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LoganSnake · 03-30-2007, 07:29 AM

More screenshots and a 720p trailer here

My favorite city in the franchise is back and on top of it all, the main character is a Russian people smuggler which means....RUSSIAN MAFIA!

Needless to say, I'm excited.

MexicanOnABike · 03-30-2007, 08:10 AM

I'm definitely exited about this game! If they keep all the awesome gameplay and storytelling, but fix the errors like :
long distances between missions
graphics
etc..

Russians in liberty city. ooh! this will be a great game. (waiting for the pc version of course)...

one thing i can't see in the preview/screenshots is the time era. last games were in the 90s, 80s etc... when is this ? it seems like late 90s to early 2000s.

Kadath · 03-30-2007, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MexicanOnABike

I'm definitely exited about this game! If they keep all the awesome gameplay and storytelling, but fix the errors like :
long distances between missions

I would go even further and say they need to control the scope of the game. My biggest problem with GTA:SA was there was too much going on and it only dipped lightly into each area, so you didn't get the feeling of control and immersion like in GTA3 and VC. Hopefully now that we're back to a single city we can have a less scattered storyline.

biznatch · 03-30-2007, 01:30 PM

Wow. Finally got my internet back (can you believe that it stopped working the day that the trailer came out?). I'm extremely impressed, and can honestly say I can't wait for this game.
Liberty City is cool. I think they edited the layout and general shape of it, or at least expanded it quite a bit. At this point, it's impossible to tell though. Also, looks like they've re-done Times Square, which is awesome, and the MetLife building, as well as the Statue of Liberty.
Apparently there is a possibility that they will release it for Wii. I seriously hope they do. If not, I hope the PS3 prices will drop in time for MGS3 and GTAIV.

Lasereth · 03-30-2007, 02:01 PM

That will NOT run in the Wii. Period.

This game looks amazing. I've played and completed GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas and I'm ready for more. Main character looks badass and those graphics are truly next-gen. They'll have to slaughter it to make it run on the Wii.

Redjake · 03-30-2007, 04:15 PM

WOW that looks AMAZING!!!!!!! And yeah, there's no way that will run on Wii without dropping textures and view distance dramatically......

That was just awesome. Great music and feel to the trailer. I can't wait.

Plaid13 · 03-31-2007, 08:36 AM

Hope they dont take too long to put this on the pc But when they do it should be fun. I hope they stay away from the flying missions this time. And real far away from the RC flying missions. I really liked the way san andraes was spread out but i do think they need more of the main missions in each area and more reasons to stick around that spot to do all the side missions. But it was nice being able to leave the city and just go offroading or get on the highways for a long drive.

I would really like to see vehicles that dont disapear. Maybe just legaly owned ones. Like if you buy one from a dealer and modify it all you want it wont disapear on you if you take it to a mission and need to drive some other car for a while and leave it there. Always bugged me that i had nice cars that would disapear if i tried to use them on missions.

biznatch · 03-31-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Plaid13

Hope they dont take too long to put this on the pc But when they do it should be fun. I hope they stay away from the flying missions this time. And real far away from the RC flying missions. I really liked the way san andraes was spread out but i do think they need more of the main missions in each area and more reasons to stick around that spot to do all the side missions. But it was nice being able to leave the city and just go offroading or get on the highways for a long drive.

I would really like to see vehicles that dont disapear. Maybe just legaly owned ones. Like if you buy one from a dealer and modify it all you want it wont disapear on you if you take it to a mission and need to drive some other car for a while and leave it there. Always bugged me that i had nice cars that would disapear if i tried to use them on missions.

I agree. I didn't mind most of the flying missions, but some were a drag. And everything RC in GTA has always sucked, IMO. I wonder if they consider it to be a trademark thing now...I hope not.

I've come to accept the fact that it won't come out for Wii, and even if it did, I don't think I'd want to play a port that would reduce everything that makes this game beautiful. I better start getting some serious income now for a PS3, because even though I'm interested in 2 games for it, they're the 2 games that I want the most right now (MGS4, GTA IV).

CyCo PL · 04-01-2007, 11:08 AM

I just hope they have multiplayer that doesn't require some kind of hack. And I enjoyed the flying missions, they're easy to control with the PS2 controller (which is how they're meant to be controlled). They're difficult, but not impossible, which is how every game should be.

sweetcha0s · 04-04-2007, 05:49 PM

Liberty City o.O?

Wow, is this a new vice city game? or is it that one from the psp that they put on to the ps2?

