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uncle phil · 06-03-2009, 01:13 PM

amazon rain forest?

Tully Mars · 06-03-2009, 01:20 PM

Wiki just says "in the jungle" but I would say yes I am in the rain forest.

uncle phil · 06-03-2009, 01:41 PM

ok, what are we looking for, a city, a port, a river?

Tully Mars · 06-03-2009, 01:48 PM

It's a town. Not too many residents these days.

Shell · 06-03-2009, 02:03 PM

...NORTHERN brazil? (wild guess - Via Brasil)

Tully Mars · 06-03-2009, 02:11 PM

Not Via Brasil. Yes, northern Brazil but I am in the SH.

uncle phil · 06-03-2009, 02:36 PM

manaus?

Tully Mars · 06-03-2009, 05:46 PM

No, but you're getting close. Head east.

BadNick · 06-03-2009, 06:11 PM

Are you east of Maraba?

Tully Mars · 06-03-2009, 06:22 PM

No I'm not.

BadNick · 06-03-2009, 07:44 PM

Fordlândia?

...pretty interesting whether you're there or not!...: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordl%C3%A2ndia

Fordlândia ("Ford-land") was a vast tract of land purchased by American automobile tycoon Henry Ford in the 1920s. Covering over 10,000 km² of land, it was situated near the city of Santarém, Brazil, and approximately 960 kilometres from the mouth of the Amazon River at Belém. At the time all rubber was naturally produced and imported from the tropics. Ford's intent was linked to his manufacturing mentality. Ford intended to secure rubber from source to final product, increasing his bottom line.

Ford intended to use Fordlândia to provide his company with a source of rubber for the tires on Ford cars, avoiding the dependence of British (Malayan) rubber. The land was hilly, rocky and infertile. None of Ford's managers had the requisite knowledge of tropical agriculture. The rubber trees, packed closely together in plantations, as opposed to being widely spaced in the jungle, were easy prey for tree blight and insects. The mostly indigenous workers on the plantations, given unfamiliar food such as hamburgers and forced to live in American style housing, disliked the way they were treated — they had to wear ID badges, and to work midday hours under the tropical sun — and would often refuse to work. In 1930, the native workers revolted against the managers, many of whom fled into the jungle for a few days until the Brazilian Army arrived and the revolt ended.

Ford forbade any drinking or even smoking cigarettes within the town, including inside the workers' own homes. A settlement was established five miles upstream on the "Island of Innocence" with bars, nightclubs, and brothels.

The government of Brazil was suspicious of any foreign investments, particularly in the northern Amazonia region, and offered little help. Ford tried again upstream, relocating to Belterra, where better weather conditions to grow rubber existed. But by 1945, synthetic rubber was developed, ending the world-wide demand for natural rubber. Ford's investment opportunity dried up overnight. As a result Fordlândia was a total disaster. In 1945, Henry Ford sold it for a loss of over US$20 million.

Singer/songwriter Kate Campbell has memorialized Fordlandia and its spectacular failure as a modern-day parable on her 2008 album "Save the Day." Sung with fellow folk artist Nancy Griffith and co-written by Kate Campbell and Walt Aldridge, the title of the cut is simply "Fordlandia." The lyrics incorporate many of the historical facts, but in contrast to the last line of her song, the founding of Fordlandia took place near the end of many successful years of production of the Ford Model T, the last of which rolled off the assembly line in 1927.

Additionally, in November of 2008, Icelandic composer Jóhann Jóhannsson released an album entitled Fordlândia.

Tully Mars · 06-03-2009, 07:54 PM

I am in Fordlandia!

You found me.

Yer up!

BadNick · 06-03-2009, 08:00 PM

Let me dream on this and hopefully by morning I'll be so lost nobody will find me ever again

Shell · 06-03-2009, 10:20 PM

...sweet dreams, BadNick...goodnite

(<<<...don't read too much into that lol)

...oh, WE'LL find you...you can run but you can't hide.

-

uncle phil · 06-04-2009, 02:31 AM

/me awaits the coming...

