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MahlerIsGod · 12-04-2003, 11:40 PM

We have heard so much about the next Playstation and Xbox. Due out probably in 2005?. But I haven't heard anything about Nintendo's next console. Does anyone know when or if Nintendo is releasing their next console? I have an Xbox and I have decided that my next console will be a Gamecube but I don't want to buy one just a for a year's worth of gaming. I will most definintely buy the new Xbox when it comes out but I have gotten years of gaming out of the one I have now. Does anyone know about a new Gamecube? Thanks

BulletCatcher · 12-05-2003, 12:36 AM

Take a look look HERE for some information about the GameCube 2.

Not a whole lot of info but they do have links to other rumor sites.

Moskie · 12-05-2003, 04:04 AM

are they really planning on calling it the "Gamecube 2"? Not only is it unoriginal in and of itself, but it's a scheme that Sony is already in the midst of. Not that Sony is the only company allowed to do this or anything... I just think that Nintendo would want to stress what (if anything) makes their next console better than Sony's. Mimicking (or at least mirroring) Sony's naming scheme would do just the opposite....

BulletCatcher · 12-05-2003, 04:55 AM

Look at their track record so far. Nintendo Entertainment System, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64 / GameBoy, GameBoy Color, GameBoy Advance...

Ganguro · 12-05-2003, 05:32 AM

Mahler, if the console has games you like for it, just buy it now..
It's not like those games on the market are going to dissapear or anything..
Plus the closer to launch of the new console, the cheaper the current software will get. Well.. in theory..

Lasereth · 12-05-2003, 07:04 AM

I know that the GC2 and the XBox2 are going to release before the PS3. This is the first time Sony hasn't had the initiative in the console launch, so things may be different this next generation of consoles. Apparently Sony's Cell Technology is harder to develop than they thought. I believe Sony has said that the PS3 is probably late 2005 or 2006 launch. I do know that there's a VERY big chance of it playing PS1, PS2, PSP, and PS3 games (source: EGM).

-Lasereth

t3m3st · 12-05-2003, 07:12 AM

I would think they would want to limit the next system's association with the gamecube to get away from that image. Don't get me wrong, I love my 'cube, but not everyone else does

Lasereth · 12-05-2003, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by t3m3st
I would think they would want to limit the next system's association with the gamecube to get away from that image. Don't get me wrong, I love my 'cube, but not everyone else does

I think they might be able to retain the name again, but a few things WILL have to change: DVD capabilities, and onling gaming are a must. Miyamoto, you have a good idea, and I give you credit for being a pure gaming enthusiast, but if the consumers want DVD and online gaming then it would be stupid to not give it to them.

-Lasereth

quest1mark · 12-05-2003, 07:24 AM

i think that its too soon to bring out new consoles. just strive on making new games for the ones already out.

feelgood · 12-05-2003, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by quest1mark
i think that its too soon to bring out new consoles. just strive on making new games for the ones already out.

I agree. If they start bringing out new console right now, then the consumer gets fucked over with b/c the game developers will most likely focus new games based on new console. If Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft are smart enough, they'll wait to make money off the current consoles before kicking out new consoles.

Moskie · 12-05-2003, 07:55 AM

I also think it's a bit soon to start bringing out new consoles. Does anyone feel like their current console is aging? I sure don't...

But if they do come out in the next year or so, one thing I would hope to see in the next generation consoles is backwards compatibility, like Sony did with the PS2. That would at least extend the lives of the current consoles a bit.

Lasereth · 12-05-2003, 09:18 AM

Everyone, the next-gen consoles aren't coming out too soon. It's 2003 now. It will soon be 2004...then a solid year after that, 2005. Then almost a full year after that (end of 2005) is when the FIRST next-gen consoles are supposed to debut. The PS2, GC, and XBox still have almost two years ahead of them. They're following the typical console rule: 5 years. Most gaming consoles last 5 years before they are replaced, and this is going the same for the current systems.

2005 and 2006 is a great schedule for the next-gen consoles. PS2 is getting aged now. It came out in 2000! A 2006 release date for PS3 would make the PS2 SIX years old by then. That's longer than the PS1 lasted.

GC2 and XBX2 are rumored to release in late 2005 which would put them at the 4-year mark which I agree is a little early. I honestly think GC2 and XBX 2 will be pushed into 2006 as well.

-Lasereth

Stare At The Sun · 12-05-2003, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by Lasereth
Everyone, the next-gen consoles aren't coming out too soon. It's 2003 now. It will soon be 2004...then a solid year after that, 2005. Then almost a full year after that (end of 2005) is when the FIRST next-gen consoles are supposed to debut. The PS2, GC, and XBox still have almost two years ahead of them. They're following the typical console rule: 5 years. Most gaming consoles last 5 years before they are replaced, and this is going the same for the current systems.

