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LoganSnake · 05-14-2005, 10:17 PM

Well, is this Revolution?

You decide. Some say it's fake, some don't. If it's a fake, then this is the best fake I have ever seen.

By the way, it is a 6 minute long video. So if you're on 56K you're outta luck.

Mr.Deflok · 05-14-2005, 11:01 PM

BEING Samus would be fucking amazing, apparently it's a fan mock up but a fucking damn good one.

aswo · 05-14-2005, 11:41 PM

I dont see how that could possibly be a fake movie, that would freaking amazeing if it where true

CityOfAngels · 05-15-2005, 12:12 AM

Hahaha. Wow. It's fake because all of the graphics they used are straight out of the Gamecube, but wow. That is definitely a great sci-fi look on the future of Nintendo and gaming in general. I mean, that is a great idea to have a device that can read your surroundings and implement them into "self-made" games, but technology just isn't there yet. It's definitely sci-fi.

Er, I take that back. Technology just might already be there, but there's so much below that tech tier that needs to be marketed and capitalized on. If this were even real, we would not know about it NOW, and they'd be marketing a lower quality device or system, trying to make money on that before they make money on something as innovative as this.

Rdr4evr · 05-15-2005, 12:41 AM

someone went through a lot of trouble to make a fairly convincing clip. Although I think it's 100% fake, it was very well done and quite badass. Besides, IGN recently said the Revolution will only be about an inch vertically.

hulk · 05-15-2005, 03:33 AM

Man, so many castles...

Pretty much confirmed fake, but goddamn it's one fucking awesome clip.

Ace_O_Spades · 05-15-2005, 05:33 AM

that would be sweet

and yes, an awful lot of effort went into that

irateplatypus · 05-15-2005, 06:14 AM

almost certainly a fake.

however, putting that video together is its own accomplishment. the person behind that has my thanks and admiration. from what i've seen of nintendo's promo videos... they should give this man a call.

sub zero · 05-15-2005, 07:06 AM

I'm not sure that this could be completely fake unless someone could find an article where they say it is fake. All the technology that they showed in this video isn't anything thats new, wireless controllers and loading games directly into systems from other systems are already something that exist. Heck in one of the new wario ware games the system moves with you when you shake the DS.
The only thing thats really new is the package that its being delivered in and maybe the game lenses itself, but they did make a point of the virtual boy. Maybe Nintendo has been keeping this ace up its sleeve until the right moment.

LoganSnake · 05-15-2005, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sub zero

I'm not sure that this could be completely fake unless someone could find an article where they say it is fake.

http://cube.ign.com/articles/613/613578p1.html

Quote:

Hype: Revolution Mock-Up
A new fan-made Revolution video has Nintendo fans marveling at the possibilities. Must see.
by Matt Casamassina

May 13, 2005 - The six-plus minute video appeared on various message boards this afternoon and ever since Nintendo fans everywhere have been fighting to download it. The render, created by an unknown (and very talented) artist or artists, mocks-up what some Nintendo fans would call their dream scenario: a Nintendo Revolution that is so far ahead of the curve that it truly revolutionizes the way people play games. In this case, the console is no longer a console, but a virtual reality headset.

The video is not real, but some fans probably wish it were.

IGN has included the video in downloadable form. Readers are free to check it out. While it's unlikely that the render is at all an indication of the final system, which Nintendo plans to talk about and showcase at E3 2005, it's an impressive design feat nevertheless.

sub zero · 05-15-2005, 08:04 AM

Well that really sucks.

nothingx · 05-15-2005, 10:16 AM

http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?...139&page=other

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In its final form, Revolution will be about the thickness of three standard DVD cases and only slightly longer. The versatile Revolution will play either horizontally or vertically, allowing the user total flexibility in setting up a gaming session wherever they have a television.

Revolutionary!! Just like the PS2 and now the XBOX!

Quote:

In the next generation, the addition of the Internet will be important to all consoles and particularly important to Nintendo. Revolution will be wireless Internet ready out of the box.

