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Xazy · 07-09-2007, 04:09 AM

Next month a new 80 gig version of PS3, will go on sale for $599. I believe starting today the 60 gig version was reduced to $499. I am not surprised about this since the Wii has continued to outsell PS3, and there is talk of Microsoft decreasing their prices (and the Xbox Elite sells for $479).

Esoteric · 07-09-2007, 04:43 AM

This should probably be in Tilted Gaming. Anyway, I think this will be good for Sony and this 80 gig version will also come with a retail copy of "MotorStorm." I think they'll be announcing all this at E3 and I also see M$ following in their footsteps, possibly dropping the price on the Pro 360 package.

Prophecy · 07-11-2007, 11:44 PM

1) I wonder if the $499 60 gig version of the PS3 is going to be dropped eventually like Sony dropped the 20 gig version. If you don't care about MotorStorm you can buy the 60gig version and upgrade to an 80 gig hard drive for your PS3 for cheaper than $100 or for slightly more than $100 you can get 160 gigs.

Also, the new $599 system is going to use software emulation to play all PS2 titles. It's supposed to have less backwards compatibility than the 60 gig version currently for sale in North America. That’s another reason to go with the $499 version if you want a PS3 imo.

2) M$ hasn't announced a price cut and I'm willing to bet money they won't till after the launch of their biggest title(s): Halo 3 and GTA IV. Let those games move units at full retail price and then cut $50-100 of the system in time for the holidays.

Lasereth · 07-12-2007, 03:17 AM

If I had the money I'd be buying one now with the price cut.

Dr Mario Kart · 07-12-2007, 04:33 PM

Dropping the original $500 SKU and then re-adding it doesnt really seem like a legitimate price drop. Its more like adding value.

Still, I really would rather not reinforce the idea of $499 as a legitimate price point for a game machine. Thats still way the hell out there.

Lasereth · 07-12-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Mario Kart

Thats still way the hell out there.

Not really. Adjusted for inflation, the NES would cost over $400 now. Adjusted for inflation, the PS1 would cost $400 now. The PS3 is $100 more, and look at what it comes with compared to earlier consoles. PS1 game support, PS2 game support, plays PS3 games, plays all DVDs, plays bluray movies, has a built in web browser, a 60 GB hard drive, wireless controller as a default, true hi-def support, the firmware now supports DVD upscaling, etc. the list goes on.

Since videogames were released, videogame prices have technically went down due to the prices never really going up considering inflation. I still remember paying $80 for SNES games in the early 90s and $70-$80 for N64 games in the mid to late nineties. Game prices aren't that high now, 10 years later, after inflation has already lessed the value of a dollar by another 25%.

The only reason the PS3 seems so damned expensive is because its competitors are cheaper. Nintendo packed a motion controller on top of an overclocked Gamecube and sold it for $250. That makes $500 and definitely $600 look absurd even though the $250 pricepoint is really what's absurd.

Dr Mario Kart · 07-13-2007, 12:23 AM

Turns out this price drop is fake. Its really a clearance of the 60 gig inventory, then its no more and the only thing thats left is the 80 gig motorstorm bundle.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=26704

Confirmed by Kaz video:

http://atvs.vg.no/player/?id=10235

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Originally Posted by at 1:41

Well, again, just from a hardware perspective, the 499 dollar price adjustment that we did for the 60 GB version, for the american market, uh, we're no longer in production for that product, so uh once that product is gone from the retailer shelves, then we're back to the $599 SKU only, so it's not like we have a two price strategy here in the US market. We found out very early on, you know, consumers react mostly to just having one SKU as opposed to two.

Prophecy · 07-13-2007, 06:18 AM

When I saw this, I died laughing. I thought Sony had finally changed their mirandus operandi. However, in the end I'm not surprised. Still $100 is a nice drop while it lasts.

Edit: Maybe once the 60gig all clear out the 80gig will be dropped in price to $499. Sounds smart to me, but I'd be pissed if I was one of the people that bought MotorStorm for $100...

bookerV · 07-13-2007, 06:27 AM

I think the PS3 is worth every penny. I now own box the 360 and the PS3, my 360 is broken (obviously, since so many of them do) but I'll be sending it in for repairs since they extended the warranty on them. I would have to say that I prefer the PS3 in terms of pure hardware. It is just a better piece of equipment. The games are coming for it. The end of this year and 2008 looks GREAT for the PS3. I don't think I will be using my 360 for anything other than Halo 3.

For those of you out there on the fence I would definitely take advantage of the price drop while you can. Funny enough, I bought my PS3 a month or two ago from the Sony Store and they were having a sale on them so I already got mine for $50 off. I found that quite surprising, but oh well!

