06-24-2008, 02:34 AM | #762 (permalink) |
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independent country?
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06-24-2008, 12:10 PM | #773 (permalink) |
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south orkney?
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06-25-2008, 02:50 AM | #775 (permalink) |
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only island i can see south of orkney is antarctica...
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06-25-2008, 03:29 AM | #776 (permalink) |
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I'm out too, thought there might be a Shackleton expedition connection. But I checked and Elephant and Ross are both East of Easter.
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06-25-2008, 05:38 AM | #777 (permalink) |
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Tully, can I borrow your GPS? I hope I got my bearings right, I'll have to double check that because I am in Antarctica and the spot I had in mind is on the Ross Ice Shelf...actually at McMurdo Station which is Lat & Long: 77°50' S & 166°40' E
uncle phil, since you said Antarctica first, I'd say it's fair for you to go next. |
06-25-2008, 06:48 AM | #778 (permalink) | |
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Yep, your right. Trying to zoom into it on google maps and compare Lon. I kept getting this freaking message "unable to provide images at this level, please zoom out." The when I zoom out I can't tell which island is which, no names. I just gave up. But I double checked on Wiki and your numbers are right. I wonder if google doesn't provide zooming to IP addresses outside the states? UP gave me a link to Hell, Norway and I got nothing. Just one big gray screen full of "unable to provide images at this level, please zoom out."
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06-25-2008, 08:27 AM | #779 (permalink) |
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I've also run into some google maps problems in this thread...lack of detail in some areas like you say. But then I just hunt down other sources.
Here's one of the maps of Antarctica that I used to determine approx. longitude, but then I looked up the numbers I posted above after you shook my confidence |
06-25-2008, 09:01 AM | #780 (permalink) | |
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Thanks for the map. I wouldn't let my geog. knowledge shake your confidence. I'm dyslexic as hell. When I sail I have to triple check shit all the time. Same thing when I used to fly a lot. In fact the guy that got me to stop talking about flying and actually get my ticket used to call me "Corrigan." Though I can honestly say once in the sky I never got turned around or lost. I was looking around down there and doing some searches based on Shackleton (long time hero of mine.) I glanced at the islands I mentioned based on those searches, but like I said when I zoomed out they looked east of Easter. I find those low lats. confusing, don't know why? The numbers are the numbers, they don't lie.
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06-25-2008, 09:15 AM | #781 (permalink) |
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I have my own twist to your directionally challenged self. My problem is that no matter where I am, even if I've never been there, I really never feel "lost" and figure that eventually I'll get my bearings. This can lead to problems if my copilot is not like minded, but it can also lead to interesting discoveries. I can hardly believe all the cool stuff I've stumbled upon while randomly driving down unknown roads. Of course in a desolate, life-threatening environment like Antarctica, or other true wilderness, I would have to change my perspective on this.
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06-25-2008, 02:06 PM | #782 (permalink) | |
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ok, hang on while i fnd the darts...
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06-26-2008, 02:57 AM | #785 (permalink) |
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tully - no
nick - no...
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06-26-2008, 03:59 AM | #787 (permalink) |
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yes...
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06-26-2008, 04:11 AM | #789 (permalink) |
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landlocked country?
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06-26-2008, 05:15 AM | #790 (permalink) |
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tully - yes
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06-26-2008, 05:21 AM | #792 (permalink) |
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no...
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06-26-2008, 06:18 AM | #794 (permalink) |
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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it. |
06-26-2008, 06:47 AM | #796 (permalink) |
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no...
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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it. |
06-26-2008, 07:13 AM | #799 (permalink) |
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no...
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