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Locke7 03-14-2006 10:17 AM

Man running CTU is a death warrant. What I can't figure out is why he didn't just report it stolen. Takes about 3 seconds to make a new badge and cancel the old one.

The storyline needs to get better with the president, he is such a wimp...

robbdn 03-14-2006 11:45 AM

Pres is a wimp, me thinks he will soon let the VP run the show, or find his spine and turn cool all the sudden (which I doubt). So... wtf happened at the end of last ep? I'm confused as hell... dude wakes up, Tony goes down... huh? Is Tony down down? like, down for good? How the hell did dude wake up? And why didn't Tony going down affect me the way Edgar going down did?

Kind of a boring episode compared to last weeks, don't you think?

BulletCatcher 03-14-2006 03:26 PM

I don't think Tony bought it just yet. You can't give a silent clock to Edgar and not Tony.

m0rpheus 03-14-2006 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BulletCatcher
I don't think Tony bought it just yet. You can't give a silent clock to Edgar and not Tony.

Thats why Tony going down didnt affect me in the same way, I mean Tony MAY be dead or he may not. We dont actually know for sure, whereas Edgar was so dead.
That said Tony is my favorite character on the show (yes even more than Jack) so if he's dead I'll be kinda pissed.

ChrisJericho 03-14-2006 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BulletCatcher
I don't think Tony bought it just yet. You can't give a silent clock to Edgar and not Tony.

Spoiler: I agree. Because the clock wasn't silent AND we don't know what was in the syringe, I say Tony isn't dead. PLUS the rescue teams are on site now, maybe they will be ale to just give him the good ole shot of adrenaline/atropine/epi to the heart. After all that Almeida's been through he ain't going down to a little syringe of liquid.


the_marq 03-15-2006 04:41 PM

Jack Bauer Death Count
Balance--14
7-8pm Jack doesn't kill anyone, sure he doomed Lynn and Harry, but he didn't technincally kill them.
New Total=14


So after 12 hours the death toll for Jack is hung up at 14. This could lead to a season low for Jack, less than 30 kills in a day.

Tamerlain 03-15-2006 06:31 PM

Spoiler: I think he's dead for two reasons: One, he doesn't want to live anymore because Michelle is dead. He said that (paraphrasing) nothing matters anymore because she is dead. And two, Jack cried! He wouldn't be crying if Tony wasn't dead.

-Tamerlain

Jove 03-15-2006 06:42 PM

Well, I hope Jack Bauer eliminates all the terrorists like he did in season 1, because most of his comrades from CTU have been "discharged" by a terrorist organization.

I hope Barry is eliminated because he is a massive tool.

Barry speaking to Chloe: "Just breathe, you have been through a tramatic event."

shortynickel 03-15-2006 09:13 PM

Now I know who the dude is!

I also agree that he will die sometime today, the question is will he die to the gas trying to protect Kim or will she die with him...HMMM??? I thought that he brought some comedy into that part of the episode when he was talking to Chloe.

777 03-16-2006 07:05 PM

Well, Kim's bf's tend to get badly hurt on the show. I don't know most of their name's, but the Season 1 guy that kidnapped her and help Jack break them out (Dan?) was shot. Season 2, her bf loss a leg. Chase (Season 3), had his hand chopped off with an axe. So unless this is the last we see of Barry, he's going to get maimed pretty badly.

spongy 03-19-2006 01:43 PM

I'm starting to wonder if the VP is involved in this.. as in a powerplay to get martial law, then take over all power.

Konichiwaneko 03-20-2006 02:34 PM

I think this is the final season. Jacks gonna die, and I hope Chloe goes with him.

Kim does look pretty good though.

Aro23 03-20-2006 07:34 PM

hmmmmmmmmmm...........audrey sold a schematic i didn't see that comming

shortynickel 03-20-2006 07:55 PM

I have to say that I am not surprised by the presidents decision. That was a great ending to this weeks episode.

kutulu 03-20-2006 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aro23
hmmmmmmmmmm...........audrey sold a schematic i didn't see that comming

Seriously, what a fuckin whore! I can't wait to see Jack torture her. You know it has to happen.

"Listen bitch, I'm Jack Bauer. You saw what I did to your husband... Get the nipple clamps"

saut 03-20-2006 10:11 PM

Definitly did not see the Audrey twist coming. Next week should be sweet.

Frosstbyte 03-20-2006 10:11 PM

So Tony gets whacked with no fanfare. Jack screws over German Intelligence. Audrey's a traitor. The president declares martial law. And Wayne Palmer (WTF IS HE DOING BACK?!?) is being attacked by covert op teams commanded by the vice president on his way to tell Aaron about "something."