Prophecy · 07-13-2007, 06:49 AM

2008 is months away, mean while MS and Nintendo are launching AAA exclusive titles this year. I can hold off on the PS3 for the next price drop or two and not be bothered one bit. Heck, by then the AAA Sony titles should have dropped in price too.

jvwgtr · 07-13-2007, 08:34 AM

The PS3 is great for so many reasons...it's a great value as a Blu-Ray player, which is what I mainly use mine for. The new systems updates let you use the PS3 as a wireless media center now, which is also awesome (I know the 360 has similar capability). It's just a great machine - I would buy one again in a heartbeat.

Esoteric · 07-13-2007, 08:35 AM

There are many other games that look to be incredible that are coming for the 360 besides Halo 3. Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, BioShock, GTA IV to name a few. I'm going to be broke this winter.

Prophecy · 07-13-2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jvwgtr

The PS3 is great for so many reasons...it's a great value as a Blu-Ray player, which is what I mainly use mine for...

You just named the main sticking point for and against the PS3: the Blu Ray drive. I don't have a HD TV and I could careless about HD-DVD & Blu Ray movies. For people like you that want HD movies it is a great system/purchase.

However, the PS3 is supposed to be a games console first and then movies and multi-media second. As long as the main focus is on "It's a multi-media center and Blu Ray movie player" and not video games, I don't want one. I'm sure there are plenty of people that feel just like me.

Edit: *Crosses fingers for another price drop this holiday season.*

Dr Mario Kart · 07-13-2007, 01:58 PM

I look at my game machines like game machines. I dont want BR playback, I dont care about multimedia functionality, online functionality like DLC or online multiplayer. With the PS3, I'm not seeing an incredible value for just popping in a game and playing it - A game that is the same old game but with fresh coats of light bloom and HD texturing.

I'll remind you that if you look at history, tech for the value has never, ever had a positive relationship with marketshare success for gaming consoles.

Esoteric · 07-14-2007, 05:47 AM

How can you not care about online multiplayer? It's such a huge part of gaming now.

Derwood · 07-24-2007, 10:38 AM

$499 sounds like a lot, but you're probably getting over $1000 worth of hardware for $500

YaWhateva · 07-24-2007, 02:31 PM

Arg! Now I want a PS3! Just when I was going to go and buy a 360 or upgrade my computer. Well if I do get a 360 or a PS3 (I hope I will get both eventually)I need to buy a new TV as well.

My PS2 finally gave out recently, and I still have PS2 games I want to play, but I doubt I will be buying a new PS2, so maybe the PS3 is the way to go...

biznatch · 07-24-2007, 02:35 PM

Who cares about 1000 dollars of hardware, though? Most of the people who say they love their PS3 feel that they have to justify themselves by saying things like "well, blu-ray" ... "..HD" ... "media center is teh hawt!!".
jvwgtr's post makes absolutely no mention of video games.
Perhaps the PS3 is most loved as a home theater, not a video game console.
This is not to say I don't think it doesn't have potential. It obviously has the capability to run amazing games, with all the hardware packed in there.

When the great games start coming out, GTA4, MGS4, etc, I'll consider the PS3 more of a gaming console, and it'll probably be more succesful. But right now, none of the games seem to justify the $600 pricetag, even though the hardware might.

bookerV · 07-26-2007, 05:50 AM

I definitely agree that not enough games are out for the PS3 just yet, however I feel that in the long run the PS3 will be the better of the big 2 (360 & PS3) in terms of games. There are a lot of great games coming out for the PS3 in the next few months. Most of the biggest games are on both consoles but the best exclusives (IMO) are coming for the PS3. It's just too bad that they aren't out already...

As for the arguement that it isn't valid to say that the PS3 has all kinds of other great features to justify the pricetag, I think that is foolish not to mention all the additional functionality you get for the money. The 360 is only about $100 cheaper and you don't get all of that stuff. IF the 360 came with all those features you would be saying the same thing. The fact is the PS3 has all of the game playing ability AND all the other stuff.

Keep in mind that I have both consoles so I am not really biased one way or the other, I just think the PS3 is the better machine. If I had to choose only one it would be the PS3 hands down...

rockzilla · 07-27-2007, 04:01 PM

I'm still going to wait for the next price drop before I pick up a PS3. The most important reason is that I don't have $500 to spend on a new console (especially since I picked up a Wii in April and I can't justify buying another console for at least a couple more months). My PS2 works just fine as a DVD player and last-generation games are still fun.
There won't be any must-buy PS3 titles for me until MGS4 and FF13 come out next year. By then, I'm hoping that I can snag a PS3 for $400 or maybe less.
I really want to play Little Big Planet too.

Prophecy · 07-27-2007, 09:22 PM

I remember reading Sony is talking about the Playstation division should be breaking even by March 2008. The PS3 is currently costing a loss $200 per console sold. So... with those two things in mind, I don't see a price drop/clearance sale again anytime soon.

