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BadNick · 11-15-2008, 04:20 PM

Is this island near the coast of China?

Tul, I'm no expert in kimpewter stuff either, but a little "logic" goes a long way. And since I hate Windows and always liked D.O.S. and considered myself adept at it back in the day, it tickled me that I actually resorted to calling up a "c:\" command prompt and was manually searching directories and files and deciding what to kill from there.

Tully Mars · 11-15-2008, 04:23 PM

I guess that depends on your definition of near. But I would say yes, it is near the coast of China.

uncle phil · 11-15-2008, 05:30 PM

quemoy?

Tully Mars · 11-15-2008, 05:39 PM

Never heard of it, so no.

BadNick · 11-15-2008, 08:56 PM

Are you in the Philippines?

Tully Mars · 11-16-2008, 02:41 AM

Not in the PI.

uncle phil · 11-16-2008, 05:08 AM

matsu?

First Taiwan Strait Crisis Quemoy and Matsu Islands

Tully Mars · 11-16-2008, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle phil

matsu?

First Taiwan Strait Crisis Quemoy and Matsu Islands

Nope

uncle phil · 11-16-2008, 07:42 AM

macao?

Tully Mars · 11-16-2008, 07:45 AM

No, think island nation.

uncle phil · 11-16-2008, 08:10 AM

formosa?

BadNick · 11-16-2008, 05:24 PM

Vanuatu?

...just in case, this is Lopevi Volcano on Vanuatu

Tully Mars · 11-16-2008, 06:09 PM

No and no.

Here's a photo and a clue-

Head north and you'll find this town. Look to recent headlines and find it's name.

BadNick · 11-16-2008, 06:54 PM

Are you in Bali? If you are, I can't seem to find that harbour. Another clue?

edit: Maybe Nusa Dua?

Tully Mars · 11-16-2008, 07:00 PM

No.

Repeat clue of north.

BadNick · 11-16-2008, 07:08 PM

Saipan, Northern Mariana Islands? I'll have to hunt through news since I don't recall this being in the news lately.

Tully Mars · 11-16-2008, 07:24 PM

No.

Asian island nation.

Northern Asian island nation.

The town's name is all over my google news page. Not the town... but the name.

BadNick · 11-16-2008, 08:08 PM

Taiwan? Perhaps in Taipei?

Just in case, this is a nice photo I found of the Siouguluan River in Taiwan

I beg your pardons for interjecting an off-topic pic, but I found this to be quite interesting:

Pacific typhoon tracks 1980-2005

Tully Mars · 11-17-2008, 02:22 AM

No, sorry.

Just don't know how to "change" the clue to one "you can believe in."

uncle phil · 11-17-2008, 03:09 AM

japan?

Tully Mars · 11-17-2008, 03:10 AM

Yes I am in Japan.

uncle phil · 11-17-2008, 03:16 AM

city?

Tully Mars · 11-17-2008, 03:25 AM

Yep, there's a picture of it above.

uncle phil · 11-17-2008, 04:16 AM

yokohama (sp.)?

Tully Mars · 11-17-2008, 04:24 AM

No the town I'm looking for is much smaller. Yokohama is a suburb of Tokyo with probably several million residents.

Open up your morning paper, look at the front page and see who's name is on it more times then anyone else's and you'll likely come up with _______, Japan.

That's where I'm at.

uncle phil · 11-17-2008, 04:28 AM

only tokyo?

BadNick · 11-17-2008, 04:35 AM

Fukui youi Tuli...I think you might be in Obama, Fukui, Japan? Obama, Fukui - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...and further:

Relationship with elected U.S. President, Barack Obama
After the city of Obama noted the rise of Barack Obama as an American politician (Democratic Party) and as the elected President of the United States, they decided to use the common name to boost publicity for the town.

It began when the Illinois Senator gave a 2006 interview to Japanese television network TBS where he noted that, when passing through customs in Narita Airport, an official looking at his visa noted that he was from Obama. The Obama City Hall heard about the interview and the then mayor, Toshio Murakami, sent Senator Obama a set of the city’s famous lacquer chopsticks, a DVD about the city and a letter wishing him the best. As Senator Obama's presidential campaign progressed, more local businesses began to organize primary parties and put up "Go Obama!" posters, sell "I love Obama" T-shirts, and produce manjū (a type of Japanese confectionery) with Senator Obama's face on them.

Senator Obama has since thanked the town for their gifts and support, saying "I look forward to a future marked by the continued friendship of our two great nations and a shared commitment to a better, freer world".

There are a number of Japanese with the surname Obama though the American Senator is of Kenyan Luo heritage; it is not uncommon for Japanese and East African names to sound alike.

Statue of Barack Obama after victory in 2008 US election
As a result of the decisive victory by Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election, the Mayor of Obama City announced to the Japanese press that he intends to commission a statue of Barack Obama to be put in front of the city hall "as a token of the great historical moment for the name Obama".

In addition, he has declared that November 4th will be an annual holiday in the city.