YaWhateva · 04-04-2007, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetcha0s

Liberty City o.O?

Wow, is this a new vice city game? or is it that one from the psp that they put on to the ps2?

It's from the psp version and much before also. Liberty City is from the first GTA, GTA 3 and GTA Liberty City Stories.

Brightwater · 04-07-2007, 08:53 PM

I'm pretty excited about GTA 4. It will be nice to combine the GTA experience with much fancier graphics.
I don't know if I'd want to play a GTA game on the Wii. Would I have to pump the controller up and down to beat people senseless and steal their money?

Destrox · 04-10-2007, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetcha0s

Liberty City o.O?

Wow, is this a new vice city game? or is it that one from the psp that they put on to the ps2?

I'm honestly surprised to see this being said.

I thought Liberty City would have at least been known from GTA3, and 50/50 known from GTA1.

I mean GTA1 started it all, and had all 3 cities within. Liberty City, SA, and VC.

Heck I still have my maps from the PC edition of GTA 1.

CyCo PL · 04-10-2007, 03:49 PM

Some new info on the game:

http://planetgrandtheftauto.gamespy.....php?id=118912

# Niko Bellic is the main character.
# Multi-player will be included, but no details yet.
# Liberty City is the only location in the game.
# The Xbox 360 version was the version shown to the magazine editors.
# There were no planes in the skies of the demo that the magazine editors saw, and it seems that there will not be airplanes in the game. Other forms of air travel should not be ruled out.
# The MetLife building now bears the name Getalife, the Statue of Liberty is now the Statue of Happiness, and DUMBO (Down Under the Manhattan Bridge Overpass) is called BOABO (Beneath the Offramp of the Algonquin Bridge Overpass).
# Dan Houser of Rockstar Games said that New York City "is an environment we felt had never been done to the level we were envisioning it in a video game. From looking at all of the locations, this was the one that really stood out to us, and really had that impact. It has all of these iconic things that you couldn't put into a game before."
# Within Grand Theft Auto IV, Rockstar North has recreated four of the five boroughs that make up New York City, as well as a section of New Jersey. In the GTA universe, Brooklyn has been transformed to Broker, Manhattan has mutated into Algonquin, Queens is now Dukes, The Bronx is Bohan, and New Jersey has become Alderney.
# It's a smaller geographical mass than San Andreas, but not an inch of this world is wasted or dedicated to vast stretches of country or desert. It's a tightly packed metropolis that captures the eye with its decades of world-class architecture, sun-blocking towers, and extraordinary walks of life.
# The city is brought to life with an amazing level of realism. Sunlight glistens beautifully off of glasswork, illuminates the intricate detailing of century old brick, and even reveals just how realistic an ordinary bag of trash can look. As the sun begins to set, the city takes on a whole different appearance. Buildings that were once eye-popping attractions slowly become ominous obelisks. As any New Yorker will tell you, there's a big difference between New York during the day and New York at night. Liberty City will perfectly capture that quality.
# Niko Bellic's home is in Eastern Europe, and he likely may never have traveled to Liberty City if it wasn't for his cousin Roman. With life not working out in the homeland, "Bellic turns up in Liberty City because he's been receiving e-mails from his cousin Roman, that read like: 'I live this amazing life, it's the American Dream come true. I have two women. I have four hot tubs. I have fifteen sports cars," Houser elaborates. "And [Bellic] believes it." His bid to flee his past for what he thought would be the greener pastures of America couldn't be any further from the truth. Roman has been lying to him. He isn't rich. He isn't popular. And he's actually in a load of trouble. He lied to his cousin to hide his own failures in life.
# Roman, Niko's cousin, is the only person that he knows in America. He serves as one of his main friends, motivations, and connections at the start of the game. Unlike San Andreas, players won't get a chance to see Bellic in his homeland. You will see his life unfold from the moment he steps into Liberty City.
# Niko is a "tough character" while Roman is a "friendly buffoon."

MexicanOnABike · 04-10-2007, 04:29 PM

nice! thanks for the info man!

Silvy · 04-11-2007, 03:58 AM

I also can't wait for this game.

I'm no console fan, but if they don't announce a PC version before or around launch, I'm getting myself a PS3!

I really expect this game to be awesome. I've yet to see a true in-game screenshot though....

biznatch · 04-11-2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Silvy

I also can't wait for this game.

I'm no console fan, but if they don't announce a PC version before or around launch, I'm getting myself a PS3!

I really expect this game to be awesome. I've yet to see a true in-game screenshot though....

