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ziadel · 12-13-2005, 04:43 PM

http://articles.health.msn.com/id/100111139

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Forget ballplayers. More than ever, police officers are juicing up to get an edge on perps—but at what price? Men's Health investigates.
By: Sabrina Rubin Erdely, Men's Health Illustration by: Eddie Guy

Officer Jimmy (not his real name) knew his steroid use was paying off when, one day, the Ohio policeman needed to wrestle a suspect to the ground—and the guy crumpled like a piece of wet cardboard. "It took no effort at all," Jimmy marvels. For Kevin, a military policeman, his steroid epiphany came as he was throwing a rowdy patron out of a Southern California bar: Kevin grabbed the guy by his belt and yanked him right out of his chair. "He landed about 2 feet behind me," he remembers. Former Suffolk County, New York, officer Tom Foley had a steroid moment of a different sort when, while vacationing in L.A., he was pumping iron at Muscle Beach—with visions of his idol, Arnold, dancing in his head—and spectators started taking his picture.

"It was unbelievable!" Foley exclaims with a bashful smile, holding up a framed photo from that session: a shot of his shirtless back, an explosion of finely cut lats and traps. Foley, 33, is seated on the back porch of his girlfriend's Long Island home, enjoying the simple pleasure of breathing free air. He's on his very first weekend furlough from prison, where he's nearing the end of a 3-year sentence. And while he's stayed in excellent shape behind bars, he's no longer Muscle Beach buff. "Yeah, it was amazing," Foley says, peering nostalgically at the photo. "And that was on 200 milligrams."

Good Cop, Bad Cop

Call them Juicers in Blue. With their rippling physiques and flair for battling bad guys, they call to mind a flesh-and-blood Justice League—or at least a casting call for a Van Damme movie. And these three men are hardly isolated examples. Cops have long been a hush-hush subset of anabolic steroid users, says Pennsylvania State University sports-science professor Charles Yesalis, Sc.D., author of The Steroids Game. "Most of the police officers I've known who have used these drugs consider them a tool of the trade."

The phenomenon cuts across the country: In recent years, cops in nine states have been accused of steroid-related crimes. Like the four Norman, Oklahoma, police officers whose steroid use was uncovered during a Drug Enforcement Administration investigation last fall, and who were fired. Or the Tampa, Florida, cop who gave a drug dealer a thousand Ecstasy tablets from a police-impounded car in exchange for steroids and was sentenced to 2 years in 2003. Or the Pennsylvania officer who in 2002 pleaded guilty to steroid possession—and to selling 'roids to two other cops.

Such incidents are sufficiently widespread that the DEA has published a pamphlet called Steroid Abuse by Law Enforcement Personnel, whose cover depicts two uniformed officers surrounded by floating syringes. Still, because juicing cops are a secretive subculture within a secretive subculture, experts have a hard time quantifying the problem. "Resoundingly, yes, I've heard many, many accounts of police officers taking steroids," says Harvard steroid specialist Harrison Pope, M.D., author of The Adonis Complex. "But it's impossible to put a number on it. Even if I got a federal grant to study this, I wouldn't be able to get that number, because of the veil of secrecy." Officer Jimmy, however, is less constrained. "Steroid use is very pervasive in law enforcement," insists the 26-year-old cop. "I'd say, of the cops I know, 20 percent to 25 percent of them are using."

Whatever the true tally, it raises the question of what this means for the average, mostly law-abiding civilian. The next time you're pulled over, will you be hassled by an officer raring for a fight? If a cop loses control in a fit of 'roid rage, will your township get slammed with a brutality lawsuit? And, experts speculate, do steroids render cops less effective at their jobs, making you less safe?

"It hasn't been studied enough, and we need to know more," says Larry Gaines, Ph.D., chairman of the criminal-justice department at California State University at San Bernardino and the author of one of the very few research papers about cops on steroids. "We don't have a sense of the scope of the problem. And it is a potential problem, because of the potential for violence."

Officer Jimmy sees the matter differently. Although he professes to feel conflicted about juicing—it is, after all, a felony to take anabolic steroids without a prescription—he thinks 'roids made him a better cop. "What law enforcement needs is a little testosterone," he says. "Every cop should do a cycle a year."

just goes to show you, police officers have become their own class of society and they cna get away with just about anything.

uncle phil · 12-13-2005, 04:59 PM

and your feelings about that? comments? concerns?

alpha phi · 12-13-2005, 06:03 PM

More....Do what we say,
and not what we do.
just what we need
A bunch more people
ramped up on drugs

with guns and badges no less

Psycho Dad · 12-13-2005, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by alpha phi

A bunch more people
ramped up on drugs

with guns and badges no less

Perhaps all the 10 year olds getting tasered are due to 'roid rage.