BadNick · 06-04-2009, 03:36 AM

thanks, Shell...that "too much" gave me some damn good dreams, I didn't want to wake up

...btw, let's do it again tonight

OK folks, where in the world am I?

uncle phil · 06-04-2009, 03:41 AM

Tully Mars · 06-04-2009, 03:42 AM

Cairo, Egypt?

BadNick · 06-04-2009, 03:46 AM

no

so no

Tully Mars · 06-04-2009, 03:50 AM

BadNick · 06-04-2009, 03:53 AM

Shell · 06-04-2009, 03:56 AM

...usa?

Tully Mars · 06-04-2009, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNick

Singer/songwriter Kate Campbell has memorialized Fordlandia and its spectacular failure as a modern-day parable on her 2008 album "Save the Day." Sung with fellow folk artist Nancy Griffith and co-written by Kate Campbell and Walt Aldridge, the title of the cut is simply "Fordlandia." The lyrics incorporate many of the historical facts, but in contrast to the last line of her song, the founding of Fordlandia took place near the end of many successful years of production of the Ford Model T, the last of which rolled off the assembly line in 1927.
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Had to look this up...

Quote:

One day Henry Ford went down
Built his very own new town
Only one for miles around
In the middle of the Amazon
Hospitals and factories
A quarter-million rubber trees
Gonna beat that European squeeze
And raise his bottom line

Fordlandia still standing there
In the jungle air
In the middle of nowhere
Some dreams die hard
Some notions are
Like the city of Fordlandia

A church, a school and a butcher shop
But they never got a single crop
The whole thing was a giant flop
From the day he thought it up
How could anybody know
You can't plant rubber trees in a row
They need a little space to grow
If your gonna send some tires back home

Fordlandia still standing there
In the jungle air
In the middle of nowhere
Some dreams die hard
Some notions are
Like the city of Fordlandia

Speaking now in Ford's defense
Sometimes things make perfect sense
The best laid plans of mice and men
Will often go astray
All of history's greatest minds
Dared to lay it on the line
They came up short a couple of times
Before they made the Model ?T?

Fordlandia still standing there
In the jungle air
In the middle of nowhere
Some dreams die hard
Some notions are
Like the city of Fordlandia

Sofa?

BadNick · 06-04-2009, 06:50 AM

Thanks for the lyrics, Tul. I hope I don't upset Shell, but I love Nancy Griffith...I'll pop one of her CD's in on my way home.

I'm not on my sofa in the usa, or anywhere in the USA for that matter.

Shell · 06-04-2009, 09:03 AM

...haha...okay, central america?

Tully Mars · 06-04-2009, 09:09 AM

South America?

BadNick · 06-04-2009, 10:03 AM

not Central America

yes SA

uncle phil · 06-04-2009, 11:23 AM

island?

Shell · 06-04-2009, 11:24 AM

...Columbia

BadNick · 06-04-2009, 12:00 PM

yes island

not Columbia

Shell · 06-04-2009, 12:10 PM

...galapagos?

uncle phil · 06-04-2009, 12:35 PM

aruba?

BadNick · 06-04-2009, 07:06 PM

not galapagos

not aruba

Shell · 06-04-2009, 07:54 PM

...i still have 5 minutes before days end to say...
! ! ! H A P P Y....B I R T H D A Y....T U L L Y ! ! !
........

...Trinidad and Tobago?

Tully Mars · 06-05-2009, 02:32 AM

Thanks Shell, was a good day all around.

Venezuelan Island?

uncle phil · 06-05-2009, 02:44 AM

tully, you old fart...

grenada?

Tully Mars · 06-05-2009, 02:54 AM

True. But I'll never be as old as you. I take comfort in that.

uncle phil · 06-05-2009, 02:56 AM

hehe...

loved the pics of your place, by the way...

that's where you were talking about moving after we saw you?