What a bizarre episode.

Willravel 03-20-2006 10:22 PM

I turned Audrey. Sorry.

I'm left wondering if anyone will survive this season at all. So far we've lost President Palmer (second best Character on TV), Michelle, Tony, Edgar, Sam from TLOTR, 40% of CTU...things aren't looking up for Chloe, Audrey, or Bill. Maybe we'll see Jack die a few times this season.

Tamerlain 03-20-2006 11:20 PM

Audrey being named as the informant is interesting. In the first season of 24, Nina was named as an informant within a few episodes but convinced Jack she wasn't a traitor. Same sort of situation this time. So what does Jack do this time around?

Everything in the episode all seemed to come out of left field. I'm still not sure what to make of it all.

-Tamerlain

Frosstbyte 03-21-2006 01:20 AM

Yeah, it's not that I specifically disliked anything in this episode, I just don't know where any of it came from or why any of it happened. Lots of weird new stuff to throw at us in one episode without any meaningful connections yet.

Also, what was with the horrible B-movie techno-rock playing during the second half of the episode? That I did specifically dislike.

Antikarma 03-21-2006 09:52 AM

This is oddly playing into all those "rumars on the intarwebs" about Jack working next season (he signed on for a full season 6) in Jolly ole England or something like that, and Curtis working concurrently on something in Yankeeland. I mean, everyone dead, so why hang around.

Or maybe I read too much crap on the web. Either way this has been a kickass season so far. For all the bellyrumbling of the Tony lovers, admit it, you HAVE to be on the edge of your seat now. Noone is safe, you have no idea whats going to happen.

Audrey Raines is a commie. Let me be the first to say it. She wears red underclothes and has a Marxist poster on her bedroom wall.

kutulu 03-21-2006 10:35 AM

So how long will it be until the Vice President gets busted? Will Jack get to interrogate him as well?

Locke7 03-21-2006 12:04 PM

I think that Audrey selling the info had to be a name planted... Geez, she's waiting for him to get back to make some sweet sweet love, and now he's going to go back and interrogate the crap out of her. I don't think they will end up together. No matter they'll both be dead soon enough at this rate.

Good episode, next weeks looks better. I don't know what I'm going to do when this show goes off the air.

robbdn 03-21-2006 02:40 PM

I really enjoyed this last episode, as confusing as it was... I agree about the name-plant, it doesn't seem like anything Audrey had been doing could have been designed to delay, stall, or thwart the information coming out that she sold the plans, nor does it seem like she was worried at all when they got the "information broker" into custody.

Anyhow... personally I get the feeling that within the next few weeks 24 is going to be unveiling a widespread high-ranking conspiracy the likes of which we couldn't even imagine at this point. Anderson, top advisor, CIA man, they were all in on it, and they couldn't have done it alone. I'd be willing to bet anything that the VP is just the tip of the iceberg, and if the VP isn't in on it whoever is in on it (perhaps the pres himself) will be the biggest shock of all...

Edit: Afterthought - if Audrey did intentionally sell the plans, perhaps she did it in order to find out what the next target was? She sold a few plans to a few questionable contacts, whichever one CTU picks up is the next target... seems like a good way to find out what the target is when you don't have ANY leads at all... even better, it sounds like something Jack would do--whatever it takes to get the job done.

the_marq 03-21-2006 02:50 PM

Jack Bauer Death Count
Balance--14
8-9pm Jack doesn't kill anyone,again.
New Total=14

Man, it has been 3 hours since Jack shot anyone, no wonder he's getting so edgy.

Audrey can't be a mole. It's way to cliche for CTU to have YET another mole. Then again, it's not like 24 hasn't played the cliche angle before.

ChrisJericho 03-21-2006 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antikarma
For all the bellyrumbling of the Tony lovers, admit it, you HAVE to be on the edge of your seat now. Noone is safe, you have no idea whats going to happen.


Goddamit, I can't believe Tony's dead. He was my favorite character. And to die in such a lame way.... ugh.

I'm not really on the edge of my seat anymore after Tony's death. The remaining characters aren't very interesting. If this was the last season of 24 I couldn't care less.

Bastards killed Almeida.... oh the times we shared Almeida.... I shall miss you and your underhanded alcoholic ways.

Frosstbyte 03-21-2006 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisJericho
Bastards killed Almeida.... oh the times we shared Almeida.... I shall miss you and your underhanded alcoholic ways.

I couldn't put it any better if I tried.

m0rpheus 03-21-2006 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisJericho
Goddamit, I can't believe Tony's dead. He was my favorite character. And to die in such a lame way.... ugh.