2005 and 2006 is a great schedule for the next-gen consoles. PS2 is getting aged now. It came out in 2000! A 2006 release date for PS3 would make the PS2 SIX years old by then. That's longer than the PS1 lasted.

GC2 and XBX2 are rumored to release in late 2005 which would put them at the 4-year mark which I agree is a little early. I honestly think GC2 and XBX 2 will be pushed into 2006 as well.

-Lasereth

I agree.

SiphonX · 12-05-2003, 12:13 PM

i heard nintendo wasn't making a successor to the GC. They were going to release some new kind of product next year alongside a newly updated GBA to compete w/ Sony's PSP.

IckUber · 12-05-2003, 07:51 PM

http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q4-2003/120403a.html

Lasereth · 12-05-2003, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by SiphonX
i heard nintendo wasn't making a successor to the GC. They were going to release some new kind of product next year alongside a newly updated GBA to compete w/ Sony's PSP.

Quote:

Originally posted by IckUber
http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q4-2003/120403a.html

This is the "big announcement" Nintendo has been rumored to...umm, announce, early next year. There will be a GC2; I know that this is confirmed (came from Miyamoto's mouth). I wonder how, or better yet, WHY, Nintendo is releasing another portable system after the GBA. The SP hasn't been out long enough!

-Lasereth

hulk · 12-05-2003, 08:30 PM

Nintendo are planning to release the GC2 before any Microsoft or Sony release their consoles. From what I know, they're still using modified PowerPC chips from IBM, and ATi graphics chips. Oh wait, so is the next X-Box. *cough* =D The new portable system was designed for China, and it's basically a system that plays N64-type games downloaded from stores.

Lasereth · 12-05-2003, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hulk
The new portable system was designed for China, and it's basically a system that plays N64-type games downloaded from stores.

Can you find info on that? I wanna read up on it. This is the first I've heard of it, and I usually know at least the big announcements in the industry. I'm not sure EGM even has this covered! Any links?

-Lasereth

Mr.Deflok · 12-05-2003, 08:55 PM

I've heard the same, they definately don't want to alienate customers so shortly after the SP (which alienated standard GBA users).

BTW, anyone know what the N5 is? I heard this name a while back, could it be the name of the new Nintendo? 1NES 2SNES 3N64 4NGC 5??? makes sense... kinda.

GakFace · 12-06-2003, 08:40 AM

well they called the Cube ... "Dolphin" so N5 would just be the code name...

hulk · 12-06-2003, 09:14 AM

Yeah, so don't get too worked up about what they're gonna call the thing =D
IMO, I think that the Panasonic Q-style is the way to go. It has DVD playback, but keeps the smaller Cube discs for gaming, completely eradicating piracy. Pretty swank =D. Of course, they could always do with some larger discs....

Ganguro · 12-06-2003, 09:38 AM

The hardware out in China is to help combat priating.. It's a good idea in general, but im hesitant to see a system like this work well.

Anywho.. here is a link
iQue info

and pictures for the lazy ones:

Box Art

iQue to GCN controller size comparison

iQue 64MB flash memory stick

the console itself in hand

Game "Refill Kiosk" in a store

Ganguro · 12-06-2003, 09:54 AM

oye.. piracy isnt eradicated for the cube per se, it's just harder than hell to do. For instance.. i myself have been developing for the GCN for a few months now, If i wanted to i could very "easily" get into pirated games.. but i dont want to because that is illegal. Hell.. im not even sure if developing homebrew games is quite legal.. but since im not selling anything (or even remotely close toa finished product) im not to worried about it

I t's mroe of a portfolio peice, and something im personally interested in. I figured instead of waiting for a game to be developed that has features i want, i'd just make it.

exile · 12-06-2003, 09:54 AM

I just read some info on the PSX, and man that thing will be expensive, 700-900 bucks a shot

there is also some talk that Nintendo might release the Cube squared before xb, and ps2 so there not last again..

X

Lasereth · 12-06-2003, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by exile
there is also some talk that Nintendo might release the Cube squared before xb, and ps2 so there not last again..

I mentioned this above, and there is indeed a huge rumor about it going around. EGM has said that the PS3 will be released after the GC2 and XBX2 (confirmed). Now it's up to Nintendo or Microsoft to make the first movie with the next-gen consoles.

-Lasereth

Ganguro · 12-06-2003, 10:27 AM

PSX info: (more info here)

Quote:

Sony has finally shown its PSX, the beefed up PlayStation 2 video-game machine that also works as a DVD recorder, analog TV, digital photo album and music player and goes on sale in Japan late this year for just over $700.