North Korean abductions of Japanese
Obama is one of the locations where Japanese citizens were abducted by agents of the North Korean government on July 7, 1978. Some Americans were hoping for a Sarah Palin abduction when a special ops N. Korean little league baseball team was found washed up on the shores of Alaska.

Tully Mars · 11-17-2008, 04:36 AM

No. See clue-

Quote:

The town's name is all over my google news page. Not the town... but the name.

So I'm looking for a name of a town. But it shares the name of a person.

BTW- did you catch 60 minutes last night?

uncle phil · 11-17-2008, 04:39 AM

a little bit...

Tully Mars · 11-17-2008, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNick

Fukui youi Tuli...I think you might be in Obama, Fukui, Japan? Obama, Fukui - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

...and further:

Relationship with elected U.S. President, Barack Obama
After the city of Obama noted the rise of Barack Obama as an American politician (Democratic Party) and as the elected President of the United States, they decided to use the common name to boost publicity for the town.

It began when the Illinois Senator gave a 2006 interview to Japanese television network TBS where he noted that, when passing through customs in Narita Airport, an official looking at his visa noted that he was from Obama. The Obama City Hall heard about the interview and the then mayor, Toshio Murakami, sent Senator Obama a set of the city’s famous lacquer chopsticks, a DVD about the city and a letter wishing him the best. As Senator Obama's presidential campaign progressed, more local businesses began to organize primary parties and put up "Go Obama!" posters, sell "I love Obama" T-shirts, and produce manjū (a type of Japanese confectionery) with Senator Obama's face on them.

Senator Obama has since thanked the town for their gifts and support, saying "I look forward to a future marked by the continued friendship of our two great nations and a shared commitment to a better, freer world".

There are a number of Japanese with the surname Obama though the American Senator is of Kenyan Luo heritage; it is not uncommon for Japanese and East African names to sound alike.

Statue of Barack Obama after victory in 2008 US election
As a result of the decisive victory by Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election, the Mayor of Obama City announced to the Japanese press that he intends to commission a statue of Barack Obama to be put in front of the city hall "as a token of the great historical moment for the name Obama".

In addition, he has declared that November 4th will be an annual holiday in the city.

North Korean abductions of Japanese
Obama is one of the locations where Japanese citizens were abducted by agents of the North Korean government on July 7, 1978. Some Americans were hoping for a Sarah Palin abduction when a special ops N. Korean little league baseball team was found washed up on the shores of Alaska.

イエス感謝の言葉

Or..

Yes!, Thank-you.

Yer up Mr. Nick. Get on with your bad self.

BadNick · 11-17-2008, 04:41 AM

no, I don't watch TV...though I did spend an hour or so yesterday setting up our family's new widescreen, and I should have spent a night at Holiday Inn Express, I bet I'd know this if I did. I'll go think on it some more.
-----Added 17/11/2008 at 07 : 44 : 53-----
oops, we're star crossed posters. Give me a few minutes to come up with something...I'm sorry to say I have to leave to go to work, will post back in about 90 min. Please take a relaxing, revitalizing break in the meantime.
-----Added 17/11/2008 at 10 : 46 : 32-----

OK, where in the world am I this time?

Tully Mars · 11-17-2008, 08:09 AM

BadNick · 11-17-2008, 09:16 AM

uncle phil · 11-17-2008, 12:26 PM

BadNick · 11-17-2008, 01:00 PM

uncle phil · 11-17-2008, 01:10 PM

americus?

BadNick · 11-17-2008, 01:11 PM

yesus

uncle phil · 11-17-2008, 01:38 PM

east of "that river?"

BadNick · 11-17-2008, 01:54 PM

yesum

uncle phil · 11-17-2008, 02:05 PM

landlocked state - meaning not touching a ocean or gulf?

11-15-2008, 04:23 PM	#3242 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	I guess that depends on your definition of near. But I would say yes, it is near the coast of China. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

11-15-2008, 05:30 PM	#3243 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	quemoy? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

11-15-2008, 05:39 PM	#3244 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Never heard of it, so no. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

11-16-2008, 02:41 AM	#3246 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Not in the PI. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club Last edited by Tully Mars; 11-16-2008 at 07:04 AM..

11-16-2008, 05:08 AM	#3247 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	matsu? First Taiwan Strait Crisis Quemoy and Matsu Islands __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

11-15-2008, 04:20 PM	#3241 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Is this island near the coast of China? Tul, I'm no expert in kimpewter stuff either, but a little "logic" goes a long way. And since I hate Windows and always liked D.O.S. and considered myself adept at it back in the day, it tickled me that I actually resorted to calling up a "c:\" command prompt and was manually searching directories and files and deciding what to kill from there.

11-15-2008, 08:56 PM	#3245 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Are you in the Philippines?

