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theburner · 11-22-2004, 07:55 AM

Has anyone picked this up? I have heard from one of my buddies that this game rocks the house. Anyone played it? Have they fixed the hosting issues that in GRIT required you to have a T1 to host more than a 6 player game?

Any feedback is much appreciated, I LOVED GRIT and GR, and would love to pick this up if it is worth it.

iamtheone · 11-23-2004, 04:31 AM

I am looking for a review here as well...

The only bad things I heard is that on some occasions the game will reboot your xbox. The AI/Controls have been dumbed up some more, and the linear game play is gone....

I am gonna go rent this title before purchase to make sure it is as good as the previous....

the_marq · 11-23-2004, 07:05 AM

I have to wait till March for a PC release??? Damn you Tom Clancy (or whoever)!

theburner · 11-23-2004, 10:38 AM

I picked it up, and have to say Halo2 online setup (parties, etc) blow away GR2's. GR2 still makes you hit start, then choose an option, then choose friends list JUST TO SEND AN INVITE.

Play is ok.. Basically I put H2 back into the Xbox after about 1/2 hour of GR2 because I had a tough time finding people to play online. And I LOVED the earlier GR series, so I am not a H2 fanboy. Just not enough different this time around.

Coll Storm · 11-23-2004, 07:36 PM

What do you expect????

Halo 2 has been out for a few weeks, where Ghost Recon 2 has just come out and hasn't gotten half the attention that Halo 2 has.

As for gameplay Ghost Recon 2 rocks. I've told a few forums about it and a few people have picked it up and have played it, and are now raving about it.

You can play 4 players co-op to beat the game if you want to or you can take a more Socom like route and play every man for himself or team vs. team.

It's a good game and I suggest that if you're not sure, then rent it. I'm very happy with my purchase and hope that everyone gives this title a chance to shine.

NeverBorn · 11-23-2004, 10:47 PM

Still waiting for a decent review

theburner · 11-24-2004, 06:20 AM

It is ok. Here are the pros and cons as far as I am concerned. Let me start out by saying I played GR and GRIT for more than 120 hours, and really did love both games.

1) I have had errors with this disk locking up and making me restart my Xbox. I have had 4 people ask me about this online also, so it isn't a random event. And no, 2 of the people had Xboxes that were less than 6 months old, so it isn't a Thompson issue.
2) The weapon loadouts are more realistic than previously, you actually carry a Master weapon, sidearm or grenade launcher, rocket launcher, and grenades. Your main weapon is chosen much like before, choose a class then choose a weapon.
3) The third party view is going to take some getting used to. When you zoom in, you zoom from over the shoulder, instead of previously where your screen just zoomed in.
4) The online game finding and friends system is POORLY laid out. Some of the biggest complaints about the previous versions were you had to hit start, choose online options, then friends list. THEY DIDN"T CHANGE IT. If people complain about something, change it. It can be VERY clunky to send invites and manage your friends in this game.
5) Graphics are good, better than before and better than I expected. It also looks like they did some great motion capture for their movements. The movements are realistic looking, and not robotic.
6) AI sucks. Just like the previous versions, guys will just charge you in lone wolf mode instead of using flanking or cover and move techniques. However, online play (team or solo) does increase the oppositions abilities.
7) If carpet bombers and such annoyed you before, this game will PISS YOU OFF. Now people can take grenade launchers, AND ROCKET LAUNCHERS, AND GRENADES at the same time. Oh yeah.. and airstrikes.
8) Maps are AWESOME. I have to give props where props are due. HUGE, well detailed, ton's of hiding places.... This part of the game gets a 10/10.

If you like military simulation games, Red Storm continues to rule the roost. Rainbow Six and GR2 are strategy, simulation type games. No bunnyhopping Halo2 jump and gun fights here. One or two shots and you are dead. I don't know if simulation games have just raised the bar, or if this game just doesn't excite me. Yes it is fun to play, but I find myself losing interest quickly. Online it can be tough to find players, and it can be even harder to keep them.

Overall, here are my scores:
Graphics 9/10
Sound 8/10 (no barking dogs this time!)
Online 7/10 (Lost points for hiding friends list options, and lost points for ease of finding games. Halo2 online matchmaking and parties options just set the bar extremely high. This score is not reflecting how the game plays online, just how hard it is to manage the online options and ease of finding games)
Gameplay 8.5/10 (Lost points because they increased the ability to carry even MORE explosives, instead of less.. I know, you can turn it off but there aren't enough people playing the game to alienate some of those that are)
Overall: 8/10... Am I sad I bought it? No... I just feel sorry for Red Storm trying to compete against Halo 2. Poor timing on bringing this game out.

crossova · 11-24-2004, 06:24 AM

thanks for the in-depth review. is the main campaign able to be played in a co-op mode (similar to H2).

iamtheone · 11-24-2004, 06:40 AM

Yes crossova.... 4 player coop mode.

