of women as sexy and men as smart and powerful -- i could get into a large range of feminist issues here but since that would be a bit off topic i'll resist.

men: your bodies are beautiful too.

women: your minds are just as great as men's and being pretty is not that important.

Kid_Karysma

Brianna,

You are so right.

What we see as beautiful is not even a choice of our own. It's usually a choice of what we've been taught is beautiful.

It's like what we see as scary. I've grown up around dogs so I generally don't find them scary. However, I know many people that are very unfamiliar with dogs and find them downright frightening.

It's just how we are all raised.

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Dawson70

I have also wondered the same thing. But of course, my common sence told me the TE is mostly visited by males. However, I have made some comments on other mens pics, in a non sexual way, with mixed responses. I will comment on anything I see fit to comment on. I think ANYONE who is brave enough to show their "true self" on a forum site, deserves a round of applause and awarded the "Courage Badge" from the Great OZ. I hope more people indulge in this form of expression.

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Kazic

Yeah alot of guys and few girls. I sitill want to post some pics of myself though but my own vanity is stopping me for the very reason of wanting to hear comments. so I guess its a double edge sword. most guys wont want to see me and since its mostly guys who am I really posting for? me or them?

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braindamage351

It isn't that the female body is any more attractive than the male body. It's a societal thing. Guys don't really have to look good. We are brought up for work. Women spend most of their lives trying to look good to attract guys. Naturally the one that takes care if itself will look better. On top of that, beautiful women have always been put on a pedestal. Men, being the pursuers as opposed to the pursued tend to be judged by how good of a women he gets, as opposed to how good he himself looks.

*NOTE* The following is both IMO, and based on instincts as opposed to modern society.

Then if we look at the instinctual side of things, both men and women are looking for the perfect mate to raise their child. Of course, the man doesn't want to be present, but he doesn't have much of a choice anymore.

A good child-raising mother would: Be healthy, have a lot of milk, and have good genes.
A good child-raising man would: Be able to provide food and shelter, and have good genes.

While both prefer good genes, and an attractive body, the man has to provide food and shelter, which can be a difficult task, while the woman just has to take care of the child. Although that's a difficult thing to do, pretty much anyone can do it. So the man will take any girl with good genes and a healthy body, while the girl will look for the man with the best genes that can accomplish all of his jobs well. All women would be judged by is their looks, while men are judged by their jobs most importantly, and THEN their looks.

An ugly man can get a woman that is better looking than him by being able to provide food and shelter, so why bother trying to look good?

THGL

I have to agree with Brianna, too. We've been taught that male and female are "different", not only parts but what they can do.

I can't speak for the women, but we men are also taught not to look, admire, or comment on the male form (aside from bodybuilders for some reason).

I consider myself a "people watcher" and look forward to getting access to TE (if anyone would like to put in a good word for me, I'd appreciate it).

nowthen

i find it mildy amusing that the same people who will rip apart a frankly "perfect" specimen of the female form on the titty board will then fawn over *any* women in the exhibition board. Something about human nature there I guess - if the person is anonymous no harm done, but if it someone you "know" then you have to be nice.

Not a flame, just, something I have noticed.

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Flyguy

If I had access, I could tell ya, but I don't.

I'm not worthy.....

The Phenomenon

To me the female form is beautiful, while the male form is not.

I like the frail flowing softness of a woman, something that contradicts with a man's body. A man looks strong, and a woman does not. There is no bigger turn off for me than a woman with big muscles. When I look at a woman's body it should be shouting "OH SO SMOOOOTH!" at me. There is something about how fine her body looks that makes me feel that its precious and needs to be protected. I dunno.

Also I think there is a little homophobia involved -- some men are scared that if they like some other guy's body people would think they are gay.

AND could someone PLEASE tell me what you need to do to get into TE?

Prince

We'll let the applicable section of the TFP Policy and Guidelines speak for itself:

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The Phenomenon

Oh ok thanks.