07-09-2007, 04:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
Xazy People in masks cannot be trusted Location: NYC	New playstation version to go on sale Next month a new 80 gig version of PS3, will go on sale for $599. I believe starting today the 60 gig version was reduced to $499. I am not surprised about this since the Wii has continued to outsell PS3, and there is talk of Microsoft decreasing their prices (and the Xbox Elite sells for $479).

07-09-2007, 04:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
Esoteric Tired Location: Florida	This should probably be in Tilted Gaming. Anyway, I think this will be good for Sony and this 80 gig version will also come with a retail copy of "MotorStorm." I think they'll be announcing all this at E3 and I also see M$ following in their footsteps, possibly dropping the price on the Pro 360 package. __________________ From a head full of pressure rests the senses that I clutch Made a date with Divinity, but she wouldn't let me fuck I got touched by a hazy shaded, God help me change Caught a rush on the floor from the life in my veins

07-11-2007, 11:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Prophecy Oracle & Apollyon Location: Limbus Patrum	1) I wonder if the $499 60 gig version of the PS3 is going to be dropped eventually like Sony dropped the 20 gig version. If you don't care about MotorStorm you can buy the 60gig version and upgrade to an 80 gig hard drive for your PS3 for cheaper than $100 or for slightly more than $100 you can get 160 gigs. Also, the new $599 system is going to use software emulation to play all PS2 titles. It's supposed to have less backwards compatibility than the 60 gig version currently for sale in North America. That’s another reason to go with the $499 version if you want a PS3 imo. 2) M$ hasn't announced a price cut and I'm willing to bet money they won't till after the launch of their biggest title(s): Halo 3 and GTA IV. Let those games move units at full retail price and then cut $50-100 of the system in time for the holidays. __________________ La Disciplina È La Mia Spada, La Fede È Il Mio Schermo, Non salti Ciecamente In Incertezza, E Potete Raccogliere Le Ricompense. Last edited by Prophecy; 07-11-2007 at 11:46 PM..

07-12-2007, 03:17 AM	#4 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	If I had the money I'd be buying one now with the price cut. __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

07-13-2007, 06:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
Prophecy Oracle & Apollyon Location: Limbus Patrum	When I saw this, I died laughing. I thought Sony had finally changed their mirandus operandi. However, in the end I'm not surprised. Still $100 is a nice drop while it lasts. Edit: Maybe once the 60gig all clear out the 80gig will be dropped in price to $499. Sounds smart to me, but I'd be pissed if I was one of the people that bought MotorStorm for $100... __________________ La Disciplina È La Mia Spada, La Fede È Il Mio Schermo, Non salti Ciecamente In Incertezza, E Potete Raccogliere Le Ricompense. Last edited by Prophecy; 07-13-2007 at 06:45 AM..

07-12-2007, 04:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dr Mario Kart Tilted Location: Austin, Texas	Dropping the original $500 SKU and then re-adding it doesnt really seem like a legitimate price drop. Its more like adding value. Still, I really would rather not reinforce the idea of $499 as a legitimate price point for a game machine. Thats still way the hell out there.

07-13-2007, 06:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
bookerV Addict Location: Ontario, Canada	I think the PS3 is worth every penny. I now own box the 360 and the PS3, my 360 is broken (obviously, since so many of them do) but I'll be sending it in for repairs since they extended the warranty on them. I would have to say that I prefer the PS3 in terms of pure hardware. It is just a better piece of equipment. The games are coming for it. The end of this year and 2008 looks GREAT for the PS3. I don't think I will be using my 360 for anything other than Halo 3. For those of you out there on the fence I would definitely take advantage of the price drop while you can. Funny enough, I bought my PS3 a month or two ago from the Sony Store and they were having a sale on them so I already got mine for $50 off. I found that quite surprising, but oh well! __________________ "That's why you're the judge and I'm the law-talking guy." Lionel Hutz

07-13-2007, 06:49 AM	#10 (permalink)
Prophecy Oracle & Apollyon Location: Limbus Patrum	2008 is months away, mean while MS and Nintendo are launching AAA exclusive titles this year. I can hold off on the PS3 for the next price drop or two and not be bothered one bit. Heck, by then the AAA Sony titles should have dropped in price too. __________________ La Disciplina È La Mia Spada, La Fede È Il Mio Schermo, Non salti Ciecamente In Incertezza, E Potete Raccogliere Le Ricompense.

07-13-2007, 08:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
jvwgtr Completely bananas Location: Florida	The PS3 is great for so many reasons...it's a great value as a Blu-Ray player, which is what I mainly use mine for. The new systems updates let you use the PS3 as a wireless media center now, which is also awesome (I know the 360 has similar capability). It's just a great machine - I would buy one again in a heartbeat.