The offering from the Japanese electronics and entertainment giant underlines the intensifying competition in the industry to sell the idea of home digital entertainment that introduces computer functions from the office into the living room.

The PSX, slated for sale next year in the U.S. and European markets, took center stage at the Sony booth at CEATEC Japan, an annual major electronics show near Tokyo, where Sony's rivals are also showing off their wares. After decades of setting global trends with hits such as the Walkman, Sony has lost a bit of its shine lately, falling behind Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., of the Panasonic brand, in DVD recorders and Sharp Corp. in flat-panel TVs in global market share.

Sony chief executive Nobuyuki Idei was cautious about the prospects for the PSX and refused to give a sales target, although he called the PSX one of Sony's main new offerings. "We want to sell as much as possible," he said. "We want to create a new genre."

The PSX, which is about the size of the PlayStation 2, will sell in Japan late this year for 79,800 yen ($720) for the version with a 160 gigabyte hard disk drive that can record about 200 hours of DVD, and 99,800 yen ($900) for the 250 gigabyte version that records 325 hours of DVD.

The console:

the OS screens:

juanvaldes · 12-06-2003, 01:53 PM

too bad it got gutted.
Link

Important bits:
- HDD to DVD dubbing has been downgraded from 24x speed to 12x speed.

- CD-R playback will not be supported.

- DVD+RW playback will not be supported.

- MP3 file format will not be supported.

- TIFF and GIF file formats will not be supported.

- Sony's Cybershot movie format will not be supported.

12-04-2003, 11:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
MahlerIsGod At The Globe Showing Will How Its Done Location: London/Elysium	Gamecube II??? We have heard so much about the next Playstation and Xbox. Due out probably in 2005?. But I haven't heard anything about Nintendo's next console. Does anyone know when or if Nintendo is releasing their next console? I have an Xbox and I have decided that my next console will be a Gamecube but I don't want to buy one just a for a year's worth of gaming. I will most definintely buy the new Xbox when it comes out but I have gotten years of gaming out of the one I have now. Does anyone know about a new Gamecube? Thanks __________________ "But a work of art is a conscious human effort that has to do with communication. It is that or its nothing. When an accident is applauded as a work of art, when a cult grows up around the deliciousness of inadvertent beauty, we are in the presence of the greatest decadence the West has known in its history."

12-05-2003, 04:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
Moskie Pure Chewing Satisfaction Location: can i use bbcode [i]here[/i]?	are they really planning on calling it the "Gamecube 2"? Not only is it unoriginal in and of itself, but it's a scheme that Sony is already in the midst of. Not that Sony is the only company allowed to do this or anything... I just think that Nintendo would want to stress what (if anything) makes their next console better than Sony's. Mimicking (or at least mirroring) Sony's naming scheme would do just the opposite.... __________________ Greetings and salutations.

12-05-2003, 05:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ganguro Army of Me	Mahler, if the console has games you like for it, just buy it now.. It's not like those games on the market are going to dissapear or anything.. Plus the closer to launch of the new console, the cheaper the current software will get. Well.. in theory.. Last edited by Ganguro; 12-05-2003 at 05:52 AM..

12-05-2003, 07:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	I know that the GC2 and the XBox2 are going to release before the PS3. This is the first time Sony hasn't had the initiative in the console launch, so things may be different this next generation of consoles. Apparently Sony's Cell Technology is harder to develop than they thought. I believe Sony has said that the PS3 is probably late 2005 or 2006 launch. I do know that there's a VERY big chance of it playing PS1, PS2, PSP, and PS3 games (source: EGM). -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

12-05-2003, 07:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
t3m3st Vroom! Location: Toronto	I would think they would want to limit the next system's association with the gamecube to get away from that image. Don't get me wrong, I love my 'cube, but not everyone else does __________________ I do it for the rare drops

12-05-2003, 12:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
BulletCatcher Crazy Location: America's Outback	Take a look look HERE for some information about the GameCube 2. Not a whole lot of info but they do have links to other rumor sites.

12-05-2003, 04:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
BulletCatcher Crazy Location: America's Outback	Look at their track record so far. Nintendo Entertainment System, Super Nintendo, Nintendo 64 / GameBoy, GameBoy Color, GameBoy Advance...

12-05-2003, 07:24 AM	#9 (permalink)
quest1mark Insane	i think that its too soon to bring out new consoles. just strive on making new games for the ones already out. __________________ Best told at a place called...the TFP. on a quest...

12-05-2003, 07:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
Moskie Pure Chewing Satisfaction Location: can i use bbcode [i]here[/i]?	I also think it's a bit soon to start bringing out new consoles. Does anyone feel like their current console is aging? I sure don't... But if they do come out in the next year or so, one thing I would hope to see in the next generation consoles is backwards compatibility, like Sony did with the PS2. That would at least extend the lives of the current consoles a bit. __________________ Greetings and salutations.