Will I be getting a report card to show my mommy? :P

Frowning Budah

I admire anyone who has the courage to open themselves up to people like that. That has never been me. I do find womens bodies much more interesting than mens. I think mens bodies can be beautiful, but I require more from them to keep my interest. I will try to be more encouraging of the guys. Nah, who am I kidding. I still want to see the women.

MSD

I'd estimate that less than 10% of our members are female. I'd almost go as far as to say less than 5%.


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analog

Yeah, we're like 90% or more males here. That's a staggering percentage.

i'm sure 75% (or more) of that 90% can't even see the exhibition forum... so that's 22.5% of the total population (male) that even can look at it.

Figure maybe half of them ever click on anything male in the TE forum... that's 11%. On any post, it's maybe 10% of post - view ratio. 10% of that 11%... is 1.1%

So that means (very roughly) that about only 1% of the entire populace of the TFP posts on male threads in the TE forum. Figure we have maybe (and i'm being very generous here) 1500 actual, active users.

1% of that is 15. 15 people total. So, yeah, wonder no more. lol

How about we try and get that participation up a bit, hmm? *looking at people who don't comment on the guys in the TE forum*

SJS111567

I understand the point you're making here, and agree to an extent, but not completely. "Thin is beautiful" is crammed into your head from an early age. I however, find myself more attracted to women with fuller, rubenesque figures. I think Anna Nicole Smith was just as attractive when she was "heavy" as she is now, slimmed down again.

Prior to getting married, I dated women of all shapes and sizes. I found that I was enjoying my sexual experiences more with women who were full figured.

I'm just a newbie here, so I don't have access to TE, but I look forward to one day being able to make contributing posts there, as I have on other forums and boards.

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chickentribs

I find exhibition an interesting test of our own personal courage and demons. I also find it to be one of the very fascinating twists in this community that adds to the color of all the personalities here. (of course - since I also do not have access, my opinion means diddley.)

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Willravel

I've posted in the TE area. I (a male) posted a poem of sorts. Having never written for fun outside of school, I was curious about what people like in literature and poetry. I am still curious, seeing as I only recieved feedback from one person (thank you very much, amonkie). I'm not sure if my poem is good or not, and it's kinda moot now that i've seen that no one seems to have an opinion about it. Whether male or female, I agree that this is a great place for posting art. I just wish people would frequent and post on it more often so that we can see a larger scope of opinion and artwork.

Dane Bramage

I just got access to TE this week, and I must say that I'm just blown away. I know I haven't been around that long, but the community here just contiues to amaze and suprise me.

One of the things that I really like is the unisex threads like "Show your Butt". It's just fun to see EVERYONE'S butt, and that is one of the longer threads on that board. It's kinda a free for all and really gets people out to strut their stuff.

Granted, I would rather look at nice shapely tushies of the females. It is unfortunate that society has conditioned us men the way it has. There is absolutly nothing wrong with acknowldging beauty even in the same sex, but we have been taught that there is something wrong with us if we do notice how attractive that guy is. Sad, but very difficult to get away from 34 years of conditioning.

However, realizing this and using the 'anonymousness' of the forums to expand our minds is one of the great things that the internet and communities like this can give us. We are free to open ourselves to comment on someone guys 'unit' without the fear of ridicule from friends the next night at the pub.

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Rinndalir

Agree, and it says alot about our society as opposed to say ancient Greece where the male form was idolized.

Yeah so do I, my wife and I would love to contribute...

Suave

I have to ask: has Halx posted anything there? I keep hearing about his massive... ego, and this little TFP legend has piqued my curiosity.

rockstar

I always hear everyone talking about the Tilted Exhibition forum but cant seem to figure out how to get in to it. Can someone let me know what I need to do to have access to this forum.. Thnx

Ustwo

The titty board will have (er well had hehe) upwards of 80 viewing at a time.