Mr. Mojo · 11-30-2004, 11:17 AM

Whoops - i didnt see this before. answers lots of questions..

iamtheone · 11-30-2004, 12:07 PM

Well, I rented this game this weekend and to be honest I hated it. You wait to goto prown, you want to stafe, you wait to reload your weapons you wait to change your weapons.... I dunno, I am a HUGE fan of the first, this one did not impress me...... RS Black Arrow on the other hand was very fun....

Scorps · 12-26-2004, 10:52 AM

Well I got it for Christmas and I can't stop playing this thing, it is the best Ghost Recon game so far(and thank god you can pick between First Person or Thrid Person)

So if you like war/first person shooters pick this up and 4 players.....you can't beat it.

Spritebox · 01-03-2005, 10:59 AM

I've got it and I love it. I still play Halo 2, but it depends on what kind of mood I'm in.

Both are equally enjoyable, but their style of gameplay is just VERY VERY different.

My only complaint is that they took out my favorite map from Ghost Recon 1 (the city level with the bank and parking deck).

jamessh1 · 01-03-2005, 03:47 PM

judging from the reviews in this thread this game will get a rental from me to check out the mulit-player co-op. i wish more games had a co-op missions mode.

Coppertop · 01-04-2005, 01:21 PM

I'm waiting for the PC version. March? That's not so far off.

FngKestrel · 01-04-2005, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spritebox

My only complaint is that they took out my favorite map from Ghost Recon 1 (the city level with the bank and parking deck).

Noooo!!! That was my favorite level too. Of course, I love CQB, so Rainbow 6 Three was a must buy.

Scorps · 01-05-2005, 03:47 PM

I played Ghost Recon 1 and the 2 expantion packs on the PC, they where a lot harder then GR2.

11-22-2004, 07:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
theburner Canadian Beer Ambassador Location: Cumming, GA	Ghost Recon 2 for Xbox Has anyone picked this up? I have heard from one of my buddies that this game rocks the house. Anyone played it? Have they fixed the hosting issues that in GRIT required you to have a T1 to host more than a 6 player game? Any feedback is much appreciated, I LOVED GRIT and GR, and would love to pick this up if it is worth it. __________________ Take Off Eh!

11-23-2004, 04:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
iamtheone Psychoholic Location: Ein tov she'ein bo ra!	I am looking for a review here as well... The only bad things I heard is that on some occasions the game will reboot your xbox. The AI/Controls have been dumbed up some more, and the linear game play is gone.... I am gonna go rent this title before purchase to make sure it is as good as the previous.... __________________ Music is holy, art is sacred, and creativity is power... Think for Yourself Question Authority

11-23-2004, 07:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
the_marq All hail the Mountain King Location: Black Mesa	I have to wait till March for a PC release??? Damn you Tom Clancy (or whoever)! __________________ The Truth: Johnny Cash could have kicked Bruce Lee's ass if he wanted to. #3 in a series

11-23-2004, 10:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
theburner Canadian Beer Ambassador Location: Cumming, GA	I picked it up, and have to say Halo2 online setup (parties, etc) blow away GR2's. GR2 still makes you hit start, then choose an option, then choose friends list JUST TO SEND AN INVITE. Play is ok.. Basically I put H2 back into the Xbox after about 1/2 hour of GR2 because I had a tough time finding people to play online. And I LOVED the earlier GR series, so I am not a H2 fanboy. Just not enough different this time around. __________________ Take Off Eh!

