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Why do we refrigerate eggs?
Travelling through Mexico and Guatemala ive noticed they dont refrigerate eggs. They have them on shelves in the store. Ive been buying and eating the eggs and so far so good.
Then I remembered, they dont refrigerate eggs in France or Germany either, and probably not much of europe. So why do we refrigerate eggs in the states? |
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Location: US
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Well I know in europe they irradiate food to sterilize it, then it lasts much longer at room temp than unsterilized foods. The US doesn't (or didn't last I checked) do this because the general public freaks out.
It's kind of like when your mother tells you not to stand in front of the microwave because she wants to have grandchildren. The truth is the microwave might cook you, but your DNA will remain intact. It doesn't harm you that way. Same with irradiated foods. There is no residual effect, except the food has no living bacteria. That's it. Every redneck, conspiracy theorist and generally paranoid mom in america would freak the fuck out if their food got zapped, though. Anyways, that is my guess as to why you saw eggs on the shelf. Same with milk etc.
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When I visited China, the same question came up also. I still am not totally sure, but I do have a background in restaurant management and food safety.
My guess is that the eggs keep longer and are safer to eat when transported and kept refrigerated. Certain temperature ranges along with other factors can discourage bacterial growth. If you've got the extra cash and you get your food from long distances, refrigerate? Edit: Just to color in the edges, I'm sure the shopping behavior of these countries are different (Frequency and amount of purchase). Last edited by Randerolf; 11-24-2008 at 07:04 AM.. |
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Location: US
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You don't refrigerate eggs? See that's weird to me. They might be able to sit on the shelf for a while, but eggs go bad so easy that I wouldn't risk that. AFAIK, they are nowhere near sterile in the carton.
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I've been buying them off the self now for over a year and they sit in a wire basket hanging in my kitchen. I have no idea how long they've sat on the shelf. I eat a boiled egg with and apple and a can of V-8 every morning. So I go through a dozen in no more then two weeks. Been doing this for some time now and according to all my neighbors they've been doing this for most of their lives. Don't know about them but I'm certain the eggs have never made me ill.
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Location: Redneckville, NC
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USPH I think is the big reason. That and they last longer when they stay at cooler temperatures. If I remember my Servsafe (USPH food handling class), all dairy HAS to be refrigerated, but it's been a year and I could be wrong.
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I don't know how long to define a "while". It's subjective, both on my side and the eggs' side. -----Added 24/11/2008 at 10 : 57 : 49----- See in europe I believe they don't refrigerate dairy at all after the irradiation. They might to cool it off if they like it cold, but many places keep it on the shelf. It's supposed to last for weeks or maybe even months like this.
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Location: Oregon
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As for eggs, I don't know for sure, but I would guess it has something to do with our fear of contracting salmonella from said eggs (specifically salmonella enterica), despite the fact that the odds of contracting salmonella from eggs is very low (only 1 in every 30,000 is suspected to have salmonella).
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Location: US
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I don't know. I get something from free range eggs all the time, if I don't cook them. If my wife is making cake batter and I eat some with free range eggs, more often than not I get a little irritated later. Nothing bad, but enough to know something is off. With white eggs I never really had that problem.
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Location: Edge of the deep green sea
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The reason eggs have to be refrigerated in the US, is because of the commercial processing of the eggs. They are washed before being packaged.
An egg has what is called a "bloom" on it which is natures way of preserving the egg. If you wash the egg, you will remove the bloom and the egg contents will deteriorate very quickly. |
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Location: Oregon
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Also, salmonella won't cause you to get a little irritated. Salmonellosis, the infection from salmonella bacteria, will cause you to become best friends with the toilet for at least 24 hours. It's nothing like conventional diarrhea, and it comes out both ends. I'll never eat chicken tempura again, that's certain.
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Location: on the back, bitch
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Snowy's correct. People used to think that the brown eggs were somehow healthier, but the only difference between brown and white eggs is the breed of hen that lays them.
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They don't refrigerate eggs here either. It kind of freaked me out when I first saw it but I've adjusted.
As for milk in tetra paks... the milk that is shelf stable is UHT (ultra high temperature) milk. I don't like the taste of UHT milk so I always choose the fresh milk from the dairy case. That said, it's about a 50/50 split here between UHT and HTST pasteurized milk (compared to North America where it is almost 100% HTST). This is probably due to smaller refrigerators in most households (i.e. not as much space to store chilled milk). Quote:
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Location: Guatemala, Guatemala
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I'm Guatemalan, and we never ever refrigerate them unless you wash them after bringing them home. If an egg is exposed to water it goes bad really quick, otherwise, eggs do have a very long shelf life. I've found that cooking refrigerated eggs is harder and the flavor of it tends to change, but that's just me anyway...
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Location: Oregon
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I actually bought some UHT shelf-stable milk today for my pantry. It's going to be my back-up milk. The price was about the same as regular milk.
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Location: out west
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not just you. the trick to a great omlette is to let the eggs come to room temperature |
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Location: The Great White North
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We get eggs from a local farmer and they come in mmany colors. Sometimes it looks like we have an easter basket! I also learned you can tell how fresh an egg is by placing them on a bowl of water. The fresher they are the lower they are in the water. Boiled eggs peel easier when they aren't as fresh, so if they float but not to the surface they are perfect for boiling whereas if they are on the bottom, wait a few days.
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