12-05-2003, 09:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	Everyone, the next-gen consoles aren't coming out too soon. It's 2003 now. It will soon be 2004...then a solid year after that, 2005. Then almost a full year after that (end of 2005) is when the FIRST next-gen consoles are supposed to debut. The PS2, GC, and XBox still have almost two years ahead of them. They're following the typical console rule: 5 years. Most gaming consoles last 5 years before they are replaced, and this is going the same for the current systems. 2005 and 2006 is a great schedule for the next-gen consoles. PS2 is getting aged now. It came out in 2000! A 2006 release date for PS3 would make the PS2 SIX years old by then. That's longer than the PS1 lasted. GC2 and XBX2 are rumored to release in late 2005 which would put them at the 4-year mark which I agree is a little early. I honestly think GC2 and XBX 2 will be pushed into 2006 as well. -Lasereth __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

12-05-2003, 12:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
SiphonX Crazy Location: Miami Beach, Fl	i heard nintendo wasn't making a successor to the GC. They were going to release some new kind of product next year alongside a newly updated GBA to compete w/ Sony's PSP. __________________ /Knowledge is Power/

12-05-2003, 07:51 PM	#15 (permalink)
IckUber Funran Location: Norman, OK	http://www.rpgamer.com/news/Q4-2003/120403a.html __________________ How much is y'all Piolkles?

12-05-2003, 08:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
hulk C'mon, just blow it. Location: Perth, Australia	Nintendo are planning to release the GC2 before any Microsoft or Sony release their consoles. From what I know, they're still using modified PowerPC chips from IBM, and ATi graphics chips. Oh wait, so is the next X-Box. cough =D The new portable system was designed for China, and it's basically a system that plays N64-type games downloaded from stores. __________________ "'There's a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,' says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex." -- From an IGN game review.

12-05-2003, 08:55 PM	#19 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	I've heard the same, they definately don't want to alienate customers so shortly after the SP (which alienated standard GBA users). BTW, anyone know what the N5 is? I heard this name a while back, could it be the name of the new Nintendo? 1NES 2SNES 3N64 4NGC 5??? makes sense... kinda.

12-06-2003, 08:40 AM	#20 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	well they called the Cube ... "Dolphin" so N5 would just be the code name... __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

12-06-2003, 09:14 AM	#21 (permalink)
hulk C'mon, just blow it. Location: Perth, Australia	Yeah, so don't get too worked up about what they're gonna call the thing =D IMO, I think that the Panasonic Q-style is the way to go. It has DVD playback, but keeps the smaller Cube discs for gaming, completely eradicating piracy. Pretty swank =D. Of course, they could always do with some larger discs.... __________________ "'There's a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,' says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex." -- From an IGN game review.

12-06-2003, 09:38 AM	#22 (permalink)
Ganguro Army of Me	The hardware out in China is to help combat priating.. It's a good idea in general, but im hesitant to see a system like this work well. Anywho.. here is a link iQue info and pictures for the lazy ones: Box Art iQue to GCN controller size comparison iQue 64MB flash memory stick the console itself in hand Game "Refill Kiosk" in a store Last edited by Ganguro; 12-06-2003 at 09:43 AM..

12-06-2003, 09:54 AM	#23 (permalink)
Ganguro Army of Me	oye.. piracy isnt eradicated for the cube per se, it's just harder than hell to do. For instance.. i myself have been developing for the GCN for a few months now, If i wanted to i could very "easily" get into pirated games.. but i dont want to because that is illegal. Hell.. im not even sure if developing homebrew games is quite legal.. but since im not selling anything (or even remotely close toa finished product) im not to worried about it I t's mroe of a portfolio peice, and something im personally interested in. I figured instead of waiting for a game to be developed that has features i want, i'd just make it. Last edited by Ganguro; 12-06-2003 at 10:14 AM..

12-06-2003, 09:54 AM	#24 (permalink)
exile Crazy	I just read some info on the PSX, and man that thing will be expensive, 700-900 bucks a shot there is also some talk that Nintendo might release the Cube squared before xb, and ps2 so there not last again.. X

12-06-2003, 01:53 PM	#27 (permalink)
juanvaldes Banned Location: shittown, CA	too bad it got gutted. Link Important bits: - HDD to DVD dubbing has been downgraded from 24x speed to 12x speed. - CD-R playback will not be supported. - DVD+RW playback will not be supported. - MP3 file format will not be supported. - TIFF and GIF file formats will not be supported. - Sony's Cybershot movie format will not be supported.