I'm not really on the edge of my seat anymore after Tony's death. The remaining characters aren't very interesting. If this was the last season of 24 I couldn't care less.

Bastards killed Almeida.... oh the times we shared Almeida.... I shall miss you and your underhanded alcoholic ways.

I would have been okay if he'd had a really cool death scene, but to go out like a punk like that?
As for the remaining characters we have...
Jack
Curtis aka Jack Jr
Chloe aka the annoying one
Audrey aka Nina part deux
Bill (actually I kinda like Bill)
Wayne "Principle Wood" Palmer
Mike (holy crap how is he still around? he's from season 1...)
President Nixon err whatever

Really the only characters I like anymore are Jack, Bill, Aaron, and to a certain extent Curtis.

Antikarma 03-21-2006 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0rpheus
Really the only characters I like anymore are Jack, Bill, Aaron, and to a certain extent Curtis.

Don'tcha get the feeling that with Wayne being targetted (I figger, of course, the vice president sent the dogs out), that Aaron will FINALLY get a bigger part and get to run in and save the day?

Oooooh, to be a fly on the wall in Fox Studios

Frosstbyte 03-21-2006 09:53 PM

I <3 Aaron

That is all.

Frosstbyte 03-27-2006 09:58 PM

Holy awesome shit, batman! What an amazing episode! Got a little slow and weird there for a little bit, but damn, this one had it all. Jack back in action is what I like to see.

Tamerlain 03-27-2006 10:02 PM

I don't quite understand how having the sentox (sp?) gas mixed in with natural gas kills people. Natural gas is burned away cleanly in furnaces, no? So wouldn't the sentox burn away with it - like they ended up doing anyway?

I wasn't quite as entertained by this episode as I had hoped I would be. But I guess my expectations were pretty high from last week.

-Tamerlain

kutulu 03-28-2006 09:05 AM

I would think so, but it's TV so you have to give it a pass. I was more concerned with how Jack went from the airport, interrogating that lady at 8:59 to CTU HQ at 9:04. Is CTU now equipped with beaming technology and if so, why couldn't they just beam the fucking canisters into space?

the_marq 03-28-2006 10:37 AM

Man I have been wait for 5 years for Aaron to finally start kicking some ass. I love that crazy looking dude.

Jack Bauer Death Count
Balance--14
9-10pm Jack shoots and kills 2 terrorists at the gass plant.
New Total=16

Locke7 03-28-2006 10:52 AM

OK, I'm loving the Aaron bit. First, how in the world did Wayne get his hands on an assault rifle with night scope... I don't remember him taking down any guards. Second, aren't they on some type of military compound? Wouldn't gunfire kind of make people wonder what the hell is going on?

A little trivia, what bad guy is actually Robocop?

And has this bad guy ever actually slept with Barbara Streisand?

Willravel 03-28-2006 11:12 AM

Interesting episode, if slightly disspointing on the Audrey front. Why not have another Nina? Damn it!

The best place to put the gas? Apparently, it's in a place where it can be burned off while making chili! That's an ascertive terrorist. Speaking of which, what self respecting Chechnian terrorist would worry about going after the US? With the obvious resources at their disposal, they should ahve no problem moving the stuff into Mexico, and then to Asia. Jeez. You'd think the cold war was over or something.

Leto 03-28-2006 12:08 PM

weller was robocop eh?

Locke7 03-28-2006 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto
weller was robocop eh?

Yup, and the new Barbara bio book shows that she sletpt with him LOL

ChrisJericho 03-29-2006 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locke7
OK, I'm loving the Aaron bit. First, how in the world did Wayne get his hands on an assault rifle with night scope... I don't remember him taking down any guards. Second, aren't they on some type of military compound? Wouldn't gunfire kind of make people wonder what the hell is going on?

Yeah... did he just pull that rifle outta his ass or something?

And why did the hot new comouter chick have to be psycho? Oh well, they'll kill her off I'm sure.

Frosstbyte 03-29-2006 01:20 AM

Yeah, the new computer chick already pisses me off. Unpunished sexual harasser and victim having to share space during a stressful time is interesting tension. Have a crazy chick who makes up sexual harassment claims and causing any trouble for Bill Buchanan is just stupid. Hopefully she goes sooner rather than later.

Antikarma 03-29-2006 07:11 AM

I can't decide if she's there to be eventual death fodder or to try and build up sympathy for that fellow from homeland.

Either way, you can pretty much ensure she's toast. I wonder what happens when Jack gets a sexual harrassment charge?

