Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community  

Go Back   Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community > The Academy > Tilted Life


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-10-2010, 01:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
Banned
 
Zeraph's Avatar
 
Location: The Cosmos
Sigh...friend just got put in prison

On felony charges. No bail. For the worst kind of crime....child molestation. I've known him a long time. He's one of the nicest people around. What am I supposed to think?

I don't think he did it but FUCK!

edit: the story is that (he's a doc) and takes care of a special needs child. The kid likes it at his house more than his parents. So the parents (apparently) got jealous and made up (hopefully) fake charges.

FUCK!
Zeraph is offline  
Old 12-10-2010, 05:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
Insane
 
RogueGypsy's Avatar
 
Location: The Great NorthWet
That's messed up. If he's innocent, I hope they fry the parents. Accusations like this are unacceptable.
__________________
Methods, application and intensity of application vary by the individual. All legal wavers must be signed before 'treatment' begins. Self 'Medicating' is not recommend. However, if necessary, it is best to have an 'assistant' or 'soft landing zone' nearby. Any and all legal issues resulting from improperly applied techniques should be forwarded to: Dewy, Cheatum & Howe, Intercourse, PA 17534. Attn: Anonymous.
RogueGypsy is offline  
Old 12-10-2010, 06:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
Life's short, gotta hurry...
 
Grancey's Avatar
 
Location: land of pit vipers
Kids don't usually make up stuff like that. When accusations are made, kids go through expert questioning and interviewing. Just saying....
__________________
Quiet, mild-mannered souls might just turn out to be roaring lions of two-fisted cool.
Grancey is offline  
Old 12-10-2010, 09:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Location: My head.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grancey View Post
Kids don't usually make up stuff like that. ..
WTF?? Kids are story tellers. My niece cries EVERYTIME I ask her to get her shoes on. One time she heard my mom tell me not to yell at her (to her benefit, I was yelling, I freaked out because she climbed on the table and started jumping up and down) and that has been her go to story whenever I ask her to do something she doesn't want to do. I've had to move her up to severe punishments including standing in the corner facing the wall up to 5 whole minutes for lying. It's torture . Even when she lies remotely about something small I make sure she's punished for it.

Wait, what was my point? Oh right. Kids can be story tellers but they won't be able to fool a professional. When this kid is questioned by a child shrink then your friend will get justice. Weather or not it's in his favor, I don't know.
Xerxys is offline  
Old 12-11-2010, 02:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
Psycho
 
bagatelle's Avatar
 
Location: Europe
Oh, kids do tell stories.

Not so long ago there was a piece of news warning about a woman driving a red car and stalking kids!

The woman in question recognized herself in the story and contacted the police. She had seen a kid about 8-10 pulling off snow sticks beside the road - the sticks that will guide the snow plow drivers.

She had followed the kid to his home yard, stopped the car and given him a lecture. The boy then made up a story at home, father called the police and the press. School warned other kids of a possible stalker. Two more reports from concerned parents followed, their kids telling of a woman seen in a red car with silent man sitting at the back trying to lure kids in their car... There was no man at all.
bagatelle is offline  
Old 12-11-2010, 03:10 AM   #6 (permalink)
I'll be on the veranda, since you're on the cross.
 
monkeysugar's Avatar
 
Location: Rand McNally's friendliest small town in America. They must have strayed from the dodgy parts...
Hopefully he is legit and the trial finds out accordingly. Hopefully.

If not, and he's found guilty...well...he's pretty much fucked. I'd tell him to request protective custody, or get very familiar with the phrase: "I refuse my housing assignment." Beats the hell out of, at the very least, getting the ass-whupping of the century as soon as someone sees his paperwork, which WILL be demanded as soon as he gets to his...ahem...new living arrangements. This is of course, in the worst possible situation, and is not the result of some major misunderstanding.
__________________
I've got the love of my life and a job that I enjoy most of the time. Life is good.

Last edited by monkeysugar; 12-12-2010 at 02:53 AM..
monkeysugar is offline  
Old 12-11-2010, 08:35 AM   #7 (permalink)
Kick Ass Kunoichi
 
snowy's Avatar
 
Location: Oregon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xerxys View Post
WTF?? Kids are story tellers. My niece cries EVERYTIME I ask her to get her shoes on. One time she heard my mom tell me not to yell at her (to her benefit, I was yelling, I freaked out because she climbed on the table and started jumping up and down) and that has been her go to story whenever I ask her to do something she doesn't want to do. I've had to move her up to severe punishments including standing in the corner facing the wall up to 5 whole minutes for lying. It's torture . Even when she lies remotely about something small I make sure she's punished for it.