Don't get a PS3. They never announce the newer GTA PC games before or around the launch of the console version, but eventually it just comes out. I am confident this one will eventually be sold for PC. Just be patient. Save 600 bucks and buy a real nice video card, to be able to handle this game when it comes out for PC.

Silvy · 04-11-2007, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by biznatch

Don't get a PS3. They never announce the newer GTA PC games before or around the launch of the console version, but eventually it just comes out. I am confident this one will eventually be sold for PC. Just be patient. Save 600 bucks and buy a real nice video card, to be able to handle this game when it comes out for PC.

Good points. Thing is, my PC is really ancient by todays standards and for any current game to run I will need to build a complete new system.

So I can either choose to buy a $600 console system or $2000 new PC.
Besides the price difference each option has their (dis)advantages, but the consoles have the advantage of a +/- 6 month advance on the GTA title ;-)

Seriously, I would really like a new PC and GTA is just the right reason (for me, my SO might think otherwise). Me considering a console (I've never really liked consoles) is more of a tribute to GTA than anything else...

hiredgun · 04-11-2007, 08:53 PM

The really strange thing is this: I am of course familiar with Liberty City from GTA3, but I never before realized that it was supposed to be some sort of analogue for New York. So I was watching the trailer just now and I thought to myself, "what the hell, this isn't Liberty City, this is New York! Look, the Statue of Liberty! The Brooklyn Bridge! Times Square!"

I don't remember seeing stand-ins for any of those things in GTA3. Am I missing something?

biznatch · 04-12-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hiredgun

The really strange thing is this: I am of course familiar with Liberty City from GTA3, but I never before realized that it was supposed to be some sort of analogue for New York. So I was watching the trailer just now and I thought to myself, "what the hell, this isn't Liberty City, this is New York! Look, the Statue of Liberty! The Brooklyn Bridge! Times Square!"

I don't remember seeing stand-ins for any of those things in GTA3. Am I missing something?

The thing is, GTA 4 features an expanded version of the previous Liberty Cities.
Things like new buildings and monuments are now there. Now there was something similar to Times Square in GTA3, if I remember correctly, but I'm not too sure anymore.
And now there's a New Jersey-ish area as well.

LoganSnake · 04-12-2007, 02:17 PM

New Game Informer scans here.

New info, right here:

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The protagonist's name is Niko Bellic - an Eastern European immigrant who has come to Liberty City to live the "American Dream."

The GTA 4 equivalent of the Statue of Liberty is called the Statue of Happiness, and DUMBO (Down Under the Manhattan Bridge Overpass) is known as BOABO (Beneath the Offramp of the Algonquin Bridge Overpass).
In Grand Theft Auto IV, Rockstar have recreated 4 of the 5 boroughs in New York, as well as part of New Jersey. Broker is the GTA IV equivalent of Brooklyn, Manhattan is now called Algonquin, Queens is now Dukes, the Bronx is Bohan, and New Jersey is Alderney. The map is smaller than San Andreas, but considerably more detailed. No countryside or desert, we are led to believe.

Pedestrians are far more realistic in GTAIV than in previous GTA games - they sit on benches, smoke cigarettes, read books and generally act like any real pedestrian would in the middle of a street.

The screenshots in the preview are not representative of the final quality of the graphics, Rockstar insist. The game will only look better as the release draws closer..

Niko was persuaded to move to Liberty City by his cousin Roman, who claimed to be living a wonderful life there with two beautiful women, fifteen sports cars, and lots of money etc, but he was infact telling a lie in order to hide his own failures. Roman is the only person you know in Liberty City at the beginning of the game, and he becomes one of your major connections at the start. Niko is a tough character whereas Roman is friendly. Roman is heavily in debt and a lot of people are after him - he needs Niko's support. They are constantly bickering.

The demo (which was played on Xbox 360) begins with Bellic standing inside of the taxi depot, which Roman operates in the borough of Broker in a converted industrial garage. Roman works at a cluttered desk in a shabby environment, and at this point the graphical improvements are extremely evident. Bellic walks to a brownstone house in Broker, where he pushes open the door and pulls out his pistol - the house however, is not occupied.

As Bellic walks, you can feel the weight behind each step he makes. Variations in the terrain cause realistic changes in the walking animation. The physics have also improved and character movements are more realistic.

Multiplayer in Grand Theft Auto 4 is set to be announced, though Rockstar are remaining tight-lipped about what it involves...

You can use a cellphone to call your contacts.