Willravel 03-29-2006 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antikarma
I can't decide if she's there to be eventual death fodder or to try and build up sympathy for that fellow from homeland.

Either way, you can pretty much ensure she's toast. I wonder what happens when Jack gets a sexual harrassment charge?

Jack will argue, "Choking women isn't sexual harassment!! WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS!!" Then there will be an explosion.

Locke7 03-29-2006 12:35 PM

Then he'll say "DAMN IT" and Curtis will say, "What is it Jack?" Then Jack will call Chloe, "Chloe I need you to send the blueprints of the base to my pda right now."

fresnelly 03-29-2006 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel
Jack will argue, "Choking women isn't sexual harassment!! WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS!!" Then there will be an explosion.

Then you have to take a shot of tequila, right?

Willravel 03-29-2006 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fresnelly
Then you have to take a shot of tequila, right?

You play that game too!!! :thumbsup:

Antikarma 03-30-2006 07:42 AM

Credit goes to the folks at 40oz

Playing this game two or more consecutive episodes of 24 may cause Alcohol Poisoning or serious liver damage.

May God help you if you are watching a series on DVD. With that said... Enjoy!
Never Empty Beer Mug

1. The time is displayed. (1 Drink)
2. There is an explosion, a bomb going off, or a plane/helicopter crash. (1 Drink)
3. A tender or sentimental moment is interrupted by a ringing cell phone. (2 Drinks)
4. There is a major plot twist that renders a significant amount of work done by CTU/Jack Bauer useless. (1 Drink)
5. Someone you thought was with the "good guys" is revealed to be in with the "bad guys." (2 Drinks)
6. Someone is held at gunpoint. (1 Drink)
7. A defibrulator is used (1 Drink).
If it actually saves the persons life. (2 Drinks)
8. Someone dies. (1 Drink)
If they're a A CTU / Governmental executive or other major plot character. (2 Drinks)
If the person is killed just before they reveal important information, discover something crucial, or solve some puzzle. (3 Drinks)
9. Jack Bauer miraculously recovers from an injury or very narrowly escapes certain death. (2 Drinks)
10. Jack Bauer does something that is against protocol. (1 Drink)
If he gets caught. (2 Drinks)
11. Jack Bauer asks to speak to the president. (1 Drink)
If he says "It's important." (2 Drinks)
12. Jack Bauer yells, "Drop your weapon!" (1 Drink)
13. Jack Bauer says, "You just have to trust me" (1 Drink)
14. Jack Bauer interrogates someone. (1 drink)
If Jack gets pissed off and yells, throws things (or them) around. (2 Drinks)
If Jack kills them afterward. (3 drinks)
15. Some computer whiz at CTU decodes, analyzes, decrypts, or hacks something. (1 Drink)
16. Kim Bauer says or does something extraordinarily stupid. (gets kidnapped, lies to the authorites, etc) (2 Drinks)
17. An old character who you thought was dead, fired, or gone forever comes back to surprise everyone (2 Drinks).
18. Someone is being a complete asshole, or a total moron and is preventing CTU, Jack, or the "good guys" from saving the day. (1 Drink)
If the above someone is Kim or Sherry (2 Drinks)
19. Sherry Palmer says "I'm doing this for you, David", or "This is for the good of your Presidency". (2 Drinks)
20. Someone on Palmer's staff advises him not to do something. (1 Drink)
If he does it anyway. (2 Drinks)
21. Someone on Palmer's staff does something sneaky behind his back. (1 Drink)
If Palmer fires them for it. (2 Drinks)
22. Information is leaked to the press. (1 Drink)
If the leak was unintentional (2 Drinks)
23. Someone without government clearance is told a secret they aren?t supposed to tell anyone. (1 Drink)
They tell someone anyway. (2 Drinks)
If Someone is Kim. (3 Drinks)
24. Something bad happens three seconds before the episode ends. (Finish your Drink)

777 03-30-2006 08:33 AM

Cool, now I have something to do with all this beer I got here.

braisler 03-30-2006 09:16 AM

Dude, that is WAY too many rules for a drinking game. How are we supposed to keep track of all of them once the drunkening begins? :)

Locke7 03-30-2006 09:26 AM

24 rules for the show 24 nice. Yeah we need to just have a couple.

1.) Jack yells "Damn it"
2.) Jack kills someone
3.) Chloe bitches at someone

m0rpheus 03-30-2006 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antikarma
Credit goes to the folks at 40oz

Playing this game two or more consecutive episodes of 24 may cause Alcohol Poisoning or serious liver damage.
8. Someone dies. (1 Drink)
If they're a A CTU / Governmental executive or other major plot character. (2 Drinks)

Dear god this one could be deadly if you are watching season 5...