I don't really see it so much as them getting away with something that we can't. Some of them are apparently getting caught. However it is a case of some of them thinking they should get away with something we shouldn't.

ziadel · 12-13-2005, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by uncle phil

and your feelings about that? comments? concerns?

I dont think its any secret just how I feel about the police, so I'll abstain from making my particular feelings known right now.

Siege · 12-13-2005, 08:07 PM

I've never taken steroids myself, so i'd be very interested to hear from someone who has.

Do they really boost performance as much as the media has made it seem?

stevie667 · 12-14-2005, 04:28 AM

Police officers juice? Shock Horror!

My first reaction was 'duh', to be completly honest.

Steroids do increase performance as much as the media says, but all this 'liver/brain/heart/kidney damage' and 'roid rage' is pretty much absoloute bollocks.

Unfortunatly, because steroids are so effective, the idiot brigade does them, and fucks up because they don't know how to use them effectivly and safely. Thats where the media gets in a frenzy, because little bobby the idiot took steroids to qualify for his football team at 16 because he was only a little skinny git before hand, and wanted to get 'big'.

Not that i have a thing against the idiot brigade...

ziadel · 12-14-2005, 08:21 PM

if thats the case then they should lobby legislators to have them made legal, or mebbe they can get some more unconstitutional laws written up saying its just ok for them, like they have with firearms

for some reason a lot of people, ESPECIALLY cops IMO forget that the law limits the enforcers of the law just as much as its subjects, or at least it is supposed to. The issue here being more that cops are forgetting that just because they enforce the law does not mean they are not subject to it.

cheese · 12-15-2005, 02:14 AM

stevie accualy has a point. I have talked to few people who have had experience with steriods.

Properly use you do cycles. you cycle in and out of em. start slow build up then taper off and dont do them for a couple of months. what happens is you get big fast. but you lose it again. but say in your cycle you gain 5 pounds of muscle, then you cycle out and lose 3 of it. you still gained 2 pounds of muscle. a significant amount.

what gets alot of people and messes them up is this sentence "I can get bigger" and they dont cycle out. they just keep goin and goin. then eventually they get to the poaint where they are throwing rail road ties threw there girlfreinds car cuz she said his balls shrunk .

as far as cops doin riods? i think it shoudl be standard issue. preformance enhancing drugs for those who can accualy use them. who cares if a foot bal player can run a 4.4 40yrd, but it woudl be nice to have a cop who can out run some guy high on mescaline.

12-13-2005, 04:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
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12-13-2005, 06:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
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12-13-2005, 08:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
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12-14-2005, 04:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
stevie667 Too Awesome for Aardvarks Location: Angloland	Police officers juice? Shock Horror! My first reaction was 'duh', to be completly honest. Steroids do increase performance as much as the media says, but all this 'liver/brain/heart/kidney damage' and 'roid rage' is pretty much absoloute bollocks. Unfortunatly, because steroids are so effective, the idiot brigade does them, and fucks up because they don't know how to use them effectivly and safely. Thats where the media gets in a frenzy, because little bobby the idiot took steroids to qualify for his football team at 16 because he was only a little skinny git before hand, and wanted to get 'big'. Not that i have a thing against the idiot brigade... __________________ Office hours have changed. Please call during office hours for more information.

12-14-2005, 08:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
ziadel Myrmidon Location: In the twilight and mist.	if thats the case then they should lobby legislators to have them made legal, or mebbe they can get some more unconstitutional laws written up saying its just ok for them, like they have with firearms for some reason a lot of people, ESPECIALLY cops IMO forget that the law limits the enforcers of the law just as much as its subjects, or at least it is supposed to. The issue here being more that cops are forgetting that just because they enforce the law does not mean they are not subject to it. __________________ Ron Paul '08 Vote for Freedom Go ahead and google Dr. Ron Paul. You'll like what you read.

12-15-2005, 02:14 AM	#9 (permalink)
cheese Psycho Location: In your bath tub with all your other rubber toys	stevie accualy has a point. I have talked to few people who have had experience with steriods. Properly use you do cycles. you cycle in and out of em. start slow build up then taper off and dont do them for a couple of months. what happens is you get big fast. but you lose it again. but say in your cycle you gain 5 pounds of muscle, then you cycle out and lose 3 of it. you still gained 2 pounds of muscle. a significant amount. what gets alot of people and messes them up is this sentence "I can get bigger" and they dont cycle out. they just keep goin and goin. then eventually they get to the poaint where they are throwing rail road ties threw there girlfreinds car cuz she said his balls shrunk . as far as cops doin riods? i think it shoudl be standard issue. preformance enhancing drugs for those who can accualy use them. who cares if a foot bal player can run a 4.4 40yrd, but it woudl be nice to have a cop who can out run some guy high on mescaline.