11-24-2004, 06:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
theburner Canadian Beer Ambassador Location: Cumming, GA	It is ok. Here are the pros and cons as far as I am concerned. Let me start out by saying I played GR and GRIT for more than 120 hours, and really did love both games. 1) I have had errors with this disk locking up and making me restart my Xbox. I have had 4 people ask me about this online also, so it isn't a random event. And no, 2 of the people had Xboxes that were less than 6 months old, so it isn't a Thompson issue. 2) The weapon loadouts are more realistic than previously, you actually carry a Master weapon, sidearm or grenade launcher, rocket launcher, and grenades. Your main weapon is chosen much like before, choose a class then choose a weapon. 3) The third party view is going to take some getting used to. When you zoom in, you zoom from over the shoulder, instead of previously where your screen just zoomed in. 4) The online game finding and friends system is POORLY laid out. Some of the biggest complaints about the previous versions were you had to hit start, choose online options, then friends list. THEY DIDN"T CHANGE IT. If people complain about something, change it. It can be VERY clunky to send invites and manage your friends in this game. 5) Graphics are good, better than before and better than I expected. It also looks like they did some great motion capture for their movements. The movements are realistic looking, and not robotic. 6) AI sucks. Just like the previous versions, guys will just charge you in lone wolf mode instead of using flanking or cover and move techniques. However, online play (team or solo) does increase the oppositions abilities. 7) If carpet bombers and such annoyed you before, this game will PISS YOU OFF. Now people can take grenade launchers, AND ROCKET LAUNCHERS, AND GRENADES at the same time. Oh yeah.. and airstrikes. 8) Maps are AWESOME. I have to give props where props are due. HUGE, well detailed, ton's of hiding places.... This part of the game gets a 10/10. If you like military simulation games, Red Storm continues to rule the roost. Rainbow Six and GR2 are strategy, simulation type games. No bunnyhopping Halo2 jump and gun fights here. One or two shots and you are dead. I don't know if simulation games have just raised the bar, or if this game just doesn't excite me. Yes it is fun to play, but I find myself losing interest quickly. Online it can be tough to find players, and it can be even harder to keep them. Overall, here are my scores: Graphics 9/10 Sound 8/10 (no barking dogs this time!) Online 7/10 (Lost points for hiding friends list options, and lost points for ease of finding games. Halo2 online matchmaking and parties options just set the bar extremely high. This score is not reflecting how the game plays online, just how hard it is to manage the online options and ease of finding games) Gameplay 8.5/10 (Lost points because they increased the ability to carry even MORE explosives, instead of less.. I know, you can turn it off but there aren't enough people playing the game to alienate some of those that are) Overall: 8/10... Am I sad I bought it? No... I just feel sorry for Red Storm trying to compete against Halo 2. Poor timing on bringing this game out. __________________ Take Off Eh!

11-23-2004, 07:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Coll Storm Crazy Location: Boston	What do you expect???? Halo 2 has been out for a few weeks, where Ghost Recon 2 has just come out and hasn't gotten half the attention that Halo 2 has. As for gameplay Ghost Recon 2 rocks. I've told a few forums about it and a few people have picked it up and have played it, and are now raving about it. You can play 4 players co-op to beat the game if you want to or you can take a more Socom like route and play every man for himself or team vs. team. It's a good game and I suggest that if you're not sure, then rent it. I'm very happy with my purchase and hope that everyone gives this title a chance to shine.

11-23-2004, 10:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
NeverBorn I'm a pepper bitch..	Still waiting for a decent review

11-24-2004, 06:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
crossova Psycho Location: new york	thanks for the in-depth review. is the main campaign able to be played in a co-op mode (similar to H2).

11-24-2004, 06:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
iamtheone Psychoholic Location: Ein tov she'ein bo ra!	Yes crossova.... 4 player coop mode. __________________ Music is holy, art is sacred, and creativity is power... Think for Yourself Question Authority

11-30-2004, 11:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mr. Mojo Addict Location: NYC	Whoops - i didnt see this before. answers lots of questions.. __________________ When I jerk off I feel good for about twenty seconds and then WHAM it's right back into suicidal depression

11-30-2004, 12:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
iamtheone Psychoholic Location: Ein tov she'ein bo ra!	Well, I rented this game this weekend and to be honest I hated it. You wait to goto prown, you want to stafe, you wait to reload your weapons you wait to change your weapons.... I dunno, I am a HUGE fan of the first, this one did not impress me...... RS Black Arrow on the other hand was very fun.... __________________ Music is holy, art is sacred, and creativity is power... Think for Yourself Question Authority

12-26-2004, 10:52 AM	#12 (permalink)
Scorps Lost!! Location: Kingston, Ontario	Well I got it for Christmas and I can't stop playing this thing, it is the best Ghost Recon game so far(and thank god you can pick between First Person or Thrid Person) So if you like war/first person shooters pick this up and 4 players.....you can't beat it. __________________ A.K.A. PainTrain

01-03-2005, 10:59 AM	#13 (permalink)
Spritebox Insane Location: Charlotte, N.C.	I've got it and I love it. I still play Halo 2, but it depends on what kind of mood I'm in. Both are equally enjoyable, but their style of gameplay is just VERY VERY different. My only complaint is that they took out my favorite map from Ghost Recon 1 (the city level with the bank and parking deck). __________________ it's all nice on ice alright and it's not day and it's not night but it's all nice on ice alright

01-03-2005, 03:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
jamessh1 Crazy	judging from the reviews in this thread this game will get a rental from me to check out the mulit-player co-op. i wish more games had a co-op missions mode.

01-04-2005, 01:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
Coppertop Getting Medieval on your ass Location: 13th century Europe	I'm waiting for the PC version. March? That's not so far off.

01-05-2005, 03:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
Scorps Lost!! Location: Kingston, Ontario	I played Ghost Recon 1 and the 2 expantion packs on the PC, they where a lot harder then GR2.