Willravel 03-30-2006 04:09 PM

I made it 10 minutes into season 1 and died from alcohol poisoning. True story.

Jove 04-03-2006 06:05 PM

Spoiler: OMFG! WTF! The current president is linked to the asssination on President Palmer, the assisination attempt of the russian president, and the leak of nerve gas almost killing 100,000 americans.

I liked Jack Bauer in stealth mode, that was awsome.

shortynickel 04-03-2006 06:48 PM

DAMN!!!

well i have to give them that, I didnt expect that twist!!

I wonder how/when they will make that document null and void??

Aro23 04-03-2006 07:24 PM

can't believe logan's all behind it!!!!! i wonder how martha's reaction will be when she finds out about this situation

saut 04-03-2006 07:57 PM

quite a twist. i certainly didn't think logan was capable of being behind it all... i guess all his indecision was just a really good cover

Frosstbyte 04-03-2006 09:00 PM

Spoiler: I called Logan being behind it as soon as they started hitting us over the head with it being the vice president but not having seen him (the vice president) do anything specifically bad. It was too easy, so I had to go down the list. Still really crazy.

I'm very upset about Bill. I like him. Stupid Audrey being a double bind. Can't blame her, but damn, that sucks.

Willravel 04-03-2006 09:10 PM

THANK GOD. It's time for Jack Bauer to take out the trash..and the trasn is none other than Spoiler: the President. Good riddence. Spoiler: I hope the first lady is able to give him a fat slap in the face before Jack shoots him several times.

crossova 04-04-2006 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frosstbyte
Spoiler: I called Logan being behind it as soon as they started hitting us over the head with it being the vice president but not having seen him (the vice president) do anything specifically bad. It was too easy, so I had to go down the list. Still really crazy.

I'm very upset about Bill. I like him. Stupid Audrey being a double bind. Can't blame her, but damn, that sucks.

yeah audrey had to do that so they could still help Jack. Sacrifices have to be made. hopefully Bill wont feel badly about this personally.
i wouldve never guessed the mastermind behind it all was Spoiler: the president. I wonder if his initial plan was to take out Palmer and have the nerve gas go overseas like the original plan. But Jack botched that up so he was just trying to keep things contained w/ this martial law.

the_marq 04-04-2006 08:51 AM

Jack Bauer Death Count
Balance--16
10-11pm Jack shot and killed (roughly) 4 guys and slit one dude's throat
New Total=21

So now 16 hours into Day 5 Jack is back on pace to kill 31+ bad guys today.

Go Jack!

robbdn 04-04-2006 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbdn
Anyhow... personally I get the feeling that within the next few weeks 24 is going to be unveiling a widespread high-ranking conspiracy the likes of which we couldn't even imagine at this point. Anderson, top advisor, CIA man, they were all in on it, and they couldn't have done it alone. I'd be willing to bet anything that the VP is just the tip of the iceberg, and if the VP isn't in on it whoever is in on it (perhaps the pres himself) will be the biggest shock of all...

YES! Do I get a prize? I guess I'll have to settle for momentary self-celebratory ridiculousness.

Man! What a fantastic episode! Jack and Wayne taking out terrorists together was pretty great, just wish Aaron could've been in on it too. So, people keep talking about what would happen if Jack dies, who would take over... what about Wayne? Might be a good choice if Jack does Wayne's training for awhile. He's got motivation and he's relatively cool. Certainly better than Chase.

Tamerlain 04-04-2006 11:54 PM

Man, I don't know about the President being behind all of this. He was portrayed as such a wuss in the last season and for most of this season, this conspiracy is coming too far out of left field for me. His wussiness this season being an act could be believable, but not when I remember how he couldn't handle anything last season. He didn't suddenly grow a pair.

If they work it right I guess it could be exciting, but right now I'm not so sure... Maybe he's being manipulated by Henderson.

-Tamerlain

gcurl21 04-07-2006 01:03 PM

too less of Kim Bauer....

Aro23 04-07-2006 09:34 PM

yeah that's too bad she was only there for a couple of episodes

the_marq 04-10-2006 08:44 AM

The content of this post hints heavily at how season 5 will end. The same info is all over the news so my 'spoiler tagging' it may be redundant.

Spoiler: Well maybe I was wrong about prediciting the death of Jack Bauer this season after all:

Quote:

Spoiler: LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - "24" star
Kiefer Sutherland has inked a multifaceted deal with 20th Century Fox Television.

The rich pact, which is set to begin in June, calls for the actor to continue on the hit Fox drama for three more years and includes a two-year development deal for Sutherland's soon-to-be-launched production banner.

