Xazy

Wow this is just so wrong.

I do not know if legal action can be taken against the hotel, but if i was a parent I know I would be making calls. As well as calling every media, and make as much noise as possible. To me this is just wrong, I have no clue how a hotel can do something like that, but I would raise hell.

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flat5

So the kids learned something about life, if they did not know already.
Some people live life differently than their parents.

JustJess

Actually, I think it's bullshit that anyone would expect the hotel to not book both parties. They're in it to make MONEY. However, IF the room was not all opaque walls, the hotel should have made other arrangements for the swingers' party. If the walls were perfectly opaque, the swingers should realize that they are in a public place, which means keeping their private lives out of everyone else's life. Have a party, get naked, do whatever you want - but keep it in the room you booked, since it's not your right to decide what the kids staying at the hotel learn about life today.

But overall, not a big enough deal to be making such a huge fuss. I'm sure the kids thought it was very amusing.

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maleficent

Ok, ,so mooning is legal in maryland now, not sure about florida . it's incredibly low class of these imbeciles to do that... I don't care what people do behind closed doors... but when you're in public - behave respectably - flashing another adult in a hotel lobby is low class.. flashing a child is beyond that...

the hotel could have and should have said keep your antics to your own rooms...

A few years ago, I went to an 'event' in the DC area - basically it was a party for alternative lifestyles... It was interesting... the hotel had made sure that the party area was blocked off from prying eyes (they had curtains around the doors so doors couldn't be opened and non-invited guests couldn't peak in.. They also told all the guests - when in public - act accordingly... (otherwise they wouldn't be invited back) people behaved.

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Charlatan

I agree that they should have had no problems booking both parties BUT, as Mal suggests, they should have taken steps to ensure the swingers were kept seperate. And upon any suggestion that there was nudity in the lobby, they should have cracked down on them.

I am pretty sure that the organizers of the event, had they known what was happening, could have taken steps to prevent further occurences.

The hotel could have also made sure that the soccer players didn't have a view of the glass atrium... just put them on the other side of the building.

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Randerolf

Were the children dressed like "Catholic schoolchildren?" Maybe people thought they were a part of the show.

SERPENT7

I think getting upset about a little naked flesh is silly.
If not for the protestant fear and loathing of the body which has seeped into our collective programming, this would not even be a discussion.

Gatorade Frost

So you would be okay with me walking up to your son or daughter and dropping my pants?

It's just a [lot of] naked flesh.

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5757

I understand that the parents had booked the rooms, paid for them, and were settled in. . BUT had I been the one there with my kids I would have went somewhere else asked for a refund later.

I'm sure it would have been impossible to find another hotel on such short notice so thats when you use your brain. You cover your kids eyes, take them straight to the room and make them stay in there! Not to hard huh.

Maybe the group of swingers didn't inform the hotel that they were going to be boinking eachother all night.

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snowy

I'm with you, JustJess. The hotel has no obligation to do anything here. They're a business. People should be expected to control themselves and behave appropriately in public--something these adults were clearly not doing, especially around children. The hotel isn't to blame for that behavior, or their inability to control it--that's what the POLICE are for.

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Charlatan

The issue isn't naked flesh. It lacivious naked flesh... sexualized naked flesh.

There is a difference.

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Sultana

I don't think this should have been allowed to be an issue...as far as I know just because one is a swinger doesn't mean that public nudity nor any other inappropriate public behavior is a part of that. The Swinger Event Coordinator (assuming there was one) should have stopped this behavior, and if they didn't, the hotel should have stepped in immediately. I don't understand why that didn't happen.

Even in Canada you can't go around in public with your naughty bits hanging out, eh? ;P

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Charlatan

That was the point I was trying to make earlier. It shoudn't have had the opportunity to be an issue.

Actually, women are legally allowed to be topless in Ontario. I'm not sure how many have tested the law since Gwen Jacobs helped to strike down the old one.

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BigBen

Sure you can. Be careful, because exposed skin freezes in under a minute.

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Carno

Oh man, that is awesome. I wish I had been staying at that hotel that night

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raeanna74

We are swingers and would not approve of such behavior by swingers. It was the swingers responsibility to refrain from strutting their stuff in front of everyone. They will now find it hard to find any accomodations for parties anywhere in that area now. It's their own fault. They could have and should have known better. If the hosts did not deal with 'exposure' problems then they will be dealing with it now. We've been to parties in hotels where more than once. Every time the hotel sectioned off portions for swinger use and requested that the swingers remained appropriately dressed in all PUBLIC portions of the hotel. If anyone did not abide by that rule they were quickly and discretely removed from the party by the Swinger Party Host's security detail. It's all part of acting responsibly.

Not everyone thinks the same way with regards to modesty but it's silly to think you can impose your 'values' regarding nudity on children without the approval of their parents. Have some consideration people.

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maleficent

if someone has a boisterous party in a hotel and the other guests complain - the hotel has an obligation to ask the rabblerousers to pipe down.

the hotel is providing a service -- but they also are responsible for all the guests comfort... if there's a drunk in a lobby screaming -I'd except that he would be removed... theres no difference..

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Brewmaniac

The hotel is definitely in business but part of being in business is protecting your interests. By allowing the scenario to unfold as it did the management set the entire hotel up for negative publicity and potential legal action.
It would have been easy to take to take precautions already mentioned, separating them etc. but far easier just avoid the problem altogether by not booking the two on the same night. On a pure business standpoint the ramifications of such a snafu could be more costly than loosing one of the bookings.

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hemiram57

How come nothing happened on any of my soccer trips like that? Not that the hotel should be in trouble, but they should take a few more precautions when they are going to have "alternative" guests.

optik_nerve

That's so wrong.

Xazy

The question is not if they should book two such parties, but as many people said ensuring that they do not cross. In my mind the hotel failed since that the swingers 'events' did not overlap with their other quests. I do not care what you do, but the hotel should be concerned about the sexual aspect in a family oriented place.

Brewmaniac

Knowing you have booked a youth event and a sexually primiscus party on the same night doesn't make for good business or public relations.

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Strange Famous

my opinion - big deal. I dont know any 13 year old boy that is gonna mind seeing some bared breasts.

I think people go crazy with all this "oh the children!" stuff sometimes, way I see it no one got hurt or anything.

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Suave

I believe a court recently found that the dual upper naughty bits on women are okay for public access.

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Toaster126

The police officer watching the event said nothing illegal happened. Therefore, I think the parents need to STFU and if they have a problem with it, they should have gotten refunds and left. Was it classy of the swingers to do all of that? Not really, but they didn't do anything illegal, so it's their right.

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pig

All I can say is that if these were the same type of soccer players (and I know the little bastards who used to play in both Clearwater and Greenville); 13 years old or not, those kids (myself included) would have been more intent on sneaking in to the Swingers section and maybe stealing some alchohol or setting them on fire or superglueing their dangling bits to various objects than anything else.

The article doesn't say whether or not the hotel managers tried to get the swingers to swing a little less publicly. They may have, but sometimes its tough to keep a group in control when they don't want to be in control. I know. I've been that group before that everyone else hated. I'm not condong the behavior, but lets face it. People make a veritable sport out of fucking with hotel staff, and it's New Year's Eve. I'm wondering which genius decided to put the soccer tournament in Orlando on New Year's Eve weekend. That's just asking for trouble, in my opinion.

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