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Old 12-14-2005, 05:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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It's Now Illegal to Die

Die at your own risk, mayor proposes
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BIRITIBA MIRIM, Brazil (AP) -- There's no more room to bury the dead, they can't be cremated and laws forbid a new cemetery. So the mayor of this Brazilian farm town has proposed a solution: outlaw death.

Mayor Roberto Pereira da Silva's proposal to the Town Council asks residents to "take good care of your health in order not to die" and warns that "infractors will be held responsible for their acts."

The bill, which sets no penalty for passing away, is meant to protest a federal law that has barred a new or expanded cemetery in Biritiba Mirim, a town of 28,000 people 45 miles east of Sao Paulo.

"Of course the bill is laughable, unconstitutional, and will never be approved," said Gilson Soares de Campos, an aide to the mayor. "But can you think of a better marketing strategy?"

A 2003 decree by Brazil's National Environment Council bars new or expanded cemeteries in so-called permanent preservation areas or in areas with high water tables. Environmental protection measures rule out cremation.

That left no option for Biritiba Mirim, a town on the so-called "green belt" of rich farmland that supplies fruits and vegetables for Sao Paulo, Brazil's biggest city. The town produces 90 percent of the watercress consumed in Brazil.

Most of Biritiba Mirim sits above the underground water source for about 2 million people in Sao Paulo, de Campos said. The rest is covered by protected forest.

More than 50,000 people already are buried in the 3,500 crypts and tombs in Biritiba Mirim's municipal cemetery, which was inaugurated in 1910.

The cemetery ran out of space last month, and 20 residents who have died since November were forced to share a crypt. But even that solution has limits.

"We have even buried people under the walkways," de Campos said, predicting that crypts will reach capacity in six months. "Look, people are going to die. A solution has to be found, or we'll have to break the law."

At least 20 towns within 60 miles of Biritiba Mirim have a similar dilemma, de Campos said, though none has ordered its citizens not to die.

Biritiba Marim isn't the first Brazilian town to draw attention with an unusual law. A few years ago, a mayor in Parana state banned the sale of condoms, arguing that his town needed to increase its population to keep qualifying for federal aid. Drugstores ignored the ban.

De Campos said his town wants the Environment Council to change the wording of the cemetery decree to allow exceptions approved by environmentalists.

Biritiba Mirim has set aside public land -- five times the size of the current graveyard -- for a cemetery that environmental experts from the University of Sao Paulo say "will not affect the region's water tables or surrounding environment," de Campos said.

The Environment Council declined to comment before a meeting to discuss the matter with local officials Thursday.

Meanwhile, town officials say they are hoping no one else dies.
Well Ok then...
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I guess that means by the end of the century, almost everybody that lived and died in Brazil was a criminal eh?

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I can see the beginning of the first trial

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Old 12-14-2005, 07:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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now that's just plain silly.

almost like giving the death penalty to someone who tried to commit suicide.
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:41 AM   #4 (permalink)
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"Of course the bill is laughable, unconstitutional, and will never be approved," said Gilson Soares de Campos, an aide to the mayor. "But can you think of a better marketing strategy?"
Because some are bound to miss this bit.
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Because some are bound to miss this bit.
Yeah I saw that but that took a l ot of the fun out of it.. .
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I read about this earlier in the Chicago Tribune. I just wonder how exactly "infractors will be held responsible for their acts?" Will they receive full Mussolini treatment? Families taxed? Or maybe, they'll get wired up like Schiavo. Whatever it is, I know I would vote for this guy in an instant.
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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The Crypt Sharing idea is kind of cozy. Nobody sleeps alone.

Ustwo, you beat me to the ground Chuck solution.
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Old 12-14-2005, 08:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Necessity is the mother of invention. Make death illegal, and medical researchers will have to find a way to make us immortal, or be lynched, then prosecuted, if they don't
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Old 12-14-2005, 10:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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how is cremation an environmental concern? unless the whole country is cruising around on horses, I really think we're looking at a drop in the bucket here...
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