07-13-2007, 08:35 AM	#12 (permalink)
Esoteric Tired Location: Florida	There are many other games that look to be incredible that are coming for the 360 besides Halo 3. Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, BioShock, GTA IV to name a few. I'm going to be broke this winter. __________________ From a head full of pressure rests the senses that I clutch Made a date with Divinity, but she wouldn't let me fuck I got touched by a hazy shaded, God help me change Caught a rush on the floor from the life in my veins

07-13-2007, 01:58 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dr Mario Kart Tilted Location: Austin, Texas	I look at my game machines like game machines. I dont want BR playback, I dont care about multimedia functionality, online functionality like DLC or online multiplayer. With the PS3, I'm not seeing an incredible value for just popping in a game and playing it - A game that is the same old game but with fresh coats of light bloom and HD texturing. I'll remind you that if you look at history, tech for the value has never, ever had a positive relationship with marketshare success for gaming consoles.

07-14-2007, 05:47 AM	#15 (permalink)
Esoteric Tired Location: Florida	How can you not care about online multiplayer? It's such a huge part of gaming now. __________________ From a head full of pressure rests the senses that I clutch Made a date with Divinity, but she wouldn't let me fuck I got touched by a hazy shaded, God help me change Caught a rush on the floor from the life in my veins

07-24-2007, 10:38 AM	#16 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	$499 sounds like a lot, but you're probably getting over $1000 worth of hardware for $500

07-24-2007, 02:31 PM	#17 (permalink)
YaWhateva Friend Location: New Mexico	Arg! Now I want a PS3! Just when I was going to go and buy a 360 or upgrade my computer. Well if I do get a 360 or a PS3 (I hope I will get both eventually)I need to buy a new TV as well. My PS2 finally gave out recently, and I still have PS2 games I want to play, but I doubt I will be buying a new PS2, so maybe the PS3 is the way to go... __________________ “If the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again.” - Bill O'Reilly "This is my United States of Whateva!"

07-24-2007, 02:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
biznatch Junkie Location: France	Who cares about 1000 dollars of hardware, though? Most of the people who say they love their PS3 feel that they have to justify themselves by saying things like "well, blu-ray" ... "..HD" ... "media center is teh hawt!!". jvwgtr's post makes absolutely no mention of video games. Perhaps the PS3 is most loved as a home theater, not a video game console. This is not to say I don't think it doesn't have potential. It obviously has the capability to run amazing games, with all the hardware packed in there. When the great games start coming out, GTA4, MGS4, etc, I'll consider the PS3 more of a gaming console, and it'll probably be more succesful. But right now, none of the games seem to justify the $600 pricetag, even though the hardware might. __________________ Check it out: The Open Source/Freeware/Gratis Software Thread

07-26-2007, 05:50 AM	#19 (permalink)
bookerV Addict Location: Ontario, Canada	I definitely agree that not enough games are out for the PS3 just yet, however I feel that in the long run the PS3 will be the better of the big 2 (360 & PS3) in terms of games. There are a lot of great games coming out for the PS3 in the next few months. Most of the biggest games are on both consoles but the best exclusives (IMO) are coming for the PS3. It's just too bad that they aren't out already... As for the arguement that it isn't valid to say that the PS3 has all kinds of other great features to justify the pricetag, I think that is foolish not to mention all the additional functionality you get for the money. The 360 is only about $100 cheaper and you don't get all of that stuff. IF the 360 came with all those features you would be saying the same thing. The fact is the PS3 has all of the game playing ability AND all the other stuff. Keep in mind that I have both consoles so I am not really biased one way or the other, I just think the PS3 is the better machine. If I had to choose only one it would be the PS3 hands down... __________________ "That's why you're the judge and I'm the law-talking guy." Lionel Hutz

07-27-2007, 04:01 PM	#20 (permalink)
rockzilla Junkie Location: The Kitchen	I'm still going to wait for the next price drop before I pick up a PS3. The most important reason is that I don't have $500 to spend on a new console (especially since I picked up a Wii in April and I can't justify buying another console for at least a couple more months). My PS2 works just fine as a DVD player and last-generation games are still fun. There won't be any must-buy PS3 titles for me until MGS4 and FF13 come out next year. By then, I'm hoping that I can snag a PS3 for $400 or maybe less. I really want to play Little Big Planet too.

07-27-2007, 09:22 PM	#21 (permalink)
Prophecy Oracle & Apollyon Location: Limbus Patrum	I remember reading Sony is talking about the Playstation division should be breaking even by March 2008. The PS3 is currently costing a loss $200 per console sold. So... with those two things in mind, I don't see a price drop/clearance sale again anytime soon. __________________ La Disciplina È La Mia Spada, La Fede È Il Mio Schermo, Non salti Ciecamente In Incertezza, E Potete Raccogliere Le Ricompense.