Apparently there are no planes because there is only one city in the game.

You have a lot of choice over what you want to do. You still have to take orders from people during missions, but you can also choose how you want to spend your time, e.g "I want to hang out with him, or her... I want to go see this guy 'cause he always has something to do..."

The story unfolds in a number of different ways. R* is giving people more freedom, more choice and more sense of control over their destiny - the structure of the storyline is quite different to previous games.

Looking nice.

CyCo PL · 04-13-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hiredgun

The really strange thing is this: I am of course familiar with Liberty City from GTA3, but I never before realized that it was supposed to be some sort of analogue for New York. So I was watching the trailer just now and I thought to myself, "what the hell, this isn't Liberty City, this is New York! Look, the Statue of Liberty! The Brooklyn Bridge! Times Square!"

I don't remember seeing stand-ins for any of those things in GTA3. Am I missing something?

I haven't played GTA3 in a while, but I know there is a Times Square type location on one of the islands, and "Staunton Island" is a pretty obvious play on Staten Island. Also, Vice City is supposed to be Miami, and the three cities in San Andreas (Los Santos, San Fierro, and Las Venturas) are supposed to be Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Las Vegas, respectively.

03-30-2007, 07:29 AM	#1 (permalink)
LoganSnake We work alone Location: Cake Town	This. Is. LIBERTY CITY!!! More screenshots and a 720p trailer here My favorite city in the franchise is back and on top of it all, the main character is a Russian people smuggler which means....RUSSIAN MAFIA! Needless to say, I'm excited. __________________ Maturity is knowing you were an idiot in the past. Wisdom is knowing that you'll be an idiot in the future. Common sense is knowing that you should try not to be an idiot now. - J. Jacques Last edited by LoganSnake; 03-30-2007 at 07:31 AM..

03-30-2007, 08:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
MexicanOnABike Location: up north	I'm definitely exited about this game! If they keep all the awesome gameplay and storytelling, but fix the errors like : long distances between missions graphics etc.. Russians in liberty city. ooh! this will be a great game. (waiting for the pc version of course)... one thing i can't see in the preview/screenshots is the time era. last games were in the 90s, 80s etc... when is this ? it seems like late 90s to early 2000s. __________________ - Movie Reviews - Ratings-

03-30-2007, 01:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
biznatch Junkie Location: France	Wow. Finally got my internet back (can you believe that it stopped working the day that the trailer came out?). I'm extremely impressed, and can honestly say I can't wait for this game. Liberty City is cool. I think they edited the layout and general shape of it, or at least expanded it quite a bit. At this point, it's impossible to tell though. Also, looks like they've re-done Times Square, which is awesome, and the MetLife building, as well as the Statue of Liberty. Apparently there is a possibility that they will release it for Wii. I seriously hope they do. If not, I hope the PS3 prices will drop in time for MGS3 and GTAIV. __________________ Check it out: The Open Source/Freeware/Gratis Software Thread

03-30-2007, 02:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lasereth Knight of the Old Republic Location: Winston-Salem, NC	That will NOT run in the Wii. Period. This game looks amazing. I've played and completed GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas and I'm ready for more. Main character looks badass and those graphics are truly next-gen. They'll have to slaughter it to make it run on the Wii. __________________ "A Darwinian attacks his theory, seeking to find flaws. An ID believer defends his theory, seeking to conceal flaws." -Roger Ebert

03-30-2007, 04:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	WOW that looks AMAZING!!!!!!! And yeah, there's no way that will run on Wii without dropping textures and view distance dramatically...... That was just awesome. Great music and feel to the trailer. I can't wait. __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

03-31-2007, 08:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
Plaid13 I want a Plaid crayon	Hope they dont take too long to put this on the pc But when they do it should be fun. I hope they stay away from the flying missions this time. And real far away from the RC flying missions. I really liked the way san andraes was spread out but i do think they need more of the main missions in each area and more reasons to stick around that spot to do all the side missions. But it was nice being able to leave the city and just go offroading or get on the highways for a long drive. I would really like to see vehicles that dont disapear. Maybe just legaly owned ones. Like if you buy one from a dealer and modify it all you want it wont disapear on you if you take it to a mission and need to drive some other car for a while and leave it there. Always bugged me that i had nice cars that would disapear if i tried to use them on missions.

04-01-2007, 11:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
CyCo PL Addict Location: Tulsa, OK	I just hope they have multiplayer that doesn't require some kind of hack. And I enjoyed the flying missions, they're easy to control with the PS2 controller (which is how they're meant to be controlled). They're difficult, but not impossible, which is how every game should be.

