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sadistikdreams · 11-05-2005, 04:16 PM

Happy Guy Fawkes Day!

Heres some history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night

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KellyC · 11-05-2005, 05:21 PM

Let's see if I can quote this...

Quote:

Guy Fawkes Night, also known as Bonfire Night and Fireworks Night, is an annual celebration (but not a public holiday) on the evening of the 5th of November in the United Kingdom, New Zealand, South Africa, the province of Newfoundland (Canada), some parts of the USA, and formerly Australia. It celebrates the failure of the Gunpowder Plot, in which a group of Catholic conspirators attempted to blow up the Houses of Parliament in London on the night when Protestant King James I (James VI of Scotland) was within its walls — the evening of 5 November 1605. Some believe the proximity of the event to the pre-Christian festival of Samhain Eve and Halloween are notable, but it is generally agreed that this is a coincidence.

The celebrations, which takes place in towns and villages across the country, involve fireworks displays and the building of a bonfire, upon which is burnt an effigy representing the most famous of the conspirators, Guy Fawkes. Children build popular or humorous dummies and beg for money with the chant "penny for the guy" (the latter tradition is no longer as popular as it once was). The night is closely associated with the popular rhyme which begins:

Remember, remember the fifth of November,
Gunpowder, treason and plot,
I see no reason why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot.
(For the full text of the rhyme, see the article on the Gunpowder Plot).

In the United Kingdom, there are several other traditions that accompany Guy Fawkes/Bonfire night; The eating of bonfire toffee; a dark type of toffee made with black treacle; Parkin, a cake made with the same black treacle; toffee apples, the traditional 'apple lollipop', which consists of an apple coated in toffee on top of a stick; and baked potatoes which are traditionally wrapped in foil and cooked in the bonfire.

In recent years it has also become the primary night for fireworks displays in the UK, ranging from the amateur to the spectacular. It is only relatively recently (post-millennium) that fireworks have begun to see widespread use outside of Bonfire night, though they have always been available for the couple of months surrounding the 5th.

Despite the nature of the events commemorated, little political or sectarian significance is attached to Bonfire Night in modern times. The later verses of Remember, remember…, which express violent anti-Catholic sentiment, are not widely recalled. Bonfire night is now just as celebrated within the United Kingdom's Catholic communities. The once common practice of burning effigies of the Pope is now largely discontinued (except at Lewes, where the night has additional significance).

Edit: Yes, I can.

..and I learned something new today. Thanks!

highthief · 11-05-2005, 06:02 PM

we saw a reenactment of this at the Tower of London in September. Quite gruesome what they did to the conspirators!

RogueHunter65 · 11-05-2005, 08:55 PM

Guy Fawkes is awesome.

I think it is funny that you quoted wikipedia because I was the one that made about 20% of the post on that site. Including the rhyme:

Remember, remember the fifth of November,
Gunpowder, treason and plot,
I see no reason why gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot.

Yeah, wikipedia is great.

Pip · 11-06-2005, 05:01 AM

Hey, it was the 400:th anniversary this year! Did they do anything special to celebrate?

superiorrain · 11-06-2005, 07:32 AM

Well i had fun, when i say fun, i enjoyed the fireworks on the way back home from the pub. Makes the walk a little more interesting.

Arc101 · 11-06-2005, 08:44 AM

Always a good night, and a good excuse for a loud party. As for what Guy Fawkes tried another saying comes to mind - if first you don't succeed try, try, try again - we have far too many bloody politicians at the moment...

Anxst · 11-06-2005, 05:35 PM

I always felt sorry for Fawkes and the other conspirators, and wonder what the world would be like now if they had succeeded.

Well, at least now it's cause for a celebration of some kind. You'd never see me throwing a stuffed man on the bonfire, though.

Edit: Possessives and plurals got me again.

Slyboots · 11-06-2005, 06:20 PM

I always wondered why Guy Fawks was so important. I don't think we celebrate it in America do we? I mean I know they do in Canada but I have not heard anything about it on the news.