11-16-2008, 07:42 AM	#3249 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	macao? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

11-16-2008, 07:45 AM	#3250 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	No, think island nation. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

11-16-2008, 08:10 AM	#3251 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	formosa? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

11-16-2008, 05:24 PM	#3252 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Vanuatu? ...just in case, this is Lopevi Volcano on Vanuatu

11-16-2008, 06:09 PM	#3253 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	No and no. Here's a photo and a clue- Head north and you'll find this town. Look to recent headlines and find it's name. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

11-16-2008, 06:54 PM	#3254 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Are you in Bali? If you are, I can't seem to find that harbour. Another clue? edit: Maybe Nusa Dua? Last edited by BadNick; 11-16-2008 at 06:59 PM..

11-16-2008, 07:00 PM	#3255 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	No. Repeat clue of north. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

11-16-2008, 07:08 PM	#3256 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Saipan, Northern Mariana Islands? I'll have to hunt through news since I don't recall this being in the news lately.

11-16-2008, 07:24 PM	#3257 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	No. Asian island nation. Northern Asian island nation. The town's name is all over my google news page. Not the town... but the name. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

11-16-2008, 08:08 PM	#3258 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Taiwan? Perhaps in Taipei? Just in case, this is a nice photo I found of the Siouguluan River in Taiwan I beg your pardons for interjecting an off-topic pic, but I found this to be quite interesting: Pacific typhoon tracks 1980-2005

11-17-2008, 02:22 AM	#3259 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	No, sorry. Just don't know how to "change" the clue to one "you can believe in." __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

11-17-2008, 03:09 AM	#3260 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	japan? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

11-17-2008, 03:10 AM	#3261 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Yes I am in Japan. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

11-17-2008, 03:16 AM	#3262 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	city? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

11-17-2008, 03:25 AM	#3263 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Yep, there's a picture of it above. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

11-17-2008, 04:16 AM	#3264 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	yokohama (sp.)? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

11-17-2008, 04:24 AM	#3265 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	No the town I'm looking for is much smaller. Yokohama is a suburb of Tokyo with probably several million residents. Open up your morning paper, look at the front page and see who's name is on it more times then anyone else's and you'll likely come up with _______, Japan. That's where I'm at. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

11-17-2008, 04:28 AM	#3266 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	only tokyo? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

11-17-2008, 04:35 AM	#3267 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Fukui youi Tuli...I think you might be in Obama, Fukui, Japan? Obama, Fukui - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ...and further: Relationship with elected U.S. President, Barack Obama After the city of Obama noted the rise of Barack Obama as an American politician (Democratic Party) and as the elected President of the United States, they decided to use the common name to boost publicity for the town. It began when the Illinois Senator gave a 2006 interview to Japanese television network TBS where he noted that, when passing through customs in Narita Airport, an official looking at his visa noted that he was from Obama. The Obama City Hall heard about the interview and the then mayor, Toshio Murakami, sent Senator Obama a set of the city’s famous lacquer chopsticks, a DVD about the city and a letter wishing him the best. As Senator Obama's presidential campaign progressed, more local businesses began to organize primary parties and put up "Go Obama!" posters, sell "I love Obama" T-shirts, and produce manjū (a type of Japanese confectionery) with Senator Obama's face on them. Senator Obama has since thanked the town for their gifts and support, saying "I look forward to a future marked by the continued friendship of our two great nations and a shared commitment to a better, freer world". There are a number of Japanese with the surname Obama though the American Senator is of Kenyan Luo heritage; it is not uncommon for Japanese and East African names to sound alike. Statue of Barack Obama after victory in 2008 US election As a result of the decisive victory by Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election, the Mayor of Obama City announced to the Japanese press that he intends to commission a statue of Barack Obama to be put in front of the city hall "as a token of the great historical moment for the name Obama". In addition, he has declared that November 4th will be an annual holiday in the city. North Korean abductions of Japanese Obama is one of the locations where Japanese citizens were abducted by agents of the North Korean government on July 7, 1978. Some Americans were hoping for a Sarah Palin abduction when a special ops N. Korean little league baseball team was found washed up on the shores of Alaska.

11-17-2008, 04:39 AM	#3269 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	a little bit... __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

11-17-2008, 04:41 AM	#3271 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	no, I don't watch TV...though I did spend an hour or so yesterday setting up our family's new widescreen, and I should have spent a night at Holiday Inn Express, I bet I'd know this if I did. I'll go think on it some more. -----Added 17/11/2008 at 07 : 44 : 53----- oops, we're star crossed posters. Give me a few minutes to come up with something...I'm sorry to say I have to leave to go to work, will post back in about 90 min. Please take a relaxing, revitalizing break in the meantime. -----Added 17/11/2008 at 10 : 46 : 32----- OK, where in the world am I this time? Last edited by BadNick; 11-17-2008 at 07:47 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

11-17-2008, 08:09 AM	#3272 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	WH? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

11-17-2008, 09:16 AM	#3273 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	yes

11-17-2008, 12:26 PM	#3274 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	nh? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

11-17-2008, 01:00 PM	#3275 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	yes

11-17-2008, 01:10 PM	#3276 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	americus? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

11-17-2008, 01:11 PM	#3277 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	yesus

11-17-2008, 01:38 PM	#3278 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	east of "that river?" __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.