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Old 06-16-2006, 10:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone ever used this herbal rememdy for treating bruised bones? I have heard it is used by Muay Thai practitioners but it enters your bloodstream and can have an adverse effect on your body?
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Old 06-17-2006, 04:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm completely un-knowledgeable on the subject, but...

What did you do to bruise your <a href="http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=105778">shin</a>?
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Old 06-17-2006, 04:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I havent bruised it yet but I am want to toughen my shins for fighting. I'm looking for a topical ointment to treat the shin with while I am conditioning it.
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Old 06-17-2006, 12:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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There's some info in the health and fitness section.

I use it when I have bruises. Hurts like a mofo when I have to massage it into a bruise, but the results are amazing.

As for using it to strengthen your shins, i'm not so sure that it does that.
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Old 06-17-2006, 12:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I havent heard that it strenghtens shins, but it lessens the recovery time between training sessions by healing the bruise quickly.

Have you heard anything about side effect of using it?
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Old 06-17-2006, 08:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't use it that often, so I haven't noticed any side effects. Nor have I heard about any negative side effects.
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Old 06-19-2006, 07:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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It's not going to strengthen shins, but it will make the process of strengthening shins less agonizing

You strengthen the shins by kicking things with them. Start small - padded kali sticks, then take the pads off and whack your shins with 'em. Eventually you'll work up to PVC pipe or wood dummies. Some guys I know just go out and kick oak trees. They're kinda hardcore

Trick is to rub the jao on after you get done kicking things - it'll help keep the bruising down.

There are a few caveats here. There are different levels of jao, and there are different manufacturers of jao. Like anything that's unregulated by the government, you can make anything and call it jao. I caught one "asian herbalist" making it out of soy sauce and coffee. Smells right, but doesn't do jack. Ask around and find where in your area you can get the real stuff or, if you're ambitious enough, you can find recipes for it and make it yourself.

The jao will not enter your bloodstream from rubbing it on bruises - it can only enter your bloodstream if you put it in a cut, which you do NOT want to do.

Jao works differently for different people. For me it works great. My wife sees little effect.

As long as you don't drink it or get it in a cut, the only side effect is that you'll smell really strange for a day or so after using it. Oh, and it will stain just about anything it touches, so use with caution.
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Old 06-19-2006, 07:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I have a giant batch made in... i think 1973 by my grandfather. Poootent. Supposedly the herbs used aid circulation and stimulate healing. I have heard of other mixtures that have 'toughening' properties, but I neither have the recipe, nor speak enough Chinese to get it out of an herbalist. I'm still trying to pry the family recipe out of my grandmother, but she's a tough nut to crack.

I would try to find an Iron Palm practicioner. You'd likely not get the recipe for many years, since I doubt it would be given freely, but the path to acquiring it would be interesting.

If it's in my bloodstream, it's not doing anything wierd that I can tell. I use it all the time. YMMV.
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