BadNick · 06-05-2009, 03:21 AM

Happy Belated Birthday, Tully...much more happiness, health, wealth, sex...may all the good things in life that you desire come your way before you're as old as unc

I resist looking in the various "birthday threads" here since they remind me of the Seinfeld show episode in Elaine's office with all the cakes, and I need to loose a few pounds...nothing to do with me getting older like unc.

not T and T

not a Venezuelan island

not Grenada

...I think after you nail down the country that the island is part of, you'll home in on me in reasonable time

Shell · 06-05-2009, 03:27 AM

...tully, hope you had a "a good all around day" ...Happy Birthday!

(...i edited out the "Hot Lips" B-day present pic since it wasn't exactly on topic)

06-03-2009, 01:13 PM	#6081 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	amazon rain forest? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

06-03-2009, 01:20 PM	#6082 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Wiki just says "in the jungle" but I would say yes I am in the rain forest. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

06-03-2009, 01:41 PM	#6083 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	ok, what are we looking for, a city, a port, a river? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

06-03-2009, 01:48 PM	#6084 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	It's a town. Not too many residents these days. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

06-03-2009, 02:03 PM	#6085 (permalink)
Shell Cheers Location: Eastcoast USA	...NORTHERN brazil? (wild guess - Via Brasil) __________________ ..."Say what you think. Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind" ~ Dr. Seuss

06-03-2009, 02:11 PM	#6086 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Not Via Brasil. Yes, northern Brazil but I am in the SH. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

06-03-2009, 02:36 PM	#6087 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	manaus? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

06-03-2009, 05:46 PM	#6088 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	No, but you're getting close. Head east. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

06-03-2009, 06:11 PM	#6089 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Are you east of Maraba?

06-03-2009, 06:22 PM	#6090 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	No I'm not. __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

06-03-2009, 07:44 PM	#6091 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Fordlândia? ...pretty interesting whether you're there or not!...: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordl%C3%A2ndia Fordlândia ("Ford-land") was a vast tract of land purchased by American automobile tycoon Henry Ford in the 1920s. Covering over 10,000 km² of land, it was situated near the city of Santarém, Brazil, and approximately 960 kilometres from the mouth of the Amazon River at Belém. At the time all rubber was naturally produced and imported from the tropics. Ford's intent was linked to his manufacturing mentality. Ford intended to secure rubber from source to final product, increasing his bottom line. Ford intended to use Fordlândia to provide his company with a source of rubber for the tires on Ford cars, avoiding the dependence of British (Malayan) rubber. The land was hilly, rocky and infertile. None of Ford's managers had the requisite knowledge of tropical agriculture. The rubber trees, packed closely together in plantations, as opposed to being widely spaced in the jungle, were easy prey for tree blight and insects. The mostly indigenous workers on the plantations, given unfamiliar food such as hamburgers and forced to live in American style housing, disliked the way they were treated — they had to wear ID badges, and to work midday hours under the tropical sun — and would often refuse to work. In 1930, the native workers revolted against the managers, many of whom fled into the jungle for a few days until the Brazilian Army arrived and the revolt ended. Ford forbade any drinking or even smoking cigarettes within the town, including inside the workers' own homes. A settlement was established five miles upstream on the "Island of Innocence" with bars, nightclubs, and brothels. The government of Brazil was suspicious of any foreign investments, particularly in the northern Amazonia region, and offered little help. Ford tried again upstream, relocating to Belterra, where better weather conditions to grow rubber existed. But by 1945, synthetic rubber was developed, ending the world-wide demand for natural rubber. Ford's investment opportunity dried up overnight. As a result Fordlândia was a total disaster. In 1945, Henry Ford sold it for a loss of over US$20 million. Singer/songwriter Kate Campbell has memorialized Fordlandia and its spectacular failure as a modern-day parable on her 2008 album "Save the Day." Sung with fellow folk artist Nancy Griffith and co-written by Kate Campbell and Walt Aldridge, the title of the cut is simply "Fordlandia." The lyrics incorporate many of the historical facts, but in contrast to the last line of her song, the founding of Fordlandia took place near the end of many successful years of production of the Ford Model T, the last of which rolled off the assembly line in 1927. Additionally, in November of 2008, Icelandic composer Jóhann Jóhannsson released an album entitled Fordlândia.