Again, nothing revolutionary here...

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but the combination of its compact size, wireless Internet, backward compatibility, quick start-up time and quiet, low-power operation add up to the start of a great game system

A great system? First off, does anyone really care about console size? Obviously, if it was too big to carry to a friends house, that wouldn't be okay... but c'mon anything around the size of a toaster is good enough for me. Internet connectivity should be assumed to be in any console these days, if it's not there, you've missed the boat entirely. Wireless is a nice touch, but even that is becoming fairly standard. Backward compatibility has always been one of Nintendo's strategies, I wouldn't expect anything else. Low-power operation? WTF? Does anyone really care about this? Maybe if electricity was as expensive as gasoline I would care, but it's not, so why market it as a selling point?

Perhaps "start of any typical next generation console", sure.... but of a "great system"? That has yet to be proven.

By the way, that video was fake as shit. From the looks of it, Revolution is going to be about as revolutionary as the Gamecube.

Lasereth · 05-15-2005, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nothingx

http://www.nintendo.com/newsarticle?...139&page=other

Revolutionary!! Just like the PS2 and now the XBOX!

Again, nothing revolutionary here...

A great system? First off, does anyone really care about console size? Obviously, if it was too big to carry to a friends house, that wouldn't be okay... but c'mon anything around the size of a toaster is good enough for me. Internet connectivity should be assumed to be in any console these days, if it's not there, you've missed the boat entirely. Wireless is a nice touch, but even that is becoming fairly standard. Backward compatibility has always been one of Nintendo's strategies, I wouldn't expect anything else. Low-power operation? WTF? Does anyone really care about this? Maybe if electricity was as expensive as gasoline I would care, but it's not, so why market it as a selling point?

Perhaps "start of any typical next generation console", sure.... but of a "great system"? That has yet to be proven.

By the way, that video was fake as shit. From the looks of it, Revolution is going to be about as revolutionary as the Gamecube.

Yes, how dare Nintendo attempt to market their console as great!

Ha ha. I have full confidence that all three systems will have great games, just like right now. Anyone who denies the greatness of all three companies is pissed because they can't afford all three or is a fanboy. A true gamer cares about playing great games...and there's great games on all three consoles, just as there will be on the next-gen systems.

*EDIT*

Just watched the video. VERY nice quality...I think it's fake, but I'm still not sure why anyone would produce such a high quality movie production over something that's completely fake.

-Lasereth

stevie667 · 05-15-2005, 11:21 AM

I think some uni/college student probably made that for a peice of coursework or something similar to show off their computer animation skills.

Still looks crisp.

nothingx · 05-15-2005, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lasereth

Anyone who denies the greatness of all three companies is pissed because they can't afford all three or is a fanboy. A true gamer cares about playing great games...

You've got me wrong entirely. I am neither a fanboy, nor lacking the funds to get anything I want. So why am I so bitter about Nintendo...? Because competition is what drives the industry. If Nintendo fails, the console market will completely dominated by Sony and Microsoft. When that happens, all the great games for Nintendo will be gone. Look at Sega, for example. Their consoles just weren't competetive enough. Nintendo dominated them. Now the only time I get to play Sonic is on the rare occation they make a game for Nintendo's hardware. If Nintendo continues this trend of mediocre consoles, its only a matter of time before the same thing happens to them.

And that is why you, as a true gamer, should care that Nintendo is losing their market share... and should be pissed that they can't figure out what makes consoles sell.

LoganSnake · 05-15-2005, 02:26 PM

Personally, if they wish to not enter the competition and do their own thing, they deserve whatever happens to them. Shit, I wouldn't mind Nintendo becoming a third party and making games for the other consoles. How many things did Nintendo do wrong this generation? Let's see, lack of online plan, lack of third parties, lack of original titles, propriotary disk format. They alienated themselves. If this keeps up, Nintendo will only remain as a game developing studio, not a console maker.