The full monty goes days without a new responce and even longer without a new post. When there are new posts, many are of gay males. This is much to the annoyance of my wife.

I think there are a few thing at work here.

One 'beautiful' men are rarer then beautiful women, must of us guys are just 'average' guys.

Two, being a average hetero male what should I say to another average hetero male who wants to show us his pictures? Nice dick? Its not something I wish to look at, nor am I impressed by it, I have one as well .

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Phant84

i just cant wait until when and if i'm granted access. i have so many pictures that i would love to get other peoples opinions on. ah, well just have to wait and see.

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zappa

from zap`s point of view, all bodies are beautiful, the trick is in the confidence one exudes when showing it. Having not seen TE, i can only comment on real life as i have experienced it. Look out for further info if and when. Doesn`t matter male or female just be confident.................

tecoyah

Yes...he has, and the rumors are pretty much true (freakin' Horse)


The sentiments of the thread starter ring tru...in fact, I have decided to go to TE right now....and express my support of all who have the.....uh...fortitude to post there.

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JumpinJesus

I spent some time looking at the content of TE before I posted there. And even when I finally did, it wasn't to post photos of me, but of my wife. I have to admit that the people who post in TE have a lot of courage. But then, it also helps to know that the people who DO post replies there always do so with respect and friendliness. If I ever decide to post photos of myself, it will be because of this.

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Nude beaches are more fun

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raeanna74

I'm sorry if I come across as a Pinhead here. I wasn't going to say anything but I just can't resist. I do daycare. I know MANY people who can't and hate taking care of a child. Not just ANYONE can do it. I've seen so many who haven't the patience. Yeah just anyone can sit the kid in front of the TV and throw chips at them but I'm talking about REALLY caring for the kid. If you think ANYONE can do that then ANYONE can find food and shelter too.

Sorry if I'm being picky. In my chosen career I can't help but take notice when someone says it's a job that anyone can do. It isn't easy. Hubby's seen the work that goes into it and there are many jobs out there that can be easier, at least on some days.

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Memalvada

Honestly it makes me really uncomfortable to be looking at a male naked body. I am latin america, and as such, I've been raised in an extremely sexist society. I do go every once in a while to TE, and yes, I admit that pretty much 99% of the time I will only view threads started by our female members, and yes, I admit that I avoid pretty much any thread there that is started by a guy, and that I suspect has nudity in it. I have viewed some threads by men, but most of the time it has been a thread because he is exposing some newly-done type of body art,

I guess its a matter of open-mindedness, people in my society and culture are quite close-minded regarding that topic, and I believe it is wrong. Now that Im leaving my teens I realize that I have to be more open-minded, and tolerant in this world, even if it goes against of what I have been taught). Luckily for me, I have the tfp, where so many different people coexist peacefully, and I can learn new things and grow as a person).

I don't think I've ever made a comment on TE, even if I think the thread is particularly good, and well, reading this thread, I've seen this is wrong, because these people deserve a recognition for having the guts to post such private pics of themselves (and sometimes to give them recognition for their originality and creativity as well), and because one day, if I ever have the guts to do so myself, I would like for people to go and post some comments on my thread.

thanx.

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Cadwiz

It appears to me that TE is more for "the most personal art", as it isn't in the EZ. So, I don't look at it as a second Titty Board. Granted, some of the pictures could be posted there, but most have been creativly done. As an example: I like looking at Art's pictures, not because I like to see his "stuff", but they are more artistic than erotic for me. Go figure.

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Carno

I have no problems with the

Carno

Actually, I've been mulling over an idea

Psycho Dad

I greatly admire anyone who can stand up and say “this is me, this is my expression”. And I admire their strength as well. This goes not only for exhibitionism but for simply being confident enough to express their feelings openly as well. I’ve always felt that society in general and religion in particular have worked for centuries to contort what we would otherwise naturally do. My hat is off to those who are capable of growing beyond that because I feel that quite frankly I lack the courage to do what many of them can.