04-04-2007, 05:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
sweetcha0s Upright Location: Va	Liberty City o.O? Wow, is this a new vice city game? or is it that one from the psp that they put on to the ps2?

04-07-2007, 08:53 PM	#12 (permalink)
Brightwater Upright	I'm pretty excited about GTA 4. It will be nice to combine the GTA experience with much fancier graphics. I don't know if I'd want to play a GTA game on the Wii. Would I have to pump the controller up and down to beat people senseless and steal their money?

04-10-2007, 03:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
CyCo PL Addict Location: Tulsa, OK	Some new info on the game: http://planetgrandtheftauto.gamespy.....php?id=118912 # Niko Bellic is the main character. # Multi-player will be included, but no details yet. # Liberty City is the only location in the game. # The Xbox 360 version was the version shown to the magazine editors. # There were no planes in the skies of the demo that the magazine editors saw, and it seems that there will not be airplanes in the game. Other forms of air travel should not be ruled out. # The MetLife building now bears the name Getalife, the Statue of Liberty is now the Statue of Happiness, and DUMBO (Down Under the Manhattan Bridge Overpass) is called BOABO (Beneath the Offramp of the Algonquin Bridge Overpass). # Dan Houser of Rockstar Games said that New York City "is an environment we felt had never been done to the level we were envisioning it in a video game. From looking at all of the locations, this was the one that really stood out to us, and really had that impact. It has all of these iconic things that you couldn't put into a game before." # Within Grand Theft Auto IV, Rockstar North has recreated four of the five boroughs that make up New York City, as well as a section of New Jersey. In the GTA universe, Brooklyn has been transformed to Broker, Manhattan has mutated into Algonquin, Queens is now Dukes, The Bronx is Bohan, and New Jersey has become Alderney. # It's a smaller geographical mass than San Andreas, but not an inch of this world is wasted or dedicated to vast stretches of country or desert. It's a tightly packed metropolis that captures the eye with its decades of world-class architecture, sun-blocking towers, and extraordinary walks of life. # The city is brought to life with an amazing level of realism. Sunlight glistens beautifully off of glasswork, illuminates the intricate detailing of century old brick, and even reveals just how realistic an ordinary bag of trash can look. As the sun begins to set, the city takes on a whole different appearance. Buildings that were once eye-popping attractions slowly become ominous obelisks. As any New Yorker will tell you, there's a big difference between New York during the day and New York at night. Liberty City will perfectly capture that quality. # Niko Bellic's home is in Eastern Europe, and he likely may never have traveled to Liberty City if it wasn't for his cousin Roman. With life not working out in the homeland, "Bellic turns up in Liberty City because he's been receiving e-mails from his cousin Roman, that read like: 'I live this amazing life, it's the American Dream come true. I have two women. I have four hot tubs. I have fifteen sports cars," Houser elaborates. "And [Bellic] believes it." His bid to flee his past for what he thought would be the greener pastures of America couldn't be any further from the truth. Roman has been lying to him. He isn't rich. He isn't popular. And he's actually in a load of trouble. He lied to his cousin to hide his own failures in life. # Roman, Niko's cousin, is the only person that he knows in America. He serves as one of his main friends, motivations, and connections at the start of the game. Unlike San Andreas, players won't get a chance to see Bellic in his homeland. You will see his life unfold from the moment he steps into Liberty City. # Niko is a "tough character" while Roman is a "friendly buffoon."

04-10-2007, 04:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
MexicanOnABike Location: up north	nice! thanks for the info man! __________________ - Movie Reviews - Ratings-

04-11-2007, 03:58 AM	#16 (permalink)
Silvy paranoid Location: The Netherlands	I also can't wait for this game. I'm no console fan, but if they don't announce a PC version before or around launch, I'm getting myself a PS3! I really expect this game to be awesome. I've yet to see a true in-game screenshot though.... __________________ "Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace. " - Murphy MacManus (Boondock Saints)

04-11-2007, 08:53 PM	#19 (permalink)
hiredgun Addict	The really strange thing is this: I am of course familiar with Liberty City from GTA3, but I never before realized that it was supposed to be some sort of analogue for New York. So I was watching the trailer just now and I thought to myself, "what the hell, this isn't Liberty City, this is New York! Look, the Statue of Liberty! The Brooklyn Bridge! Times Square!" I don't remember seeing stand-ins for any of those things in GTA3. Am I missing something?