Unless they offer something drastic that will pull the audience to their side, there might not be a Nintendo next generation.

guthmund · 05-15-2005, 08:56 PM

I don't see the gamecube as mediocre at all. I mean, there have been some truly beautiful games made for the console that I just don't think would've worked on the X-box or PS2. (Resident Evil 4 jumps to mind, but certainly isn't the only one)

As for Nintendo going the third party route, I think I would sob like a little girl, if I was forced to play Link, Mario, or Samus on another console. Which begs the question, what lack of original titles? Luigi's Mansion, Sunshine Mario, Super Smash Bros., Metroid Prime(s) 1 & 2, a re-vamp of Link in Wind Waker and the aforementioned Resident Evil 4. Now they're definately sequels to existing character franchises, but certainly original games by themselves. The on-line thing probably hurt them a bit, but not nearly as much as it would have if The Revolution wasn't going on-line, so, not a big loss. I mean, let's remember the on-line hoop-la was just starting and wasn't all that big until Microsoft put some serious dough behind Live, at least, in the console arena. All the big three have proprietary disk formats, so I don't know where that's coming from.

I said it before, I'll say it again, I don't think Nintendo is going to be out of the console business for a while. They've got revenue from other areas when it all comes down to it. So, as long as the gamer community out there is willing to let Nintendo experiment all they want, I don't think they'll be going the third party developer route for a while.

hulk · 05-16-2005, 01:46 AM

Isn't it something like five percent of X-Box owners and three percent of PS2 owners use online? It's not quite as big as they make it out to be, I think.

And hell, the online service the Rev is free. So there.

guthmund · 05-16-2005, 01:13 PM

^ I don't know how it breaks down according to percentages of different consoles, but the latest number I read was 9 million American gamers are regularly on-line.

killeena · 05-17-2005, 05:50 AM

I don't remember exactly where I saw it, but I saw a quote from some N exec saying that while the PS3 is like 25 times more powerful than the PS2, the XBox 360 is like 10 times more powerful than the XBox, the Revolution is only 3-4 times as powerful and the GC. They said that instead of focusing on graphics and being pretty, they are focusing on bringing good games to the system. Not a damn thing wrong with that in my opinion.

They also said something about putting more focus on older gamers instead of only the young ones. I think that in itself will help N immensely.

05-14-2005, 10:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	Nintendo ON Well, is this Revolution? You decide. Some say it's fake, some don't. If it's a fake, then this is the best fake I have ever seen. By the way, it is a 6 minute long video. So if you're on 56K you're outta luck. __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

05-14-2005, 11:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	BEING Samus would be fucking amazing, apparently it's a fan mock up but a fucking damn good one. Last edited by Mr.Deflok; 05-14-2005 at 11:10 PM..

05-14-2005, 11:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
aswo Crazy	I dont see how that could possibly be a fake movie, that would freaking amazeing if it where true __________________ People who love people

05-15-2005, 03:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
hulk C'mon, just blow it. Location: Perth, Australia	Man, so many castles... Pretty much confirmed fake, but goddamn it's one fucking awesome clip. __________________ "'There's a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,' says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex." -- From an IGN game review.

05-15-2005, 05:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	that would be sweet and yes, an awful lot of effort went into that __________________ Feh.

05-15-2005, 12:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
Rdr4evr Banned	someone went through a lot of trouble to make a fairly convincing clip. Although I think it's 100% fake, it was very well done and quite badass. Besides, IGN recently said the Revolution will only be about an inch vertically.

05-15-2005, 06:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
irateplatypus can't help but laugh Location: dar al-harb	almost certainly a fake. however, putting that video together is its own accomplishment. the person behind that has my thanks and admiration. from what i've seen of nintendo's promo videos... they should give this man a call. __________________ If you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. ~ Winston Churchill

05-15-2005, 07:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
sub zero Addict Location: The one state that doesn't have black outs: TEXAS BABY!!!	I'm not sure that this could be completely fake unless someone could find an article where they say it is fake. All the technology that they showed in this video isn't anything thats new, wireless controllers and loading games directly into systems from other systems are already something that exist. Heck in one of the new wario ware games the system moves with you when you shake the DS. The only thing thats really new is the package that its being delivered in and maybe the game lenses itself, but they did make a point of the virtual boy. Maybe Nintendo has been keeping this ace up its sleeve until the right moment. __________________ Did you Google it yet? Join the TFP Typing team!!