Details on the deal were sketchy, but sources pegged the acting portion alone at more than $40 million for the three seasons, which could make Sutherland the highest-paid actor in drama series.

While the deal with Sutherland locks him in for three additional years beyond the current fifth season of "24," the 20th TV/Imagine TV-produced show so far has been picked up for one additional season.

Under the pact, Sutherland also will be elevated from a co-executive producer to executive producer on "24" next season alongside Joel Surnow, Robert Cochran, Howard Gordon and Evan Katz.

The development portion of the deal is said to include overhead and a development fund for Sutherland's company. Sutherland will hire a development executive and will begin to develop and executive produce projects for television as well the Internet and wireless devices.

Sutherland called his past five years on the show "one of the most creative and rewarding experiences in my career."

In its fifth season, "24" is enjoying some of its best ratings and critical notices. The show, which introduced the now-hot serialized thriller genre, also has become a DVD best-seller and has spawned a mobile phone series.

Sutherland's performance on "24" has earned him a Golden Globe award and four Emmy nominations.


Willravel 04-10-2006 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcurl21
too less of Kim Bauer....

Kim Bauer for your viewing pleasure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_marq
Spoiler: Well maybe I was wrong about prediciting the death of Jack Bauer this season after all:

This is interesting news, indeed. Spoiler: I still have to wonder if he will shift out of his role as main character and more into the role of executive producer, not unlike Richard Dean Anderson in StarGate SG-1. I think a lot of Jack Bauers future will also depend on the success of Kiefer Southerland's new movie, The Sentinel. It could be his first hit movie in years.

Tamerlain 04-10-2006 10:16 AM

Comment on above spoiler tags:

Spoiler: I remember reading something about him being signed on for at least season 6 (this was before season 5 was released) so it doesn't surprise me that he's got an even bigger extension now.

I'm not sure what the show would be like if Kiefer went into more of a producer role as opposed to the star of the show.

As a tangent, I think it would be interesting to get Donald Sutherland in a villain role for next season. He plays villains so well.


-Tamerlain

Aro23 04-10-2006 06:25 PM

how many episodes are left?

Aro23 04-10-2006 06:32 PM

where's mike been?

gcurl21 04-10-2006 06:39 PM

atleast Kim Raver is fine...

777 04-10-2006 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aro23
how many episodes are left?

7. It's midnight now, and it all comes together at 7am.

Kick ass episode! Especially the spy music toward the end.

Frosstbyte 04-11-2006 12:49 AM

Yeah, wow, that was a huge episode. Lots of great stuff going on. I shed a tear for the random characters sacrificed in the name of Jack Bauer saving the world. This season has done a MUCH better job of keeping up the intensity after the primary threat (the gas) was gone than season two did of keeping things interesting after the nuclear bomb was taken care of.

robbdn 04-11-2006 08:12 AM

I'm just wondering how Bierko is going to fit in to the situation again... I mean, we all know how it works, they sit in medical unconscious just long enough for the situation to really hit the fan, then they wake up and give crucial information that saves Jack's hide. What information does Bierko still have? Don't we pretty much know everything at this point? What if he wakes up just before, or as, Jack meets up with Audrey's dad, and we get some information about who Bierko was taking orders from? I mean, there are seven episodes left, I'm just thinking how we go from where we are now to seven more episodes.

kutulu 04-11-2006 09:16 AM

Nice ep. Do we have an updated body count? I think he bagged two more, bringing it to 23. My prediction of 35 with 7 more left is looking good.

the_marq 04-11-2006 09:25 AM

Jack Bauer Death Count
Balance--21
11-12am Jack iced two more of Robocop's men when fleeing from the bank
New Total=23

Locke7 04-11-2006 10:54 AM

I thought the spy type Mission Impossible music was cheesy. Kind of ruined the end of a great episode for me. Someone has to wake up over there at homeland security. The president is going nuts...

crossova 04-11-2006 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locke7
I thought the spy type Mission Impossible music was cheesy. Kind of ruined the end of a great episode for me.

I'd have to disagree, it definitely lightened the mood a bit. It is amusing seeing Chloe and Homeland Security's 2nd in command play a little game of cat and mouse.

ChrisJericho 04-11-2006 03:27 PM

Goddamit Henderson has to pay !! He killed Tony. He probably killed President Palmer himself. He killed (I assume) Evelyn and her daughter PLUS the EMT's. This mothereffer better not get away with this shit !! ERRRRRRRGGHH

Konichiwaneko 04-11-2006 03:34 PM

I think Behrooz is behind this all.

