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Old 01-21-2004, 03:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Bong Creation

My jager loving friends and I decided to make a bong out of a jager bottle.

I have the bottle (about 8 of them) a glass drill bit, and a glass griding bit for a dremmel.

Also a slide, the shaft it goes into, and the rubber stopper..

Any hints or tips to offer?

and slide... front or side?

What kind of angle do you think is necesary for the slide?

I got the grinding bits to make the hole oval, and slanted as much as possible, but how much is absolutly necesary?

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Old 01-21-2004, 06:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know any of the specific answers - I'll just be the safety nut and stress how important it will be for you to wear eye protection and a good dust mask. The thought of glass slivers in the eye makes me shudder...
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Old 01-21-2004, 06:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
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use the dremel, i hope its the diamond burr bit. put the slide in as straight up as possible while still having room for the bowl. Alsom where did u get the slide?
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Old 01-21-2004, 06:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I bought it at a local head shop.

I dont remember what bit it was, but it was the only thing they had at sears. Silicone carbide maybe? I got two just in case.

I know that closer to upright the better, but thats a hard hole to cut. Plus the stopper thing is simply a grooved ring.
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Old 01-22-2004, 03:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well, we were sucessful. We got a decent angle, but it's a little shy of where it would be nice. I think we are gunna get a bent slider tube. That way we can get the glass in the water more.

However, we decided to try the corvassier (sp...I know) Cognac bottle. The angle on the top of one of those is perfct, and it hits haaaard.

EDIT: Because I shouldn't test the bongs directly before I write about them.

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Old 01-22-2004, 06:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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glad it worked for you. Now, you can make more and sell them to your stoner freinds. Thats what i do lol. I get $10 for a jones soda bottle with a bagel on it.
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Old 01-22-2004, 09:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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what r u using for a bowl and stem?
 
Old 01-23-2004, 08:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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We bought the bowl and stem. Glass.
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Old 01-23-2004, 09:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Why do stoners have such an overwhelming urge to turn everything into a bong?
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Old 01-23-2004, 09:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Why do stoners have such an overwhelming urge to turn everything into a bong?
The unkind thing to say would be something along the lines of "Why do straightedges have an overwhelming urge to turn every discussion of stoner culture into one on the evils of drugs?" However, it's really because, when you have an interest, it can get to the point where almost everything relates back to that interest. I brew beer, so every time I come across a new food, I think about how it would go with beer, what kind of beer I could make to go with it, can be made with beer, and/or can it be used to make beer (or mead). When I was playing D&D, everyone I knew got measured as to how interesting an NPC they would make, and every book I read I looked for ideas for my campaign world. If smoking the herb is your thing, than one of the thing that you can do with it is make smoking devices. And pretty much any container or tube (or root vegetable, for that matter) can be a starting point.

I used to have (confiscated during a raid that eventually took the whole goddamn house) a Cuervo 1800 bong. It had a two hole rubber stopper (6.5 or 7) with a long tube from the bowl to near the bottom, and a shorter bent tube from just under the stopper to a food grade vinyl hose with a pipe stem on the end. Also had a bamboo bong, and a number of store bought, from 6 to 36".
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Old 01-23-2004, 03:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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New idea for the Jager bong. Since we had the rubber ring for the slide tube, it forced us to make the hole bigger.

With a new jager bottle (easily 6 of these laying around) we plan on making the hole just the size of the slide tube. Then using a bead of silicone (also something i have a lot of) to seal/hold it.