Wait, what was my point? Oh right. Kids can be story tellers but they won't be able to fool a professional. When this kid is questioned by a child shrink then your friend will get justice. Weather or not it's in his favor, I don't know.
As an aside, Xerx...you really really need to stop this. You're probably actually making things worse. There's a difference between disciplining a child appropriately and punishing them. Punishment is bad; over time, it will make your niece fear you, and it may even make her more of a liar in order to avoid the punishment she knows is coming. You need to ensure a child UNDERSTANDS why they are in trouble--you sit down and talk with them. "Hey, so you did A, why did you do A? Why don't we do A? What are the consequences of doing A?" Yes, you give time outs, but you make clear that a time out is meant as a period in which they can think about their choices, their actions, and the consequences. A time out should also be no longer than their age; beyond that and it really isn't doing you any good. It's just fostering resentment and not encouraging them to think about the problem.

As to the OP: I'm sorry, that's really tough, but your friend should have ensured he was allegation-proof in this situation. As someone who works with children professionally too, I can tell you that I make damn sure my ass is covered. If I have to be alone with a child to toilet them, I make sure the door is open and that another teacher knows I am taking that child to toilet them. There's no doubt that people are really allegation-happy these days, and it saddens me that I have to take precautions to protect myself, but your friend really should have realized the same things.
__________________
If I am not better, at least I am different. --Jean-Jacques Rousseau
snowy is offline  
Old 12-11-2010, 12:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Wes Mantooth's Avatar
 
Location: Tennessee
I don't understand, why was your friend taking the child to his house in the first place? I don't have the first clue about the legalities behind taking care of a special needs child or what the arrangement was with the parents but unless he was providing 24/7 care and/or given some kind of permission it doesn't seem like there should be any reason to bring the child to his house. It would be an open invitation for these kind of allegations to get tossed around I would think.

Anyway not saying he's guilty or anything but in cases like this isn't it common for care to be given at the parents house or some at some kind of 3rd party location?
__________________
“My god I must have missed it...its hell down here!”
Wes Mantooth is offline  
Old 12-11-2010, 04:54 PM   #9 (permalink)
Junkie
 
Location: My head.
Quote:
Originally Posted by snowy View Post
As an aside, Xerx...you really really need to stop this. You're probably actually making things worse. There's a difference between disciplining a child appropriately and punishing them. Punishment is bad; over time, it will make your niece fear you, and it may even make her more of a liar in order to avoid the punishment she knows is coming. You need to ensure a child UNDERSTANDS why they are in trouble--you sit down and talk with them. "Hey, so you did A, why did you do A? Why don't we do A? What are the consequences of doing A?" Yes, you give time outs, but you make clear that a time out is meant as a period in which they can think about their choices, their actions, and the consequences. A time out should also be no longer than their age; beyond that and it really isn't doing you any good. It's just fostering resentment and not encouraging them to think about the problem.
After the last two time outs, she doesn't lie to me. She still does to her mom and my mom too, but not me. She understands I take it seriously and it's the only thing I impress upon her. I expect kids to break things and hurt themselves. That's normal, so I only punish her for things she understands is wrong and probably shouldn't repeat and that includes lying.
Xerxys is offline  
Old 12-12-2010, 02:37 AM   #10 (permalink)
Psycho
 
bagatelle's Avatar
 
Location: Europe
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wes Mantooth View Post
I don't understand, why was your friend taking the child to his house in the first place? I don't have the first clue about the legalities behind taking care of a special needs child or what the arrangement was with the parents but unless he was providing 24/7 care and/or given some kind of permission it doesn't seem like there should be any reason to bring the child to his house. It would be an open invitation for these kind of allegations to get tossed around I would think.

Anyway not saying he's guilty or anything but in cases like this isn't it common for care to be given at the parents house or some at some kind of 3rd party location?
I know you expect thread starter to reply, but here's my thoughts:

My aunt has worked with special needs children and adults. Since her own children are already grown up, she sometimes has taken a teenage boy to her home to spend the weekend. I assume this is to give the parents a free weekend, I don't know about the family, but taking care of special needs children can be quite burdensome to parents and the best solution for them might be around someone familiar.
bagatelle is offline  
 

Tags
prison, put, sighfriend


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:20 AM.

Tilted Forum Project

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
© 2002-2012 Tilted Forum Project

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360