Evelyn was really cute too :(

I'm looking forward to the next episode.

gcurl21 04-11-2006 05:41 PM

i think audrey might bite the bullet soon

Locke7 04-12-2006 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by gcurl21
i think audrey might bite the bullet soon

I actually think her dad might be in a world of hurt when he talks with the president...

Antikarma 04-12-2006 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Locke7
I actually think her dad might be in a world of hurt when he talks with the president...

I second that. I can't think of any way that he gets through the next two hours alive. They want a twist? DONT kill him.

Course, remember all the smooth gunfighting skills he showed last season.

Tamerlain 04-12-2006 10:06 AM

I'm glad that the President still seems like a weakling and that he wasn't just putting on an act.

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Originally Posted by Locke7
I actually think her dad might be in a world of hurt when he talks with the president...

I disagree. I think Heller will tear the President a new one with the Vice-President and Jack alongside. At the very least it will be Heller and the VP laying into the President, with Jack out preventing the very last problem that will invariably come up.

-Tamerlain

spongy 04-12-2006 01:55 PM

I was wondering about the line of succession.. say the Prez kills the veep.. then SecDef stops the prez.. wouldn't that make Audrey a First Daughter?

Willravel 04-12-2006 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spongy
I was wondering about the line of succession.. say the Prez kills the veep.. then SecDef stops the prez.. wouldn't that make Audrey a First Daughter?

No, the speaker of the house is 3rd in line. SecDef is #7. The only thing at this point that would surprise me would be Dennis Haysburt reprising his role as President David Palmer, posthoumously taking the office of the president. Beyond that, nothing is taboo.

Antikarma 04-12-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamerlain
I disagree. I think Heller will tear the President a new one with the Vice-President and Jack alongside. At the very least it will be Heller and the VP laying into the President, with Jack out preventing the very last problem that will invariably come up.

-Tamerlain

Where I agree that this would make a kickass story line, I do, I just don't see it happening. I hope it does, but it doesn't seem the 24 way.

BTW, any thoughts on what will happen with Buchanan, CTU, and Homeland?

Willravel 04-12-2006 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Antikarma
Where I agree that this would make a kickass story line, I do, I just don't see it happening. I hope it does, but it doesn't seem the 24 way.

Agreed.
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Originally Posted by Antikarma
BTW, any thoughts on what will happen with Buchanan, CTU, and Homeland?

This is an interesting front, becuase it seems so irrelevent next to the thing with the president. After the presidental problem is solved, the CTU/Homeland thing will determine the future of CTU in a huge way. I have to wonder if enough favors and such can be called in so as to seperate CTU LA from Homeland.

I'd like to see CTU swollow up Homeland, personally. It's obvious that CTU has the better leadership and also has better experience with the territory.

Tamerlain 04-12-2006 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Antikarma
Where I agree that this would make a kickass story line, I do, I just don't see it happening. I hope it does, but it doesn't seem the 24 way.

What do you think will happen then? I can see Heller not living for the next two hours, as you've speculated, but what then? He's the only one with any political clout to go up against the President. The VP showed a little bit of a backbone in this past episode, but backed down fairly quickly too. It seems to me that Heller has to live in order to bring down the President.

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Originally Posted by Antikarma
BTW, any thoughts on what will happen with Buchanan, CTU, and Homeland?

I think Buchanan will be reinstated and CTU will again become separate from Homeland Defence, for two reasons. Firstly, Audrey only signed the report to keep Chloe. When questioned about it by the people who will seek to use the fact that she signed a report damning Buchanan and CTU, she will bring this up. The repercussions will most likely be bad for her career, but that won't matter after the crisis is over. Secondly, the woman taking over CTU doesn't believe it's right anymore(I forget her name) and will, I think, not support a takeover of CTU after the crisis is averted. She will vouch for the reinstatement of Buchanan and the return of CTU to autonomy. The VP will have his hands full assuming the Presidency (however that will come about) and will need CTU to remain a separate entity, since they will have brought about the downfall of the President.

-Tamerlain

Antikarma 04-12-2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamerlain
What do you think will happen then?


Ya know what, I have no idea, which is half the fun. It's why I love the show. Kickass action + drama + good writing and it lasts longer than a movie. What more in life can we need? Oh yeah , and my wife lets me buy beer for it, THATS what else we need.

If I had to guess? And the main reason I think Heller is doomed? Most 24's lead to a dramatic climax, if not action than in drama, between bauer and the chief baddy. Which means I think, Bauer will be there when the president falls (probly trying to flee the country and Jack has to catch him or something). Heller there WITHOUT Bauer means, to me, either the President is not the top of the baddy food chain (unlikely), or Heller is about to ride a bullet.