06-03-2009, 07:54 PM	#6092 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	I am in Fordlandia! You found me. Yer up! __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

06-03-2009, 08:00 PM	#6093 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Let me dream on this and hopefully by morning I'll be so lost nobody will find me ever again

06-03-2009, 10:20 PM	#6094 (permalink)
Shell Cheers Location: Eastcoast USA	...sweet dreams, BadNick...goodnite (<<<...don't read too much into that lol) ...oh, WE'LL find you...you can run but you can't hide. - __________________ ..."Say what you think. Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind" ~ Dr. Seuss Last edited by Shell; 06-04-2009 at 01:07 AM..

06-04-2009, 02:31 AM	#6095 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	/me awaits the coming... __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

06-04-2009, 03:36 AM	#6096 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	thanks, Shell...that "too much" gave me some damn good dreams, I didn't want to wake up ...btw, let's do it again tonight OK folks, where in the world am I?

06-04-2009, 03:41 AM	#6097 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	EH? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

06-04-2009, 03:42 AM	#6098 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Cairo, Egypt? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

06-04-2009, 03:46 AM	#6099 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	no so no

06-04-2009, 03:50 AM	#6100 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	NH? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

06-04-2009, 03:53 AM	#6101 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	yes

06-04-2009, 03:56 AM	#6102 (permalink)
Shell Cheers Location: Eastcoast USA	...usa? __________________ ..."Say what you think. Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind" ~ Dr. Seuss

06-04-2009, 06:50 AM	#6104 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	Thanks for the lyrics, Tul. I hope I don't upset Shell, but I love Nancy Griffith...I'll pop one of her CD's in on my way home. I'm not on my sofa in the usa, or anywhere in the USA for that matter.

06-04-2009, 09:03 AM	#6105 (permalink)
Shell Cheers Location: Eastcoast USA	...haha...okay, central america? __________________ ..."Say what you think. Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind" ~ Dr. Seuss

06-04-2009, 09:09 AM	#6106 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	South America? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

06-04-2009, 10:03 AM	#6107 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	not Central America yes SA

06-04-2009, 11:23 AM	#6108 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	island? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

06-04-2009, 11:24 AM	#6109 (permalink)
Shell Cheers Location: Eastcoast USA	...Columbia __________________ ..."Say what you think. Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind" ~ Dr. Seuss

06-04-2009, 12:00 PM	#6110 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	yes island not Columbia

06-04-2009, 12:10 PM	#6111 (permalink)
Shell Cheers Location: Eastcoast USA	...galapagos? __________________ ..."Say what you think. Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind" ~ Dr. Seuss

06-04-2009, 12:35 PM	#6112 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	aruba? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.

06-04-2009, 07:06 PM	#6113 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	not galapagos not aruba

06-04-2009, 07:54 PM	#6114 (permalink)
Shell Cheers Location: Eastcoast USA	...i still have 5 minutes before days end to say... ! ! ! H A P P Y....B I R T H D A Y....T U L L Y ! ! ! ........ ...Trinidad and Tobago? __________________ ..."Say what you think. Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind" ~ Dr. Seuss

06-05-2009, 02:32 AM	#6115 (permalink)
Tully Mars Living in a Warmer Insanity Super Moderator Location: Yucatan, Mexico	Thanks Shell, was a good day all around. Venezuelan Island? __________________ I used to drink to drown my sorrows, but the damned things have learned how to swim- Frida Kahlo Vice President Starkizzer Fan Club

06-05-2009, 02:44 AM	#6116 (permalink)
uncle phil comfortably numb... Super Moderator Location: upstate	tully, you old fart... grenada? __________________ "We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done." - Robert S. McNamara ----------------------------------------- "We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches... We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles." - Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message" ----------------------------------------- never wrestle with a pig. you both get dirty; the pig likes it.