05-15-2005, 08:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
sub zero Addict Location: The one state that doesn't have black outs: TEXAS BABY!!!	Well that really sucks. __________________ Did you Google it yet? Join the TFP Typing team!!

05-15-2005, 11:21 AM	#14 (permalink)
stevie667 Too Awesome for Aardvarks Location: Angloland	I think some uni/college student probably made that for a peice of coursework or something similar to show off their computer animation skills. Still looks crisp. __________________ Office hours have changed. Please call during office hours for more information.

05-15-2005, 02:26 PM	#16 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	Personally, if they wish to not enter the competition and do their own thing, they deserve whatever happens to them. Shit, I wouldn't mind Nintendo becoming a third party and making games for the other consoles. How many things did Nintendo do wrong this generation? Let's see, lack of online plan, lack of third parties, lack of original titles, propriotary disk format. They alienated themselves. If this keeps up, Nintendo will only remain as a game developing studio, not a console maker. Unless they offer something drastic that will pull the audience to their side, there might not be a Nintendo next generation. __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques

05-15-2005, 08:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	I don't see the gamecube as mediocre at all. I mean, there have been some truly beautiful games made for the console that I just don't think would've worked on the X-box or PS2. (Resident Evil 4 jumps to mind, but certainly isn't the only one) As for Nintendo going the third party route, I think I would sob like a little girl, if I was forced to play Link, Mario, or Samus on another console. Which begs the question, what lack of original titles? Luigi's Mansion, Sunshine Mario, Super Smash Bros., Metroid Prime(s) 1 & 2, a re-vamp of Link in Wind Waker and the aforementioned Resident Evil 4. Now they're definately sequels to existing character franchises, but certainly original games by themselves. The on-line thing probably hurt them a bit, but not nearly as much as it would have if The Revolution wasn't going on-line, so, not a big loss. I mean, let's remember the on-line hoop-la was just starting and wasn't all that big until Microsoft put some serious dough behind Live, at least, in the console arena. All the big three have proprietary disk formats, so I don't know where that's coming from. I said it before, I'll say it again, I don't think Nintendo is going to be out of the console business for a while. They've got revenue from other areas when it all comes down to it. So, as long as the gamer community out there is willing to let Nintendo experiment all they want, I don't think they'll be going the third party developer route for a while. __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

05-16-2005, 01:46 AM	#18 (permalink)
hulk C'mon, just blow it. Location: Perth, Australia	Isn't it something like five percent of X-Box owners and three percent of PS2 owners use online? It's not quite as big as they make it out to be, I think. And hell, the online service the Rev is free. So there. __________________ "'There's a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,' says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex." -- From an IGN game review.

05-16-2005, 01:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	^ I don't know how it breaks down according to percentages of different consoles, but the latest number I read was 9 million American gamers are regularly on-line. __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

05-17-2005, 05:50 AM	#20 (permalink)
killeena Crazy Location: Meechigan	I don't remember exactly where I saw it, but I saw a quote from some N exec saying that while the PS3 is like 25 times more powerful than the PS2, the XBox 360 is like 10 times more powerful than the XBox, the Revolution is only 3-4 times as powerful and the GC. They said that instead of focusing on graphics and being pretty, they are focusing on bringing good games to the system. Not a damn thing wrong with that in my opinion. They also said something about putting more focus on older gamers instead of only the young ones. I think that in itself will help N immensely. __________________ Freedom would be not to choose between black and white but to abjure such prescribed choices. - Theodor Adorno