Ya know, I can't think of any other tv show I actually enjoyed enough to speculate like this on upcoming episodes. I dunno if this means 24 is incredible or I need to get out more.

SteelyLoins 04-12-2006 09:37 PM

I haven't written off the possibility of David Palmer's death having been faked.

However, there is no truth to the rumor that he's been hiding out in major league baseball, trying to learn to hit a curveball.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...9/ef76725a.jpg

BulletCatcher 04-13-2006 08:08 AM

What if Heller himself is involved? He is the Secretary of Defense and one would think that in order to 'steal' 16 cannisters of nerve gas one would have to grease the right palms even if they are the President.

Heller confronts the Pres to try and cover his own butt but Jack discovers the connection and offs Heller. He's already tortured and killed Audrey's husband last season so why not her dad too?

Just more speculation :) .

Antikarma 04-13-2006 08:21 AM

Yeah, but the speculation is the fun part :p free beer to whoever is right. Of course, that means EVERYONE here owes me beer if I'm right.

Locke7 04-16-2006 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelyLoins
I haven't written off the possibility of David Palmer's death having been faked.

However, there is no truth to the rumor that he's been hiding out in major league baseball, trying to learn to hit a curveball.

Dude, we saw the bullet fly through his body. His brother was right there, and he died in his arms. Don't think this one was a fake.

crossova 04-17-2006 11:22 AM

Yeah Palmer is dead (you can see him on CBS' "The Unit"). I think Heller will survive but he may have an unfortunate "Accident" while on the Presidential Compound.

He may have had good gun skills last season, but lets see how he fares with some hand to hand combat. I have a feeling Aaron may die this season.


[b]Questions about last season[b] -
What happened to Behrooz?
What happened to the stealth bomber and its pilot?

Bodyhammer86 04-17-2006 11:49 AM

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What happened to the stealth bomber and its pilot?
It was shot down by the escort fighters after Air Force One crashed.

the_marq 04-17-2006 08:10 PM

Jack Bauer Death Count
Balance--23
12-1am Jack shoots and kills 3 more of Robocop's men then blows up a fuel tank roasting 2 more.
New Total=28

ironchef82 04-17-2006 08:22 PM

Who here thinks that Heller is a freakin idiot? This is what you get when you don't listen to Jack Bauer and try to take things into your own hands.

And I love the fact that Henderson's henchman think it's a brilliant idea to hide behind a fuel tank.

Frosstbyte 04-17-2006 09:04 PM

Having thoroughly supsended my disbelief, these episodes are delightful. Lots of craziness, lots of action. Just how I like it. For a moment I even thought we were going to watch Audrey die, but Jack had to make the hero's sacrifice, I suppose.

Additionally, Heller played that the worst way possible. I mean, I can understand why he tried to do it the underhanded way, but come on, make some copies of the recording first. Don't go in waving your dick around without having a very secure back up plan. Ah well, I guess the search goes on. That being said, even without the evidence, I think eve the president would have a very difficult time just explaining away Audrey's injury and the direct accusation of four people of relatively high positions of power. We shall see. I'm saying it now, I don't think Logan makes it out of the season alive.

Oh, and if anything happened to Aaron, there will be a serious price to pay. Stupid Martha.

ChrisJericho 04-17-2006 11:34 PM

Yeah, me and my friends were kind of like "huh?" when Heller came back in and punched jack in the throat. It didn't seem to make any sense other than to keep jack at the hanger until the bad guys showed up. After all, you'd think Heller would be a little trusting of jack who freaking saved him from a live televised execution. Oh well, just gotta suspend your disbelief.

Antikarma 04-18-2006 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ironchef82
And I love the fact that Henderson's henchman think it's a brilliant idea to hide behind a fuel tank.

Yeah I saw that and, geeky as it is, all I could think was "those morons would NEVER survive at Counterstrike."

Yeah I'm really curious as to what happened to Aaron. I keep waiting for when he gets to go on a few episode asskickery bender. Gonna be tough watching 24 while I'm away at school the next 6 weeks, but sacrifices need to be made dammit.

crossova 04-18-2006 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bodyhammer86
It was shot down by the escort fighters after Air Force One crashed.

Thx for the wrap up. I thought he blew up two of the fighter escorts prior to attacking the President's plane.

I was kinda upset that Audrey hasn't died yet. Will they finally off that big tooth broad :D why she did not just gnaw thru the restraints is beyond me. lol.

i was thinking that jack would have made a copy of the tape. it was foolish of him not to. Of all the things his magical PDA can do he could not record a 30sec phone call?


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