Anxst · 11-06-2005, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slyboots

I always wondered why Guy Fawks was so important. I don't think we celebrate it in America do we? I mean I know they do in Canada but I have not heard anything about it on the news.

Guy Fawkes and his co conspirators tried to off the king and his parliament and take over, as at the time being Catholic was basically illegal. Since they were Catholic, that didn't go over with the conspirators too well.

Since they were in charge, Parliament made the day they were caught and the plot stopped a holiday. These days, it doesn't really have any religious signifigance, it's just a holiday with a bonfire and fireworks. They stopped burning effigies of the pope a long time ago.

And no, it's not celebrated in the US.

For more detailed info, check the Wiki.

stevie667 · 11-07-2005, 09:12 AM

'hello there, what are all these barrels then?'
"um..."
'right, well you come with my collegue holding the large pointed stick, and lets see whats in them'
"i'd rather you didn't"
'why not?'
"um...run away!"

lol

My fireworks night was great fun, we had a ridiculously large fire, and plenty of stupidly fun fireworks. Nothing like setting off 7 rockets at the same time to show the neighbours whos boss!

11-05-2005, 04:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
sadistikdreams lonely rolling star Location: Seattle.	Remember, remember, the 5th of November. Happy Guy Fawkes Day! Heres some history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night (too long to quote) __________________ "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." -Lin Yutang hearts, by d.a.

11-05-2005, 06:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
highthief Junkie Location: Ontario, Canada	we saw a reenactment of this at the Tower of London in September. Quite gruesome what they did to the conspirators! __________________ Si vis pacem parabellum.

11-05-2005, 08:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
RogueHunter65 Insane Location: Boston, MA	Guy Fawkes is awesome. I think it is funny that you quoted wikipedia because I was the one that made about 20% of the post on that site. Including the rhyme: Remember, remember the fifth of November, Gunpowder, treason and plot, I see no reason why gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot. Yeah, wikipedia is great. __________________ I suffer from amnesia and deja vu at the same time... I think I have forgotten this before

11-06-2005, 07:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
superiorrain Psycho Location: London	Well i had fun, when i say fun, i enjoyed the fireworks on the way back home from the pub. Makes the walk a little more interesting. __________________ "The only way to discover the limits of the possible is to go beyond them into the impossible." - Arthur C. Clarke

11-06-2005, 05:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
Anxst Condensing fact from the vapor of nuance. Location: Madison, WI	I always felt sorry for Fawkes and the other conspirators, and wonder what the world would be like now if they had succeeded. Well, at least now it's cause for a celebration of some kind. You'd never see me throwing a stuffed man on the bonfire, though. Edit: Possessives and plurals got me again. __________________ Don't mind me. I'm just releasing the insanity pressure from my headvalves.

11-06-2005, 05:01 AM	#5 (permalink)
Pip Likes Hats Location: Stockholm, Sweden	Hey, it was the 400:th anniversary this year! Did they do anything special to celebrate?

11-06-2005, 08:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
Arc101 Addict Location: Nottingham, England	Always a good night, and a good excuse for a loud party. As for what Guy Fawkes tried another saying comes to mind - if first you don't succeed try, try, try again - we have far too many bloody politicians at the moment...

11-06-2005, 06:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
Slyboots Tilted Location: Newbury Park, California	I always wondered why Guy Fawks was so important. I don't think we celebrate it in America do we? I mean I know they do in Canada but I have not heard anything about it on the news. __________________ "Ah, yes, divorce......., from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man's genitals through his wallet." -- Robin Williams

11-07-2005, 09:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
stevie667 Too Awesome for Aardvarks Location: Angloland	'hello there, what are all these barrels then?' "um..." 'right, well you come with my collegue holding the large pointed stick, and lets see whats in them' "i'd rather you didn't" 'why not?' "um...run away!" lol My fireworks night was great fun, we had a ridiculously large fire, and plenty of stupidly fun fireworks. Nothing like setting off 7 rockets at the same time to show the neighbours whos boss! __________________ Office hours have changed. Please call during office hours for more information.