That way, the glass from the bottle can hold the slide at an angle, rather then having to push the end of the slide against the back of the bottle to hold the angle (cuz damn... that just made me nervous).
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Old 01-23-2004, 04:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The unkind thing to say would be something along the lines of "Why do straightedges have an overwhelming urge to turn every discussion of stoner culture into one on the evils of drugs?"
First thing, I am not straightedge, in fact, I am borderline alcoholic. I have smoked my fair share of herb and then some. Granted, I only partake on very rare occasions at this point, but you see what I am saying.
The point of my post was to be humorous observation. A hypothetical question.
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Old 01-23-2004, 07:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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First thing, I am not straightedge, in fact, I am borderline alcoholic. I have smoked my fair share of herb and then some. Granted, I only partake on very rare occasions at this point, but you see what I am saying.
The point of my post was to be humorous observation. A hypothetical question.
As was the point of mine. I really should have put a after that line; I really was smiling when I said it. I did not mean to offend or even put anyone's back up. If I did, I do hope you will accept this as my apology.

That said, I hope the rest of my post answered you: everyone has a hobby, and it seeps into the rest of your life.
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Old 01-31-2004, 05:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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UPDATE: Got around to drilling a new jager bong, put the slide tube in, and thought about the silicone... fumes, and drying time mostly.

Decided to use a candle to drip wax in the tiny crevice around the tube. That way I can easily retrieve the tube, and I think it will stay cool enough to not melt the wax away.

ALways thinking!
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Old 01-31-2004, 06:29 PM   #15 (permalink)
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i'd love to see a pic of your work dude.

keep workin' on it.
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Old 02-01-2004, 09:23 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I should have a fewpics up tonight...

Whether or not they work well (and trust me, they do) its fun as hell to do. Ive always been creative/crafty, and this is a perfect opportunity!

My friend derrick wants to get into acrylics too...
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Old 02-01-2004, 03:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Pics posted in photgraphy.
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:56 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Important safety note:

If you are holding the bottle in your hand while drilling, wear a freakin' leather glove.

If you are running tap water on it while drilling, your leather glove will get wet and feel nasty, thereby temping you to take it off. Do not give into temptation! Better a wet glove than a hand that is cut to ribbons.
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Also, you can use silicone instead of wax. It lasts a lot longer and makes a better seal. COAT THE STEM IN VASALINE first, position it, then apply the silicone. The Vasaline will keep the silicone from sticking to the stem while it drys.
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Old 02-02-2004, 10:05 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I'd have to agree with the silicone only because of the fumes aspect. When that stem heats up who knows what happens to the silicone around it. Better safe than sorry.

edit: if it has a rubber stopper, can't you just use that as a seal that is airtight? I know when I used to make plastic ones I made a few that all I needed was the rubber stopper.

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Old 02-02-2004, 11:16 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Ever had a toxic bong hit from a homemade bong ? burning pvc or silicone. HARSH. I made many and learned some hard lessons along the way.
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Old 02-02-2004, 02:42 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't know any of the specific answers - I'll just be the safety nut and stress how important it will be for you to wear eye protection and a good dust mask. The thought of glass slivers in the eye makes me shudder...
i don't know if you watch them but have you ever noticed that on 'American Chopper, Monster garage , and Monster House' they hardly ever wear safety glasses, I guess OSHA rules don't apply to TV.
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Old 02-02-2004, 04:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Well, no stopper because of the angle it needs to be at, If we make the hole big enough for the stopper, the slide doesnt go down into the bottom of the bottle enough.

I was going to use silicone at some point, the wax being temporary.

Vasaline eh? then the tube can still be used on other bongs, i like it.
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Old 02-05-2004, 02:10 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I'd avoid using silicone on it, you want to be able to take apart easily for cleaning purposes.

Try using a tapered rubber bung with hole through it.


**edit**

Scratch that, I've just seen the photos.

Nice bong krwlz.
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Old 02-05-2004, 08:45 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Thanks man. I think the vasaline and silicone idea from clavus on the slide is the best. I knew I could count on you guys for tips.

Link for those who prefer not to search for the pics thread.
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:20 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I find cutting a hole in a glass bottle to much hassle you can make a bong with a glass bottle by just using plastic tubing.

but i must say that bong looks sick.
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:25 AM   #26 (permalink)
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It hits sick too... I wish I could have each and everyone of you give it a shot.
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